2023 TTC 35+ Part 6

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New thread as the other one ran out of space

@H0pefull I take Pregnacare Conception and make my husband take the men’s version too X

@H0pefull Proceive gets good reviews here. Didn’t agree with me but my husband takes them (including the leftover womens ones 😬). I take vits individually - P5P complex (b6, zinc and magnesium), spatone and iron bisglycinate,l (as deficient), vitamin c, folic acid, vitamin D on a dropper, fish oil and CoQ10. Would be much more convenient in a whole supplement but I can’t find quite what I’m after.

@FigandHoney that Ava bracelet must have a fault… those temps are too low surely? Hoping you did ovulate as all the other signs point that way. You will know when (if!) your period arrives when expected following usual luteal phase length.

I went for a day 21 blood test yesterday at 7dpo and saw results in my NHS app same day (impressive). It’s come back as ‘borderline’ for ovulation at 28.4 nmol/l and I’m advised to contact the GP. Has anyone else had this and can advise? I know I ovulated based on temps, RHR, symptoms etc so this is a ‘best case’ result for me. I know it’s under the NHS threshold of >30 and it starts with the egg >32.
Tbh I’m pleasantly surprised as was expecting much lower given my irregular periods and mid cycle spotting that I sometimes have. I have done loads in terms of lifestyle, diet etc. Perhaps given myself a false sense of security?
I guess the result means it’s very unlikely I have conceived this cycle as it would be higher if pregnant - though not really sure on that one.

@H0pefull I take proceive as I saw and heard from others I know great reviews.

@H0pefull@Mrsspoon3 thanks for replies, yesterday was a shocking day for me. Ended up with a bad migraine that has carried on into today so had little sleep as well.

I took a boots early test today and again its a really faint line (not very visible on camera). DP thinks its a more obvious line than Mondays test but I'm not sure. Decided not to use my last FRER at the moment. Its so frustrating that I've had this with 2 brands now though.. Its either a bad indent or a chemical or maybe just not a great test? (The reviews online for the boots 5 day early ones suggest theyve given people false negatives when taken early). This combined with my had nausea and headache just has me so down. Forgot to share pic so I will on next one. Based on ovulation tests I think I'm 14dpo, but I'm conscious that with only one period since my MMC my hormones may not have been most reliable for testing ovulation as well.

@H0pefull I'm taking proceive max, which comes in a sachet form. They are really expensive but it's always on 3 for 2 at boots or H&B

@CurlyWurly1991 I have borderline progesterone. The consultant is going to put me on letrazole. I was surprised by my results as my periods are regular but I had them done twice and both times came back as borderline

This is the boots test - anyone used these before?

Sorry! Meant to tag @FigandHoney

Thanks for all your replies ladies, i will get onto ordering some today :)

@Khanga27 to me that looks like a line if I'm honest, i know everybody has different experiences with different tests, but for me, I have found the Boots ones really reliable in the past. It looks like it could be it for you!

@CurlyWurly1991 how great that you could see your results the same day! I will be going for my day 21 blood test around 15th, so this is good to know! Sorry you have had some confusing results though, will you contact your GP to discuss? Hopefully they can shed a bit more light x

I can see a faint line!

@Sp2025 @H0pefull I hope so, but I don't know if I am trusting just yet. Its so faint for where I thought I was in cycle, but don't know how reliable ovulation tests would have been with only one period since the MMC which took over a month to resolve. Just not sure what to think. I just hope it's not a chemical or something.

@Khanga27 these boots tests are really good and only slightly less sensitive than frer. If the line is pink then it is picking up HCG so I would count as positive. Not everyone gets string lines on/just before AF is due, I had a faintervlind than this at 18dpo with my daughter. Some people just have lower baseline HCG (there is a spectrum of ‘normal’ like many things in life). Hopefully AF will not show and this is your BFP 🤞

@Sp2025 oh that’s good to know, thanks. What does letrozole do? (Sorry I’m at an early stage of all this). Do you know what your result was in nmol/l?

@H0pefull Thank you. Hope you get the results you want on your day 21 x

I will probably make an appointment with the GP who will order a repeat day 21. I am not overly concerned as the info I have read states over 18 confirms ovulation, some NHS trusts stick with over 30. I mean I’m sure it could be optimised but I am a little bit wary of medical intervention overall. It’s like adding one synthetic hormone disrupts the balance of the whole system. On the other hand I know progesterone is quite safe to self-supplement. I have to think about it a bit more than most because I have a liver condition so introducing new medication/supplements can cause a host of other unpleasant symptoms as my body doesn’t break them down very well.

I can't remember exact numbers but it was in the 20s. Letrezole induces ovulation, think it lowers oestrogen and increases progesterone. The other drug commonly used to induce ovulation is clomid. There have been many success stories on MN from the use of clomid/letrozole so 🤞

@Khanga27 I can definitely see a line. When I was pregnant with my son I got a BFN on the day my af was due. Didn't test until AF was late for 4 days and then got a faint BFP. So I agree with @CurlyWurly1991 statement that not all women have the same level of HCG from the start. Unfortunately you will just need to give it a bit more time. But hopefully this is your sticky bean!

@H0pefull I am also taking Peoceive Max because it contains Coq10. However after looking into the levels of supplements suggested by it starts with an egg and following discussions on here, I have added B12, B6, Vitamin D and some Follic Acid - as Proceive was a bit low on them.
Then again I might not have ovulated this cycle. And I am wondering if it's the supplements. So might stop the additional ones when AF arrives.

My GP got my blood test results back and told me they were normal. But they couldn't do tge Vitamin D check because the sample was Haemolysed. I tried to see my results on the NHS App but can't find anything. Am I right in thinking it should be under GP Records > test results?

My bbt went up a bit today but definitely not enough to suggest ovulation. I looked in the Ava facebook group. And others have said it has sometimes taken a while for the rise to show after the LH surge. They said you can ovulate up yo 36 hours after it. And then it can take 3 days for the rise to show. It's now been 5 days since my first positive opk. Since then my opks have been very negative.
I am trying not to get upset but it's difficult.

Not a great update I'm afraid - had some creamy discharge with a little pink in which I'm guessing could be the start of my period (dont normally start like this, but like i say my body has probably changed since mmc), so looks like I'm out for this month. It's either been a chemical or a really bad indent on the tests.

ah so sorry @Khanga27 , hope you are feeling ok xxx

B6 and zinc help with cycles and progesterone
All your photos of ovulation sticks were pretty positive - many believe the ones you shared showed ovulation

@FigandHoney Am I right in thinking it should be under GP Records > test results?

Yep

Newbie here, checking in! Currently taking the prenatal vitamins before we start TTC for the first time at beginning of next year. I am 35 and fiancé is 42. I guess just getting into mindset to the journey :)

Full of cold here - expecting period in few days then guna try again

No ct scan result yet
No next colonoscopy next invite either but qfit test back to normal since polyps removal

I recommend getting your feretin - vit D and b12 checked in advance

My vit d was just 33 in March

Feretin just 8 in april

Fixed both before trying to concieve

Concieved 2nd cycle trying
But early miscarriage

Will try again

Welcome

@H0pefull just quite low to be honest and also confused. My period had never started like this before, normally its just proper blood, rather than this creamy discharge with slight tinge which I've never had before. I'm just going to keep an eye and see what happens. Doesn't help that I still have this bad sickness and headaches going on

Thanks! Had an appointment with the obgyn, blood test done, all good. Check all good besides a tiny fibroid that might not be in the best place and will be checked, but as we will not try until January, we will see with doctors. The prenatal are prescribed by the doctor (box says for TTC and first trimestre), from P&G.

I also took a pic as had a brief though it was implantation bleeding (even though i have no idea what that would look like as i didnt get it last time) but decided not to share as I just don't want to give myself false hope 😪

A slight word of caution on supplements. When I first started TTC, I was keen to try all the supplements I could find. One month I started taking CoQ10 and Boots preconception vitamins. I then had a very strange 18 day cycle. I spoke to my excellent GP who said the preconception vitamins were likely ok but CoQ10 was outside of her experience. I stopped taking both as I at least wanted to give myself chance to ovulate each month. My periods went back to normal after this and I got a BFP last month. I think if you're worried about supplements, it's useful to get some baseline checks via your GP, namely ferritin, full blood count, vitamin d, folate and vitamin B12 and start supplements if required. If your BMI is >30, 5mg folic is recommended and should be started in the TTC phase via a prescription. Otherwise you can buy 400microgram folic acid tablets inexpensively. Vitamin d by itself also did not impact my periods and I think is recommended October to March in the UK anyway. Hope this is helpful. Xxx

Agree @Angelsrose I had a disrupted cycle when starting preconception vitamins. They change the whole balance of the body so it is best to focus on what is needed.