What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

[Hyppyb]

Hey,

It's my second cycle if ivf, I'm on Bemfola 225 iu and it's day 4 of my cycle. Last time I was on Gonal F 150iu. Was wondering if it will produce more eggs now.

Just wanted to ask anyones dosage, the name of their ivf medication and the egg result, home many were retrieved?

@SH998 Yeah, the photo the pregnancy test is very faint but there was definitely a visible line on your day 7. Was that time a frozen transfer or fresh? My pregnancy was a fresh so I had the trigger a few days before for egg collection.

Hopefully by tomorrow I should know. If its darker that would be the ideal scenario. If its lighter or gone then I still have to keep testing until my period is due I think Friday or Saturday. This has definitely been my most unsure pregnancy testing. Last time 4dpt looked negative on the day, 6dpt there was a line so I knew but 4dpt a few days later after it dried a line appeared. Could be the trigger or was the start of a positive.

If I am pregnant then I need to arrange an appointment with the EPU regarding possible ectopic reccurance. But it's like wait and chill until I know. I was only at the EPU in February.

Only 2 days until your scan....

@SH998 Update - I’m working from home and I’ve had all this wind all of a sudden in my stomach, it’s quite high up like under my ribs to the top of my stomach. When I move around in my chair I’m so uncomfortable. So could be the meds or could be pregnancy symptoms. Last pregnancy I was only on progesterone not eostrogen and at 5 weeks I had lot of bloating and wind. That was my only symptom. I think my pregnancy strip is lighter than 5DPT but same as 4DPT. The plastic there are definitely 2 lines, which means HCG still present if this was without the trigger I’d be thrilled on those results. Will test this evening and see.

@Hyppyb that photo was from a fresh cycle, I didn't even test out the trigger at the time. It was my transfer so was very niave and clueless to a lot of the processes ... I've wised up hugely since then lol.
They do also say that frozen take longer to implant so might see delayed HCG, how true this is I don't know as I've never tested positive from a frozen.
I'm sure wind is a pregnancy/implantation symptom or so I've read. Something different is a good sign. Its difficult to say whether its pregnancy related or the meds.
I'm feeling really positive about this :)

@SH998 so both me and you got pregnant on a fresh cycle.... I did start questioning if frozen FETs were as successful as fresh when i got pregnant with a fresh and not with a frozen, the research shows they are as good and frozen is better for people with conditions like OHSS and decreases chance of an ectopic. I did hear too frozen the embryo implants later sometimes. 6DPT I've got placenta cells begin to secrete hcg as embryo finished implantation by day 5 but early or late implanters will be different. My last was very early 2dpt to 3dpt I could feel it implanting.

I'm so skeptical about believing im pregnant. I'm just very jaded from last time also. Being told collapsing, bleeding out and dying could happen, living with that for 10 weeks, waking up in severe pain, with inadequate pain relief, not knowing if it had ruptured, like the pregnancy was actually deadly to my body. If I was younger I would have taken a break. Traumatising. But I jumped right back in to it because of my age.

If I am, I'm probably going to tell less people, last time I told 4 close people. I am single so i don't have a partner to bounce off. So I know I need to tell someone early on even if it ends badly again.

It is weird how dark the test line got yesterday compared to today or the day before. Hopefully it's not a chemical pregnancy. So hard to tell with the trigger.

Thanks 😊 imagine having xray vision like superman to be able to look in there 🤣

@Hyppyb Yes, my positive was my first embryo from a fresh cycle. My second was a FET which I knew by day 2 it had failed, was more confident with my third transfer which was a fresh but that failed too. I think i was a little cocky after the first positive, I thought it would happen again that easily, how wrong was I!As I've had both fresh and frozen fail I'm not confident with either now.
The do say it takes 2 days for HCG to increase so if your first implanted successfully at 2/3 days that would explain how you knew by 4/5 days. If this is a late implanter then your HCG levels might not be high enough to detect yet.
You have been through so much the last few months, I cant imagine how frightening it must have been especially to be dealing with most of it alone. Mind you, are men any use at things like that? My partner would probably have buckled at the first hurdle lol
I'm confident that it will be a clear positive tomorrow, only another 14 hours or so to wait lol
Will you test again this evening? If so, what time are you thinking?

@SH998 i can see why you would have been so confident that your next transfer would be successful after your very first being an actual pregnancy, especially after not naturally getting pregnant. My first ivf, I got no blastocysts, 1 x 3 day embryo, hugely because the doctor only accessed 1 ovary. That FET failed. So I was not confident. Then I got onto a cheaper clinic, was thrilled as you had to be 39 and under and I was 2 months away, my egg collection I woke up they said we’ve accessed both your ovaries, which lead to 4 blastocysts and I got pregnant.

Believe me I wasn’t saying I was missing out in not having a partner, 😂what I was saying is most women if they want to keep a pregnancy secret they can bounce off on their partner with the secret. They might not tell friends. As I am single the alternative to a partner to share this with is a friend. No I don’t feel I’m missing out on having a partner at all, there is so many benefits to being single having a baby, I grew up with my mum, I met my dad at 17, so I feel like I’m the perfect person to do this. Also grieving the loss i was able to move on more easier and on my own accord without a partner possibly grieving to, having to look after them, etc…some People underestimate being single like it’s a sad thing but it’s really not.

i will test probably around 9pm, I find in the evening the line is similar to the morning test. It’s crazy if this trigger has stayed with me for 12 whole days. I know sometimes women post photos of their test and say could it be the trigger at 12 days and a person will say doubtful the line shouldn’t be that strong now but my test today was faint. As you say it HCG does double if healthy.

@Hyppyb I had no issues with being single, loved the independence of it. The only thing upsetting me about being single was the fact that I couldn’t have children, or so I though. How times have changed for the better in the last few years. I did look into a donor at one point but was shocked by the lack of donors or maybe it was the donors with the same colouring as myself I struggled with. Blond hair, blue eyes, there was maybe 10 out of 70 that fitted my criteria but as I was CRM or GRM or something like that negative it reduced it to about 4 possible donors.
Also as was via NHS I think they have further limitations. Did you have the same issues?
Please let me know what the 9oclock results are or I wouldn’t be able to sleep lol

@Hyppyb CMV is it lol 😂

@SH998 I totally get that. I was the same. For me I always wanted to be in a relationship, then when my mum died, I had no immediate family at 31, it panicked me the idea of never having family again so I started online dating and I dated for like 4 years and I HATED it. Most men wouldn't talk to me, the ones that did were perves, the small minority I went on dates with were very socially awkward, the ones where I felt it wasn't too bad had huges issues. It was really upset and fustrating. I wanted a relationship but not the dating part.

Of course if I met a decent guy I would have enjoyed dating him and i think im more designed for a friend who becomes more. I also realised my panick wasnt really about a romantic relationship it was about running out of time to be a mum. At 35 I was like I'm not going to date anymore I'm going to have a child by myself. But I had to sell my mums house and buy a new one, that took time I was 37 by then, then covid, then at 38 I started. Thought I'd get pregnant at least 3 IUIs didn't happen.

I agree about the lack of donors esp during covid. It was empty the banks. Lot of the criteria I was looking for one donor did not meet, like good eyesight, no allergies,etc I really wanted someone raised in the UK a lot were abroad. I didn't want to have to teach my kid about being German or Polish. 😁

I was born here and my ethnicity is Jamaican, i was OK with having my donor be Jamaican or English. As then I wouldnt have to teach them about their culture really. That was hard to find. In the end I was like you will never find the perfect man. My donor is English white , 6"2, good eyesight, blonde, police office, was in the army , I have a 20 min audio of his interview, his handwriting, I know more about his medical health than I would a husband 😂 I cried at the end of his audio as he said the only thing that would disappoint him is if he's offspring was unhappy and wasn't doing whatever it was to be happy.

I didn't check my CMV, but I chose a donor who doesn't have it anyway. To have free IVF you have to have a partner where you've tried to conceive for 2 years so single women don't get it for free.

I will let you know but I really don't think much will have changed.

@SH998 i just tested on the plastic tests. This morning and this evening. I would say they’re very similar but this evening might be a little darker just a little. I know you can’t really see. I’m still not convinced. Maybe strips tonight will be clearer.

@SH998 So I am none the wise, it’s like the HCG has plateaued over the last couple days, if it was just the trigger it shouldnt be doing that it should be fading day by day. By now it’s gone or very little. I feel it’s more what a pregnancy would do as in the trigger fading then the real pregnancy taking over slowly. What’s interesting is in a normal month my period would be due in over a day away, Thursday because I have a 26 days cycle but because of ivf they do it as a 28 day cycle.

I took the strips out of the plastic case to have a better look and the strips showing nothing obvious. The line this evening is kind of strong I think.

@SH998 another camera...

@Hyppyb i really don’t want to get your hopes up but I really do think that’s a positive. You can see it dipped and fades to the point of almost being non existent on the middle tests then it gets stronger again. There is absolutely no way that the trigger can still showing in your system that strongly now!
Those strips appear to be showing better than the plastics ones but then it might be the lighting on them not making them clear to me. You can obviously see them better than I can.
Im so pleased for you. I know you don’t want to get your hopes up and face any disappointment so I’ll be excited for you :)
Do you have any period symptoms? Did the wind continue this afternoon?
On my failed ones I started bleeding within 7 days so knew before I even tested.

@Hyppyb ive zoomed in on the plastic ones and now I can deffo see lines on both :)

@SH998 aww thank you 😊....maybe tomorrow morning it will be clearer by the test getting darker. It will be 13 days past the trigger tomorrow. Then I can actually be like it's real. Just praying it's not etopic and it's a healthy pregnancy. If I am pregnant it's very early but it feels very different to last time. No cramping. The wind went within an hour that was uncomfortable. I'm in the office tomorrow. My failed FETS the eostrogen pills stopped my period. Actually I don't have all this tension building needing a release like you get with failed cycle where the eostrogen is suppressing menstruation. Maybe because im pregnant. Honestly this has been the least symptoms I've ever had.

Really hope this next FET is it for you. That it's successful and you can relax because as we both know IVF is not easy, it's a lot of endurance, keeping the faith and pushing through the heartache. So I have my fingers crossed for you. 🤞

@SH998 update - 7dpt and 13 days past trigger, so I tested this morning and looks the same to me, this is the reason maybe I should have just bought the first response as they always are more clearer, you actually see the slightest progression very clearly on those. In some YouTube videos strips aren’t the best. Other tests show a proper positive early and clearer. For me it looks like todays test is the same as the last few days. If this continues to plateau to test day then all I can do is tell the clinic it’s saying positive, even if I’m not 100% convinced. The paperwork they’ve given me says test on the 9th July. So that’s when I will try using the clear blue. I was told they would call earlier to check on my symptoms like last FET they still haven’t.

Getting excited about tomorrow.?

After half an hour from the above and on another camera it is getting darker, but still not convinced

@SH998 my 4Cb embryo, online one of the lowest grades and lowest chance of a pregnancy and here I am today testing positive when my 3Bb last FET completely failed.

When you put it into context, the average young woman has around a 30% chance of pregnancy every time she has unprotected sex. So 33% may look low as per the chance of a 4Cb implanting successfully but it’s kind of not when you compare it to that, like 33 women out of 100 will get pregnant.

@Hyppyb been mega busy in work today so only now checking on this. How are you feeling? Any symptoms/signs.
Im still saying that pregnancy test is positive, the HCG wouldn’t be that strong now so the only alternative is a pregnancy.
Whats your thoughts on it?
Im amazed too that you B embryo didn’t take but your C has, it really does go to show that you can’t use the grading alone to determine whether the embryo is healthy or not.
Maybe the additional hormones from your naughty follicle helped with the implantation … there was us thinking that wasn’t a good sign lol
A C is average quality not poor as some say, I’m so happy this has worked for you. On the plus side also, you’ve had no pains like before so chances of it being ectopic is unlikely :)

@SH998 I was in the office today at work, pretty busy too. So weird as this time it's way easier keeping schtum.

I think I'm just in denial after my last pregnancy. Last time it was really quite magical and I was aware what could go wrong but never imagined how bad it would be, how the nhs was so happy to send me home without a scan, then the weeks of pain. I know it sounds silly to be in all this denial, it's not like I accidentally got pregnant. I will start believing soon. Maybe a bit of shock is a good thing.

Last time the trouble started at 5 and a half weeks, strong intense pain in my left hip. So as I'm no where near 5 weeks I think it's too early to tell. Hoping to go to the EPU next week to start being monitored. Technically I could call them tomorrow as that's my period due date but it's not 2 weeks from ovulation, Friday is.

I've had very light twinges in my left hip where my ectopic was but I had the same but worst in my last failed FET so it could easily be the meds messing with my ovaries or my lime sized fibroid may be having a party on the hormones 🤣

How are you doing? All set for tomorrow? It's good your closer to your transfer. When was your last one, was it early spring? It's definitely the easiest part of IVF so I hope you can relax. I will send baby dust your way. If it was my misbehaving follicle that did the trick hope you get a misbehaving one too. Might be the baby asprin, none of my other FETs did I take asprin for that long. It's weird as my 3BB I didn't really have as good vibes as my 4CB. Maybe because it was an underdog and I loved the thought of a spring baby.

@Hyppyb have you tested again this evening? I think it’s now safe to say your pregnant. Massive congratulations, I’m so happy for you.
Who would have thought that little C frosty would end this way :)
It is hard to get excited after a loss, your fully aware of how easily it can be taken away for you so maybe living in denial for now isn’t a bad thing. It might allow you to put all those bad thoughts to the back of your mind for a little while anyway. At least you will be monitored early this pregnancy so hopefully prevent any issues.
How many days/ weeks were you taking baby aspirin this time before transfer?
Strange how you had bad vibes from your last but positive from this when it’s ‘apparently’ a lower quality embryo. I’m the opposite, felt excited about the last one, this one not at all. Maybe you felt better as you expectations were lowered for that reason, a lower quality embryo so you probably expected the worse. You can’t help but think there’s more chance a higher grade embryo will work, therefore getting your hopes up more last time around.
Scan day tomorrow, I’m not feeling a lot about it to be honest, I’ll go, get it done and face the reality afterwards. My last transfer was a double embryo (2 As) and was back in February.
I would love a March/April baby. I was over the moon having an April baby but it wasn’t meant to be. What will your due date be?

@SH998 Aww thank you. Yes I can say I am definitely pregnant. I did a pregnancy strip test this evening and it would have been diluted but it was so much darker than this morning which inspired me to take the clearblue. It says 1 to 2 weeks but that's since baby was conceived not since last period. So due date is different on different pregnancy calculators but it's looking like the 14th March 2024.

Right now I can't get attached. Not until I know baby is in the right place. I'm so jaded. Its hard. But of course thankful to get pregnant. Its only been 4 months since my pregnancy loss ended.

I was taking baby asprin 30 days before transfer and I'm still taking it, will continue until the placenta takes over from the yolk sac. I was reading one of the causes of chemical pregnancies is clotting issues.

Another thing I did was I bought Baileys the new flavour Colada that i was excited about and I said to myself if I don't get pregnant I have a consolation prize to try and maybe that lack of all or nothing feeling inside relaxed me to get pregnant. Maybe grasping at straws but I just want to share every little thong different that happened this time round to you as you never know. Remember the 20 minute walk I had.

I'm really hoping this is it for you. Please let me know how your scan goes.

@Hyppyb yep much darker, at least now seeing the the line you know it’s the pregnancy. Will you continue to test and if so for how long. I tested every day until my 8 week scan, lesson learnt there. Will not bring do that again.
You have got pregnant quickly since your last loss, I’m still astounded it’s you C embryo which you were really unsure of.
So the plan is to contact EPU next week who will carry out regular scans? Do the IVF clinic take extra precautions or will you just have your normal scans with them?
I would have only been taking baby aspirin 18/19 days by transfer date, not sure if that’s any good. I’ll be following your lead and going for a 20 minute walk, did you do that immediately after the transfer or at least get home first?
Scan is 8.10am so not long to wait.

@SH998 i was thinking of testing until I get my dye stealer but I think I’d really only get that on a First Response test as I tested a day after the trigger and it was just 2 strong lines not a dye stealer. The clearblue 10 to 153 HCG equals the test saying 1 to 2 weeks pregnant so I know I’m in that range, last time at 5 and a half weeks I was 7900. That was higher than the average.

I'm going to call the EPU today, do a self referral as they did say call when you get your positive. Then I think what will happen is they will call me in for only blood tests to begin with 2 days apart to see if it’s doubling, then they will scan but I think they have to wait until 5 weeks as it’s so early to see a baby. The fertility clinic will only book me in for a 6 week scan, that’s it, that’s there way with checking all patients that it’s viable. Last time I knew before their scan something was wrong as I had already gone to the hospital.

Usually especially after a transfer I would get a Uber, but this time I got a train, it’s a 20 minute walk from the station to home. The station has a staircase to get to the next platform and I read you should try to avoid stairs and I was like not today I’m going to climb them, I mean last transfer I was all delicate with my Uber it failed, this time I wasn’t.

I feel like it’s a step by step process. It’s like getting pregnant is great but then got another 2 to 3 weeks to know if it’s in the right place and even if it is is it healthy to sustain a pregnancy, so the roads not over. Yes I did get pregnant pretty quickly in that it was my second attempt after my pregnancy loss.

I would say as long as you’ve been taking the baby aspirin for a week before your transfer it will have started thinning your blood to prevent clotting and promoting implantation. Then esp during the two week wait. I know my 4Cb. So many times I read how poor quality they are. I got pregnant with a 4Bb last time so Bs can be good too. Good luck for today. ☺️