What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

[Hyppyb]

Hey,

It's my second cycle if ivf, I'm on Bemfola 225 iu and it's day 4 of my cycle. Last time I was on Gonal F 150iu. Was wondering if it will produce more eggs now.

Just wanted to ask anyones dosage, the name of their ivf medication and the egg result, home many were retrieved?

@SH998 i only know about chemical pregnancies through word of mouth and from researching what can go wrong with a pregnancy. It’s where you test early, see a faint positive line and it fades or disappears, then you get a heavier period a week later. The embryo failed to implant properly but did initially hence the HCG. Many women have them and don’t realise, they just think it’s a bad period. Looking at my tests strip with the old ones my lines got really dark, plus I had pregnancy symptoms, it’s more likely to be miscarriage (implanted well but embryo stopped developing) or ectopic.

Clearblue indicates weeks from conception not from last period. I tested Clearblue 7 days ago said 1 to 2 weeks, fine, but a week later it said the same thing. In my last message you will see where I work out the minimum the HCG would have to be for it to be ok, plus 75% every couple days is ok too, so it’s possible it’s ok. I don’t feel there’s anything wrong with the Clearblue test as like I said the new pregnancy test strip is not getting darker so Clearblue was my confirmation that my HCG is plateauing or decreasing. Of course not 100%.

I’m not panicking or stressing, the better strip test will be here I think Saturday, I’m not going to rush it or buy another HCG test. If I’m losing the pregnancy I’m losing the pregnancy. Will keep using the current strip test although I only have 5 left. Just see how I go. There’s not much i can do. If it is what I’m thinking it really sucks but that’s how it goes, If it is a normal miscarriage not an ectopic that’s not worse case scenario, worst case is an ectopic, of course best case is I don’t lose the pregnancy and my HCG is just at a lower than average but at a ok rate increase.

i took a photo of the test to me it looks like it’s fading also as I said this test doesn’t naturally take a lot of the dye and only gives strong lines at 3000 HCG, but it not getting darker I feel it what flagged it up. It’s it’s a miscarriage or an ectopic if the hcg disappears from the test that would be helpful as it means I don’t have to go through what I did last time. That can happen at low levels. My HCG was 7900 at 5 weeks last time I’m nowhere near that this time. Hence why I really suffered last time.

I read 10dpt you should have at least 50 hcg so 14dpt around 200 hcg. I'm clearly not that.

@Hyppyb the line does look darker on the older tests but as you say it’s a different brand so might show differently. I really hope it’s neither and the pregnancy continues successfully but should it end obviously let’s hope it’s via miscarriage and not ectopic. Surely you can’t be that unlucky to suffer again. I know the risks are higher but jeez you deserve this break!
Im thinking it’s not ectopic as the HCG should still rise even if it’s in the wrong location shouldnt it? You would know more than me on that.

@SH998 no I wouldnt know more than you. Information regarding ectopic pregnancy is very sketchy. Ectopic pregnancies there's no rhyme or reason to the pattern of hcg to diagnose it. They said I had an ectopic because they couldnt find the baby anywhere definitely not in the womb, then my hcg decreased so they said miscarriage then increased so they said ectopic.

So the rise, fall, rise again = ectopic or also a plateau. So that could be what is happening now, my hcg went up, might be decreasing or a plateau and then it could rise again. That's why even if I bleed soon I need to still see the EPU. Last time they said miscarriage and then my hcg without realising doubled which is dangerous. Many women have several ectopics. I hoped it being a frozen transfer would really reduce the risks and the doc assured me she released the embryo perfectly so shouldn't go into the fallopian tube.

If its found to be ectopic (although I doubt they will be sure it is as the hcg is so low) I will see about getting both my tubes removed, have to go private as I can't keep doing this. I feel like when this happens I feel quite numb but sad also and then angry / frustrated. But my hcg is still so low so if it is anything bad hoping it can be resolved sooner rather than later like next week rather than 12 crazy week bleeding! That was something else

Thank you and thank you for not thinking I'm a drama queen. 😌i did the clearblue to check my concerns as I understand the new strips work different naturally taking less dye but they should get darker. I feel like I'm preparing for bleeding,...altho who knows might not be any by Tuesday.

Its so strange that when you get that positive of the day of your next cycle you have a 70% chance of having live birth. So why does it feel like the odds aren't in our favour.

Your transfer is tomorrow. How you feeling? All set?

I never tested this long last time but I feel like the longer you test the more darker the pregnancy strip is the next day. So early on where you are like 10hcg, the next day you are around 15, the next day 20 so the increase is less noticeable and faint but by now if you are like 250 hcg the next day 375 and the next 500 hcg its like so obviously darker. That's where I feel I would be by now.

I thing I'm 4 weeks 4 days. Last time I was 5 weeks 4 days I thing when I had the full on pain bleeding, so will see if in the next week anything gets bad.

Just been doing some reading with a woman questioning her HCG at 4 weeks, only 116. Responses were different women saying about their healthy pregnancies-

4 weeks 5 days HCG was 91 and then 5 weeks 200 HCG, her next pregnancy 4 weeks 77 HCG.

4 weeks 2 days HCG was 30.

So sounds like it’s not always a definite bad thing I mean 91 at 4 weeks 5 days is probably around what I am. So I have a glimmer of hope I guess as in most cases I would think low HCG doesn’t equal it being good.

I read it’s unlikely to see anything on the ultrasound if HCG is below 2,000. Unless I get a HCG boost by Tuesday that is doubtful.

What will be will be.

@Hyppyb im gutted for you but still hoping for a positive outcome. It still early days. I suppose you will have a better idea over the next few days but I bet it will drag and seem like a week away! When I was pregnant I would go to bed at 8pm to make the nights go faster so waking up would mean another day was done and another day closer to some positive news.
The clinic will call me tomorrow morning with a time, I’m ok about it at the moment. It’s the week after that the emotions kick in when test day gets closer. I haven’t packed my bag yet so will do that tomorrow.

@SH998 it's so weird. Last pregnancy was like an out if body experience, I never felt connected or believed I was pregnant was so alien to it, more innocent and believing id have a baby. Then this time even though I was on egg shells, I didn't feel alien to my pregnancy, was more real and knew anything could happen. Definitely more prepared for the worst. More grounded.

You are right, still early days, I read its every 72 hours hcg needs to double so could be ok with really low levels but will be realistic. Will take a test tonight and in the morning.

That's really sweet that'd you'd go bed early almost like at Xmas. 🤣 I'm the opposite I go bed and then wake up at 4.45am my pregnancy does that.

Yeah the actual transfer as you know you have nothing to worry about but yeah the 10 date wait is something else. Will you test with strips? Remember to walk, have chips after and baby asprin. I definitely believe baby asprin helped with impantation. Most important thing is to relax as best as you can.

@Hyppyb i plan on doing the above this time around. The transfer itself is easy and over in minutes, it’s always later the panic and stress kicks in. I’ve been taking aspirin each morning with my meds, 6am, is it ok to take it that time tomorrow?
I’ll be doing the strips first then only buy the plastic tests if the strips are positive. I’ve no doubt I’ll be testing by day 4! My partner will freak coz he knows I’ll be upset if it’s negative so early, makes no different when you get that negative as it heartbreaking anytime but I think he likes to live in ‘the fairytale’ it’s worked that little bit longer.
Hey, don’t give up hope yet, it’s early days and all bodies behave differently. You might just have a little lazy bean who’s taking its time to get comfy :)

@SH998 im sure everything will be fine, I’m sending baby vibes your way. Baby aspirin I take at 10pm at night that’s how I was told to take it, so try before bed. Many people get their positives at 4DPT so it’s not too early, just have to try to be realistic and know that a positive can happen later.

So I took a test tonight and it’s faded so much I can barely see a line. This different brand of strips aren’t great. I will be surprised if there’s a positive tomorrow. Maybe Friday it will be 100% negative. It is like a chemical pregnancy as the lines faded before 5 weeks although if I see an increase after this it would be likely an ectopic. I realised with a chemical usually what would happen now after a faint test, then negative is a delayed period but I’m on the eostrogen so I’m guessing I won’t bleed.

So will wait until it’s definitely negative and then call the clinic to get confirmation to stop the meds, also my HCG is so low now that I think that means there’s too little to increase again like the body will expel everything with my period. Going to EPU anyway to get examined and see their opinion on what happened but they probably won’t know or give clear answers. I did have aches in my side but may have been gas, may have been hormones, may be ectopic I don’t think I will know.

This journey,.,.good luck tomorrow. Hope it goes well.

@Hyppyb im gutted for you, I had everything crossed this would be your time. On the plus side you managed to get pregnant again in quick succession so you’re relatively fertile so there’s no issues there and would certainly give me hope that you will eventually get a lasting positive.
I would still go for the scan just for clarification and maybe they will be able to give further feedback even if it is just something small.
As suspected im up early as can’t sleep. Thanks for thinking of me, I’ll keep you updated x

@SH998 I tested today and really faint. I've emailed the clinic with my progression lines and asked when to come off the meds to start a period. I've also said I'm unclear what this was, explained the ache in my side I've had for over a week, said wasn't sure if ectopic, or hormones in my ovary or the large fibroid positioned there. I doubt they will have any answers but best to tell them everything. So I expect a call today from a nurse but I think she may arrange a call with the nurse practitioner or doctor.

I don't think I will get clarification. It's just too many factors involved it could be this, it could be that, it could also be that and they have no technology to check it. Even my last pregnancy they didn't see a baby anywhere do they only guessed pregnancy in an unknown location. I'm not expecting real answers but still it's important to go to EPU and tell the clinic everything. It's like it was a chemical ended before 5 weeks but chemicals are usually without pregnancy symptoms and I had those.

I am OK for sure better than I thought I'd be and thankful to not be going though 12 weeks of misery.

Yes please keep me updated. Hope it goes well today. Please relax and think positive. Once they do it remember you are pregnant until proven otherwise so believe in that.

@SH998 How did you get on? What time was it? Did you get a scan photo? It always depends on the doc I get some don’t give a photo.

So I emailed my clinic, explained my HCG is decreasing, sent photo and they’ve said to come in tomorrow for a blood test. I only really emailed them so I can come off my meds to start my period which I guess will be very heavy.

InfertilityTv just released a video about prednisone, that meds the clinic casually asked if I wanted with an FET as it would stop a other condition interfering with implantation but when I read more I didn’t. Infertility TV showed implantation was the same for those who had placebo and prednisone and more people had a biochemical on prednisone. InfertilityTV said you should get a second opinion if your clinic pushes you. Thought that was interesting. It’s crazy how docs don’t tell you the full story.

@Hyppyb Appointment was 1.30pm, went down about 2.15pm as they wanted me to drink more water. It went really well and I did get a little pic :)
This time it felt different, I can’t describe how, maybe I felt more positive leaving. Strange as we walked out my partner said ‘I felt that was far more relaxed than last time, it felt like it was meant to be this time’ I hadn’t even said how I felt at this point.
They put in the 5BB which had already started hatching, they said that was a good sign as was showing it’s doing what it’s meant to do.
Let’s hope that’s a positive and ends with a positive and a full term pregnancy 🙏🏻🤞🏼.
I went for a 20 minute walk afterwards and also had chips for lunch with lots of salt (not McDonald fries though).
How soon will you get the bloods back? They will show if the pregnancy has in fact ended? Your obviously still feeling that way. Such a shame.

@SH998 im thrilled it went well, that’s really lovely to hear. Sounds very hopeful with the embryo already hatching. Could implant tomorrow. Very exciting. That’s so good you did your walk and had your chips. Nothing more you can do now. Just let your body do it all. Just remember pregnancies are different even for the same person, so no symptoms doesn’t mean you are not pregnant as I had zero symptoms this pregnancy early on.

Bloods is same day. I’ve come to terms the pregnancy is over, but I’m still taking my meds until I’m told not to. The clinic has the photo of the line progression and the line fading. The nurse mentioned about me switching brands so unsure if they’re thinking somethings wrong with the test, I don’t believe so I’m only guessing that’s what they’re thinking. What else? Maybe they’re holding at straws? I don’t know as I’ve moved on already. You have to to move forward.

i’m ok. I think you know I’m a very balanced and realistic person, I never get swept up as a great high is always a big drop so I’ve stayed as grounded and relaxed as I can and I’m thankful this experience was nothing like the last pregnancy.

My plan is to have another FET in August.

@Hyppyb woke up feeling fine, not a single sign of any niggles etc, I honestly cant remember the first few days for my positive so not sure if I did last time. Its been less than 24 hours so I know I'm being unrealistic and pretty insane to expect something already. This is how mental I am! lol.
When did you start feeling things on both yours? Anything within the first few days?
Let me know how you get on today with the bloods. Your being very level headed on this, I wish I could be.

@SH998 First pregnancy I had sharp implantation cramps on 2dpt for over a day. I've said before implantation cramps 30% of women get them. Second pregnancy I had no symptoms before my positive. After I had gas and fatigue. So don't let not feeling something worry you and sometimes even if you do it's the hormones.

Had blood test. They said 3.30pmish they either call. My guess is it will be like 15hcg which is great on day of missed pregnancy but not now. Will be good to move on. My track record for 5 day blastocyst is 2 out of 3 pregnancies. So I clearly have no issues with getting pregnant via ivf. That's something.

@Hyppyb I think I need to stop thinking about it, I’m constantly googling and checking for any changes. I need to realise there's nothing I can do regarding the outcome whichever way it goes. I just have to hope that it goes in my favour this time.
You have absolutely no issues with getting pregnant so something less for you to worry about it just wasn’t the right time. I clearly have an issue so my stress levels are through the roof on every try.
Please keep me posted on the results, you know what the outcome is but having that final clarification will close a book on this chapter. Will you still attend next weeks scan or do you cancel that? Not sure of the process.

@SH998 I disagree. I think if you are antsy and stressed it's best to have an outlet like Google and researching. It's a way of releasing your stress. It's better out than in. Plus im the same. I think repressing feelings isn't good. If you get the urge do it!

Day by day. Did you say you will test from 4dpt. At least you don't have the trigger so will 100% know. I feel like you have to stop believing there's an issue. Try to believe in your body. All the tests haven't shown an issue and you've had a pregnancy, the likelihood is it ended because of a chromosomal issue which is like majority of women, so nothing wrong with you.

The clinic called and said my bloods were negative. My hcg much have dropped so quickly. So now that I have stopped meds I should start my period/miscarriage bleed mid next week. I will put this down to chemical pregnancy. Last time I implanted very well in the wrong place and this time I didn't implant enough.

I've not told the EPU I'm about to miscarry. I might get told off. Ah well. I don't see the appointment as just a scan it's like a check up. When I was pregnant even now I've had a slight pain in my ectopic area. I want someone to say it's likely this or likely that. No one can ever be 100% but I think it's important to still go. If I had stop testing I'd be non the wiser thinking I'm pregnant as the meds stop you from your period. Crazy no one tells you to keep testing I didn't last time once I got my dye stealer. Online women do stop testing.

I was just looking at my progression line and today there is really faint line so its interesting she called and said it was negative which is 5 hcg and below. Test strips pick up at least 10 and blood tests are more sensitive and purer than urine tests. Must have just really dropped super quickly

Forgot to say I have my follow up Thursday. Will start my FET mid August. Got to move move move. Don't have time to hang about.

@Hyppyb my partner wants me to hold out until day 14, as if! Lol. I’m going to try to hold off until day 7 but being me I doubt I’ll last that long. Last positive was quite faint on day 7 so I wonder if that would have shown sooner, that’s why I’m using the day 7 as a starting point.
Will you think of trying something different for the next FET or continue as you are? To be fair you don’t appear to have issues getting pregnant so there’s probably not much you need to change. What grade is your last embryo? It’s similar to the last one isn’t it?

@SH998 The clinic told me to test 9dpt so is that when your partner is saying as that's 14 days past ovulation? People who wait that long I feel its fine. The only thing I would say is let's say this time you get a negative (hoping its positive) on 9dpt. Are you OK not knowing that you may have had a chemical pregnancy, I.e. got a positive very early on and then it faded before you tested. I think your someone who would want to know as you will get some comfort that you got pregnant rather than just keep getting negatives for when you try again. See what I mean?

I only have one embryo left now a day 6 4CB. Will do everything the same. I'm calling this a chemical pregnancy. I don't know if it tried implanting in the right place and failed or in my left tube again (where they suspected) and failed I don't know.

Will have to have a 3rd egg collection in October if it doesn't go my way next month, hoping it does. Would be lovely if next month that was it.

@Hyppyb no, our clinic advised to test 14 days after transfer which I think is something like the 27th, I wouldn’t be able to wait that long but that was the official test day last positive, it must be something our clinic advises. I don’t think mentally it will do me any good testing before 5 days, I’m living in my bubble until proven otherwise. I haven’t even been tempted to test yet but it is extremely early.
Well this latest pregnancy has really proven any grade counts so will have everything crossed for you. I really hope you don’t have to go through another collection.
The stress of a FET I find bad enough, to begin the whole process again frightens the shit out of me lol 😂

@SH998 14 days after transfer? Thats unusual. I've heard of 9 or 10 days post transfer never 14 days. That's 5 days after a period. I still had a line 14 days past transfer but it had fainted, 10, 11 and 12 days past transfer the lines were very strong. So as I said if you waited 14 days there's things you might not know about your pregnancy like a chemical. Testing before 5dpt there's not much action. 5dpt onwards you could see a pregnancy for sure. Do what's best for you. Like test when you feel it's right.

Part of me is thinking my grade was C = average inner mass the baby and B = over average placenta...maybe that's what happened my placenta was good and implanted but the baby wasn't so it didn't survive hence a chemical pregnancy. Sometimes grades do improve in the womb so hope that happens with my slow 6 day 4cb.

I've not started bleeding yet. I won't until I think Wednesday so my period/miscarriage bleed which will be like a heavy period. The eostrogen shuts down your cycle so your period is delayed so remember that when you get to the day of your period that a late period doesn't mean you're pregnant only the test will tell you that.

Got my app on Tuesday at 4.20 at the EPU really to talk about the pain in my ectopic area this pregnancy. I just know I won't get any answers. Best to try. They can reassure me or give advice about it in the least you know.

Any symptoms yet?