What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

[Hyppyb]

Hey,

It's my second cycle if ivf, I'm on Bemfola 225 iu and it's day 4 of my cycle. Last time I was on Gonal F 150iu. Was wondering if it will produce more eggs now.

Just wanted to ask anyones dosage, the name of their ivf medication and the egg result, home many were retrieved?

@Hyppyb on both my failed transfers I started bleeding by 7 days after transfer even thought I was still taking meds on both. It wasnt period blood I wouldn’t say but it wasn’t good blood either if that makes sense.
I definately agree you need to attend EPU for piece of mind, if no further information can be given then so be it but you tried for answers.
As you say grades can improve in the womb so there’s every chance your slow 6 day will work, don’t forget it’s still an ever age grade.
Days 2 and 3 I had a few short like stabbing pains in my lower left side which could be the medication I’ve read. Even though I’ve not had these pains since starting the meds I suppose you just never know. I’m 100% sure I didn’t get these on the last 2 transfers, as for the first positive I honestly can’t remember.

@SH998 yeah you said you bleed between periods but don't know what causes. Maybe there's a condition where you womb lining bleeds. I have issues with heavy bleeding because of fibroids.

Stabbing pains this early is definitely a good sign. Possible sign of implantation. My failed FET it was more like twinges and aches in my hips not my stabbing in my womb that only ever happened my first pregnancy.So your 4dpt....can't believe your clinic wants you to wait another 10 days.

The light ache in my side reminded me of how traumatic my ectopic was and how the thought of another scares me. I'm definitely going to bring it up pre transfers now to ensure they very aware to release the embryo lower down if possible.

I'm not scared to have another egg collection. It's like what else can you do if you need another? It's annoying and maybe frustrating but it's the only way. I was thinking about changing clinics but I don't think there's much point. The main clinic I had bad results their sister cheaper clinic I got better results, but as I'm over 39 and I think they offer it once anyway I would have to go back to the main clinic but would insist on the cheaper clinics meds etc. Then got to worry if they will access one or two ovaries because of my fibroid.

Will try not to stress as its pointless. Doesn't help anyone. I've felt a few stabbing feeling but not period yet. I think Wednesday it will happen as it takes 5 days when I stop my meds to bleed.

@Hyppyb I'm really trying not to get my hopes up but its tough. The stabbing pain started about midday on day 2, only about 3/4 stabs so didn't think much of it, then happened again a few more times later that day. They were a little more regular yesterday (day 3) but far from regular or OTT and possibly not as strong. I've had nothing today so not sure what that means? Any idea? I feel completely normal today.
I'm going to do my best to hold out to day 7 (1 week after transfer), which ever way it goes I should have the answer then, I don't want to test sooner as I don't want to begin the heartache all over again sooner than I have too. I like living in my little 'pregnant' bubble :)
I'm frightened for another collection as once I'm at that stage ill be asking myself how much further do I take it as that would be my third collection and god knows how many transfers by then. As your situation is different to mine and you have no issues with getting pregnant its just a matter of 'when' for you. For me its a massive 'if' it happens, when do I call it a day and admit defeat, that's what frightens me as that day might very well come.
Your clinic seem to be working well for you, is there any point in changing and possibly stressing yourself out over it, there's probably not much a different clinic would change for you as you have managed to get pregnant on more than 1 occasion, that's half the battle.
Your period will come when it comes, if its anything like mine it will make you wait knowing your eager for it to show for a change lol

@SH998 2 to 4 days post transfer is when the baby implants hence implantation cramps. I understand not wanting to get your hopes up for sure.

I feel in the same boat as you as I have to decide when to stop as well. I was at a disadvantage as only half my eggs were collected my first transfer and that may happen again. Because of the fibroid in the way and if that doc on day of collection will attempt both ovaries it like my 2nd collection where I finally got 5 day blastocyst.

I get what you're saying for me it is down to the right embryo but also not getting into my tube again. For me it's not straightforward either.

It's not that I'm looking forward to my period it's that when it comes I will be miscarrying so of course a little apprehensive by it. I know it will be fine but it's still a miscarriage. I think it will come Wednesday as the meds will be out my system by then.

The EPU does deal with miscarriages so may give some tips

@Hyppyb a little disheartened today, haven't had anymore pains since afternoon of 3days post transfer, boobs felt heavy last night but completely fine today. I feel completely normal so I'm now taking that as a negative. I've held off testing, I was buckling a little this morning but was so upset just thinking of it I didn't do it. I couldn't deal with the upset before work.
How are you feeling? Have you started bleeding yet?

@SH998 my first pregnancy I had sharp stabbing pains in my womb I think 2dpt to 3 or 4dpt and then that was it no other signs. Its too early for you to have pregnancy symptoms only implantation cramps that are only a day or two. There is none or little hcg in your blood stream if you are pregnant to give off symptoms. So your expectations of constant symptoms i would ignore that. As I said before this pregnancy I had no symptoms until after I tested. I understand the panic but you really can't tell.

No bleeding as I said I think it will be Wednesday as in the past it's taken around 5 days for me to start bleeding post stopping my meds. Got my appointment at 4.20pm at the EPU.

It's hard all of this....

@Hyppyb thanks for the feedback, it does make me feel slightly better. I keep saying I didn't experience any implantation pains or symptoms on my first positive until after the test showed positive (approx. 7/8 days) but I keep ignoring this and my mental head is thinking I should now be having symptoms galore. I'm still holding off until 7 days before testing but am struggling with that now lol.
How are you managing with getting time off work? That could also add to the stress of it all if employers are not flexible. I've been lucky in that regard but I know some companies are not.
IVF is tough, all aspects of it, if you pass one hurdle there's always another waiting for you to overcome.
Keep me updated on your appointment talks please, I know you don't expect to get much from them but you never know :)

@SH998 every pregnancy will be different even with the same person. I get the wanting to see symptoms but that's not always the case even if it is could be meds / hormones. All you can do is test when you're ready. Got my fingers crossed for you. Even if it doesn't happen you have other embryos so still have options.

My company are full of gossips and drama queens. They're so unprofessional so if I shared it would be round the building and would love the entertained by the highs and lows whilst im suffering. My ectopic I did tell HR but that was only because we're friends outside of the company too. So my appointment I tell them it's for other things like dentist etc. My collections I book holiday off. Its hard as I have to book a month in advance and don't know when they are going to be.

My appointment went how I expected, they did the scan, couldn't see anything but did see fluid which could mean anything. They're putting it down as pregnancy in unknown location which just means they've not seen a pregnancy. Couldnt say what pain could be. Then saw nurse who remembered me through my 10 week stint of hcg blood tests for my ectopic. She was surprised how quickly I tried and wanted to know it all. I said hope to be back with a real pregnancy and she was like they're all real and good how quickly i got pregnant. She took blood as they can't take my word my hcg is negative. If its not that baileys I drank over the weekend wasn't a good idea🤣...she will call tomorrow.

So got follow up with clinic Thursday will just be same old but has to be done to proceed with FET. I feel like they just make me feel like I'm a failure and how there must be something wrong with me even tho 95% is down to the normality of the embryo. They don't care that ive had pregnancies.

I've spent so much money already I think that's the only reason I'm like do i go ahead with another egg collection. I was saying to a friend really every should try 12 times as that is the equivalent to the year docs say for trying to conceive as 92% will be successful. I've not tried 12 times yet.

So are you testing 7 days past. I've never waited that long. I couldnt. I feel it's not worth stressing that testing gives me some control and release.

I'm very private at work, i dont say im single or talking about relationships when ive been in them so at work i know theyve put me in a box that im single so if I do get to announce a pregnancy they will be so shocked! I don't plan on sharing details.

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@SH998 congratulations...very strong lines there.

What made you decide to test before 7dpt? I think you implanted pretty early to have lines that strong. The hatching embryo. I've never had lines that strong at 6dpt. What do you think worked for you this time?

@Hyppyb thank you, I couldn't hold off anymore last night, I kept googling symptoms and reading threads and it was upsetting me thinking of another negative so I went for it, the sooner I tested the sooner I could deal with the outcome. I'm sure in February I was testing from day 2 which seriously messed with my head when it stayed negative. I've compared this mornings to my day 7 last positive and it seems on par even though this is a day behind so maybe a little stronger. Still no other symptoms. Same as you were, I'm so cautious this time around as I know how easy and quickly things can change. I got carried away first time looking at baby clothes/furniture, ill be holding off until I'm sure all is OK this time. I'm hoping this will be my time at last :)
I completely understand what you mean about gossiping in the workplace, you get them everywhere and they thrive on others unhappiness. I keep my personal business to myself, no one here knows I'm going through IVF apart from my manager who has been amazing and HR as I had to complete a sick note last year for the miscarriage.
So your appointment went as planned, they didn't find anything untoward which is a good sign and as the nurse said you got pregnant again very quickly after the trauma of the ectopic so that's a good sign going forward.
Is your clinic not sympathetic towards your situation, surely that's unprofessional making you feel a failure. In fact its awful they make you feel that way. My clinic have been amazing each time, considering its NHS I haven't been able to fault them (well apart from the 8 weeks I waited for bloods lol). So your going to push for an August transfer, what's the likely date to be based on your period (when it finally arrives this month). Has it turned up yet?

@Hyppyb this grade embryo was the same as the one I miscarried, 5BB. Personally the only thing I done different this time than the others was take baby aspiring, go for a 20 minute walk and eat salted chips after the transfer all of which you advised :)
However, my meds have changed quite a bit, previous transfers I was on 2 x Progynova a day, 2 Cyclogest, this time I'm on 4 progynova, 2 Cyclogest and 1 lubion. I'm still adamant that there is a hormone issue somewhere hence the spotting, maybe I'm too low naturally on progesterone or something like that so cant maintain implantation/pregnancy. I've always said its a hormone issue, my progesterone has never been tested or has my estrogen as far as I'm aware.

@Hyppyb how dark were your lines on the ectopic as that seemed a strong pregnancy as it stayed with you for so long.

@SH998 no its good you tested early as I said before. Must feel weird being pregnant again. Must be thrilled. At least you've figured out what works for you. My first I took photos weekly, this time I didn't was more grounded and that helped.

Both pregnancies I had dark lines. What i meant was not at 6dpt ie yours implanted very early as it was hatching.

My clinic are great in that there's no judgement like the nhs. I went to a nhs doc just about my fibroids I mentioned why and I might as well have been a harlot of babylon the unnecessary comments like if your mum was alive she would have told you to have found a man sooner. Quite nasty. Not that i gave the reason i was single so concocting that on her own. I didny bite back as there was chance she was going to put a long metal object through my cervix for the hysteroscopy. All I meant is every failed attempt the clinic never praises that I got pregnant it's all OK there must be something wrong when as we all know it's usually 95% down to the quality of the embryo.

I started bleeding today exactly as I said i would. So far no pain. I've stopped asprin so I can take stronger pain relief If needed. Will go back on them after. I'm not in the office until Monday as I wfh so that's good.

I'm sure my tips only helped with relaxing you more but there is something in baby asprin.

Yeah so end of August will be my transfer hopefully. See what is said about my failed fet also.

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@Hyppyb todays progression line, day 7. Can’t help panicking. Been spotting the last 2/3 days. Literally only a tiny amount when I wipe maybe once/twice a day but still there this morning. No other symptoms whatsoever, boobs feel completely normal.

@Hyppyb im trying to be grounded this time but the panicking has set in already. I think the first time I was naive and completely stress free when I found out I was pregnant. Now I know the risks I’m on edge, it’s 4am and I’m up googling ffs!
Glad the bleeding has started, you really do know your own body. That’s your one step closer to the transfer process. Hope your not in too much pain and bleedings not too heavy, on the plus side your working from home so that’s a relief should there be any issues.
I actually can’t believe the nhs gp said that too you, absolutely disgusting. You’ve proven you don’t require a man in your life to make your dream become reality! Really does annoy me when throwaway comments like that are made, it’s already a sensitive subject so have dove compassion mun!
Your mum is cheering you on up there and telling everyone how proud she is of you :)
Your tips helped hugely, your very level headed and sensible (neither of which I am lol). You really have been a godsend with your advice and knowledge.

@SH998 The line today looks good. This early as long as the line is the same or darker its fine. Once you've had a loss its natural to be on egg shells. As you are aware you naturally bleed, spotting doesn't really mean much. I've watched so many YouTube videos where many successful pregnancies started off with spotting. Of course as you say anything can happen so you can only take it day by day but you got pregnant so that's amazing.

Symptoms this early isn't always a thing. The only thing you have to go by are the test strips and they're looking good. Hopefully they stay good. Will you ring your clinic 14 days post transfer? Will they arrange your scan? You said 8 weeks last time. I think the EPU would only see you for recurrent miscarriages and prior ectopic. Waiting to 8 weeks seems long. Most clinics its 6 weeks because of a chance its ectopic.

The bleeding has been OK. Yesterday it fell like a dull pain at one point but was OK. I'm on an ectopic forum, women were saying their current periods cause flashbacks of their ectopic experience and I've had that with a bad period. The pain and contracting. So was mindful now but I've been OK. My ectopic I took only one day off when I was in the hospital apart from that the wfh part time helped me hide it from the office.

Have follow up at 9am. Will see what she says first but I think as its my last embryo in the freezer I have to throw everything at it. So will ask about the lubion. I don't feel I have a progesterone problem as I was tested prior I also ovulated last cycle but I think it's important I do everything I can now. Lubion must be available online. Will see.

@Hyppyb thanks again for calming me this morning lol. I've had a little more spotting, more of an orangy colour maybe. I did see a you tube video this week on implantation and she said the spotting could come several days after the implantation pains and last a few days so I'm trying to remember that every time I go the toilet. Also, I didn't have symptoms on the first pregnancy this early so maybe I'm just a symptom free kind of gal lol. I have to keep remembering this and telling myself all people/pregnancies are different - when I lose my head all sense goes out the window.

I had my partner up with me at 3.45am to check the line and see if it was darker, fair play he was great as he knows I'm panicking. Also my 7 day test is far darker than my last positive, I would say my last positive 7 day test was maybe the same colour as this pregnancy's 5 day test so I'm hoping this means it will be a healthy pregnancy. Its all different this time around so I cant compare which is probably a good thing as the last one didn't work out so the difference may be a good sign.

They done my last scan at 8 weeks 1 day which I thought was late as I read its normally around 6 weeks. On the plus side now looking back I'm glad it was later as the baby stopped growing at 7 weeks 3 days so my 6 week scan might have shown all OK and I would not have known there was an issue possibly until my 12 week scan or I started to miscarry naturally.

I am meant to call them next Thursday with my results but I don't have enough meds so ill call them Tuesday and call down for more on Wednesday. They will probably arrange the scan then, I'm sure last time they told me if there's any pain or bleeding to contact them before the scan for advice.

Only 1 day off with an ectopic, my god your superhuman, that must of been hard. Keeping your wits about you when in work when your going through all that pain, bleeding and also the emotional upset of it all. Sometimes work can take your mind of personal issues. Glad to hear you haven't suffered to much with your bleed and haven't experienced any nasty flashbacks.

Good luck for your appointment, you never know some additional meds might give your body and little embryo that little extra boost needed. As you know, a C grade embryo can stick so don't lose hope yet. Keep me updated :)

@SH998 my appointment was at 9am, it’s 9.45am and no one’s called. So at 10am will call and be like hello. What I think will happen is I will have to go back to the main clinic not the current one as extra meds as part of FET isn’t with current clinic. So will need a second follow up but should be before my next period.

I’ve had clots this morning, so pregnancy is passing. Loads of blood. Will be nice when period is over. I read chemical pregnancies can last a week which is fine as it’s not 12 weeks like my ectopic was.

It sounds like you’re doing really well. As I said before if you feel stressed and have urges to test, you should do it! Repressing it I don’t think is healthy. Continue googling and researching, it’s a form of managing your stress.

Will let you know how I get on.

So just called, they said because I cancelled the 6 week scan they cancelled the follow up and ASSUMED I wouldn’t need it….but the whole point of the follow up is I cancelled the scan because I’m no longer pregnant and need a follow up to do a FET. That’s just really dumb they did that. Anyway follow up is now at 3pm.

@Hyppyb cancelling a scan does not mean you want the follow up cancelled, as you say the follow up is to discuss the next steps. You would need that more now than ever! Honestly don't understand how some people think. At least you have an appointment booked later, how quick were they fitting you in! Id have to wait weeks.
Good news on the bleeding, sooner its over the sooner your next one will be due. Would be great if you could start next month, us chicks ain't getting any younger lol :)
Keep me updated.

@SH998 yeah I think it could have been my patient co ordinator over thinking and making dumb assumptions.

Well whilst I'm in the middle of miscarrying my second child I rather try not to stress myself out by thinking about my age and that it could hinder myself having a child one day. So my thought pattern is very different to that.

Hope your lines continue to darken. Before you know it hopefully you'll be having your 8 week scan.