To bake or not to bake, that is the question...

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Her we are ladies!

course you dont Nat, you have owned for several years and I am sure as house prices have gone up hugely you now have a substantial amount of exquity (correct me if I am wrong and I will take it back). If you had never owned you wouldn't have that! The rest of us without that money find the first step very hard, if you get out now and rent you will have money sat in the bank for when you want to buy again, we wont!! And, there are advantages of owning besides a great financial investment, you can do what you want to the property, no one is going to chuck you out with 1/2 months notice etc. Not that I am saying renting doesn't have its pluses, it does, if you find a good place and a good landlord, for instance if the boiler brakes down the landlords pays not you! We are finally lucky that we have a nice house we rent, in good decorative order, in a good location and a landlord that wants long term tenants and is happy for us to make any improvements we want. But that is rare. Still, we will have to buy at some point, you cant retire and still pay rent, no matter how could your pension is it won't cover rent as well!

course you dont Nat, you have owned for several years and I am sure as house prices have gone up hugely you now have a substantial amount of exquity (correct me if I am wrong and I will take it back). If you had never owned you wouldn't have that! The rest of us without that money find the first step very hard, if you get out now and rent you will have money sat in the bank for when you want to buy again, we wont!! And, there are advantages of owning besides a great financial investment, you can do what you want to the property, no one is going to chuck you out with 1/2 months notice etc. Not that I am saying renting doesn't have its pluses, it does, if you find a good place and a good landlord, for instance if the boiler brakes down the landlords pays not you! We are finally lucky that we have a nice house we rent, in good decorative order, in a good location and a landlord that wants long term tenants and is happy for us to make any improvements we want. But that is rare. Still, we will have to buy at some point, you cant retire and still pay rent, no matter how could your pension is it won't cover rent as well!

oops, posted twice

Anyhow, on a completely different subject, I do realise I am not pg yet, but.. is anyone considering a home birth?

No Playing I was told I should as they said I had a quick labour which I dont understand went into labour at 4pm monday afternoon had ds at 12:15 the following day so only 20 hours!!!
I just couldnt do it think of your neighbours!!

Yay Geordie another deranged person like me who is considering/decided on home birth for dc1. By the way I didn't mean to make it sound like 30 was old, just that if I can I would rather do it younger, I'm sure you know what I mean!

Kay, how can 20 hours be too quick to have a home birth . Thats sounds like bollocks to me. Who cares about the neighbours, its my house .

Playing I am well aware of the differences in buying and renting, having done both, I actually meant that whilst everyone is doing everything and anything they can to get on the property ladder, how strange it is that we are doing everything we can to get off it. We must be the only idiots people who is desparate to sell up, at least for the time being!

GJ at your friend, can she seek legal help, they really aren't allowed to do that!

I went for a home birth with DS2 (have I said all this already?) not doing it this time, but since DS1's labour was 12 hours including 15 moniute of pushing, and DS2's was 2 hours with 4 minutes of pushing, I think I may end up with one!

good evening ladies hope you all had a fantastic night last night i am sure you did, (i will check the messages later when not so busy).

is are even, I get worse and worse... I am going to stop correcting myself one day and you will all have to work it out for selves!

PLaying, I'm contemplating a home birth for no.4, but can't say i'm a natural candidate on paper! With 2 out of 3 dds I had an epidural (low pain threshold I'm sure!)and just seem to panic when I'm in labour (plus have had 2 back to back births)and not sure I could handle just ghas and air (I think you can get pethidine prescribed in some areas, but have never got along with itn personally!). Will be something to ponder over the coming months anyway (and at least it guarantees you a midwife's attention!).

oo, Natalie can I ask why your not going for one again? Looking for as many different for and against views as I can find. Oh and re the house thing I didnt mean to suggets that you didnt know, if my post sounded a bit rude (which I think it may have) I didnt mean that, I was on the phone at the same time trying to describe to a customer how to set up a weather station so was only half concentrating!!

I dont know if they meant established labour. If I lived in the middle of nowhere without neighbours I'd consider it.

NJ my friend gave birth to her 3rd in a layby!!
Due too maternity ward closures

Re the age I am 34 (shhhh dont tell anyone).. I met my dp when i was 28 after finally breaking free from a violent relationship.

We saved for 4 years to put down a deposit and finally bought our home 3 years ago. Then we started saving to get married but things changed when i found out i was pg in 2006. DD was born last March.

The only down side of me meeting dp and having children later in life is that we will never have a big family as i am to old.

Every time I seem to find a reason not to home birth I come up with a solution!! And yes, besides the fact that I know I would be calmer in my own home, the midwife to myself and guarentee use of a birth pool (if I hire one) really appeals.

Totally off subject here
IM SO EXCITED!!!

I bought a PEZ today!!
Hopefully someone will remember them

Hey LL, u are not too old. I really didn't mean 30's is too old (beginning to regret bringing up anythign about age) just that yes, I want at least 3 kids and am paranoid delaying it would make it impossible, plus not sure I have the will power to wait too long, been waiting years already!

Playing if i had met dp earlyer no way i would of waited so totally agree with what you are saying.

I always wanted 4 children but chances are i will have to stop at 2 but never mind at least i am lucky to have had any.

I think I have the worst willpower of everyone on here put together. Dh and I agreed to talk about ttc #2 when ds was 2, he isn't even 1 yet!!
How I gave up smoking I'll never know

Terrible spelling so sorry. Of cause I meant earlier.

Kay! I rememeber Pez's! (first time and second time around). First time round Mickeys and disney characters, second time with dds in Topshop, where they spotted Bratz ones at check-out - v.bizarre! In fact 'You Pez-head' was a popular insult at school .

Glad I'm not the only only wanting 4! Don't worry too much about fitting them ion - I started at 31 and have done 3, so hopefully will fit another in before I'm 39!

God you lot makie me worse!!!!i cant stay away!!

Im like a blardy kid at chrimbo atm, im so exciteable...

Property wise we are sticking in rented for DC1,then when im back at wrk part-time and DP had a payrse we will hve a better idea of what we can afford and go from there

in terms of age im 20, 21 on the 25th of this month so will prob still be 21-22 when i have LO...

I am aiming for at least two and DP agrees and maybe a third... We have picked names already..

does that answer everything?? i cant keep up lol