Short luteal phase?

[JuniperandI]

Hi ladies

I have a short LP, about 9-10 days. Anyone else in the same boat? Have you managed to get pregnant with a short LP? Any advice would be very welcome!

@DesertSnow that's a great way of thinking about it. Peace of mind is so valuable!

@DesertSnow yes I have thought that too and for all it’s gutting that it almost seems impossible to get pregnant when AF arrives so early, it’s almost better that than sitting through a cycle of 30 odd days just to get a negative then go back to the start. I might be getting nowhere but at least I’m going there quickly 😂

I’m so excited for it to be December this year, always think this last bit of November drags in anyway but more so when you’re TTC. I’ve got something christmasy on every weekend in December so that’s a good distraction plus I feel like I’m a celeb is getting me through the weeks just now! Plus worst case scenario if it’s negative in the second week in December when/if I get to test, at least I can have a drink on Christmas Day 🤷🏼‍♀️🥂 really clinging onto the positives here! After that I have no more good reasons not to be pregnant left and NEED to be pregnant in January 😂

@LS888 This is such a lovely supportive place to chat - and I do think men just don't get it sometimes. And even though they can be great and supportive, it's not them watching out for symptoms every day, or them who has strictly BBT on schedule or watch out for fertility signs, or work out when it's best to DTD. And then of course if you do get pregnant, it's not them who has to go through the physical endurance test of the next nine months. So it's nice to have women supporting each other through the rough bits, and TTC with a short LP is so hard.

@JuniperandI 100%!

@BCxx yes absolutely! I've seen women with a 16 day LP complaining about the TWW and while I've obviously been jealous of them for having a normal LP, I do appreciate that the waiting is so hard so at least we're on to the next cycle pretty quickly. More chances to conceive in a year! And it clearly is possible, as there have been a few success stories shared on this thread! Great that you're planning to take advantage of the Christmas season. I think if this pregnancy sticks it's going to be fairly obvious to people - I'm not a big drinker but me not even having a glass of prosecco at Christmas will certainly draw questions. Particularly as DH's family basically ask me every time they see me anyway... at the wedding I didn't drink at all (I felt a bit nauseous due to all the excitement - knew I wasn't pg as in follicular phase) and one of his friends asked me 3 times if I was pregnant. Which I found a bit irritating! If this pregnancy sticks, I realise she's now going to assume she was right 🙄

I'm 7/8 DPO today (I thought I was 6 DPO yesterday but then I sat down and properly thought about it, and I could have ovulated last Saturday rather than Sunday). Anyway, I've woken up feeling a little sick, and I got very emotional last night because DH asked me to do the washing up!

For context, I've normally had 3 or 4 days of quite bad sickness/acid reflux and wild mood swings by now.
AF is due Wednesday....

I've also 'felt' pregnant since I ovulated..could it be?!?!?!?!

@JuniperandI when I was pregnant before my MC I just felt pregnant. I missed it for a few weeks as I did a test when period was due. And it was negative. Then I had some bleeding for 2/3 days which must have been implantion. So didn’t think anything of it as I assumed that was my period. Then I felt so sick a few weeks later. I came home from work grinning and I just knew before we even took the test. I was 3weeks+ on a clear blue! Fingers crossed that feeling is right for you too!

I am also 7DPO and usually have a 28 day cycle. I am on CD28 today and no sign of AF starting yet. I am trying to hold out testing until 10dpo at least which will mean a 32 day cycle like I had last month. It was so hard last month as I was 4 days late and we were in holiday and I was thinking I might be pregnant the whole time- then AF came on the last day!

@DesertSnow yeah definitely! I had a much lighter period this month which makes me think my hormones and possibly progesterone has sorted itself out a bit, the last few months have been so horrific. Taking that as a good sign for ttc 🤞🏼 That’s so annoying (and rude) when people think it’s okay to say that. I always think, given how common miscarriages are, how do people know at the point when they’ve asked that you literally didn’t just have a miscarriage yesterday then have to answer ‘are you pregnant?’ today. I’ve been asked outright a few times in the last few months and I think itl be pretty obvious we’re trying or will be soon due to my son’s age and most people seem to try for a 2 year gap. If you don’t want them to know yet I would go out my way to pretend I’m drinking 😂 I’ve got it all thought out that I’ll pour a bottle of non alcoholic rosé into an old bottle I have and take it at Christmas. I’ll then offer to get people drinks so I’m in control. If anyone does offer me a drink I will take it then wander off to the bathroom to switch it for water or my own ‘rosé’ 😂

@JuniperandI that's interesting! I was super emotional the day of implantation - it was one of the things that made me so certain AF was coming. I was crying at a birth announcement of someone I didn't even know... (and not completely in a sad/jealous way, just emotional, if that makes sense?) Fingers crossed this is a good sign for you!

@LS888 oh that's so annoying AF showing just at the last minute! Fingers crossed she stays away for you this time.

@BCxx that definitely sounds like a good sign re. your hormones regulating! That's totally it - my friend had three miscarriages last year, and she was at a big work event and someone shouted 'Congratulations on the baby' to her from across the room. She'd just miscarried but was still showing a little bit - but she hadn't even announced her pregnancy. So heartbreaking and unbelievably thoughtless on their part. My husband went out with his family last night and the first thing his dad said is 'when are you having a baby?' We've been married 2 weeks so there's so much more of this to come - especially with Christmas. I like your thinking re. drinking! But I think if I am still pregnant at Christmas, I'll be 8 weeks and our plan is to have an early scan early that week, then if all well we'll tell parents and siblings. They'll likely guess anyway, and Christmas would be a nice time to announce.

However, I've done another cheapie this morning at 12DPO and the line is very faint. I think it's darker than it was at 10DPO but would have thought it should be darker by now. Waiting for hubby to wake up to get his opinion. I am also a bit concerned I don't feel nauseous - while I know every woman and every pregnancy is different, I've also read that this could be the sign of a chemical as hcg just isn't high enough. I wouldn't say I'm experiencing symptoms, except being a little warmer than usual and occasional boob pains - but these have distinctly lessened. So I'm in a bit of a muddle and I know it's awful of me to say when you lovely ladies are waiting for a positive because I'm so lucky to have even got a positive test, but I'm feeling a bit worried. I'm really sorry if that's insensitive of me, just everything I've ever wanted is within touching distance and I'm so scared it's going to get taken away.

(also sorry for the essay!)

@Rosiestraws congratulations! That's fab!! So many successes on this tread now, I'm starting to wonder if the short LP is quite the problem we had all worried it might be?! Or maybe we've just been very lucky?? Who knows!!! Anyway!! Congrats and I hope everything goes to plan!!

@buttercupbee how are you feeling? Has the UTI cleared up?

@Mugascauld hope you're doing ok, boo to AF... Great that your LP was longer though! That's a real positive!!

Hey @Sierra26 and @Lily1990 - this has been a pretty lucky thread so far 🤞🏻🤞🏻 wishing the same for you guys!! But most importantly, really supportive and lovely.

@BCxx how you getting on? Managing to stay positive?

@JuniperandI fingers crossed for you "TWW" hoping AF doesn't arrive!!! Those are all good signs. I found out at 10DPO and my first "symptom" was crying for no good reason 😅

@LS888 - yup very frustrating about the men! Mine is the same. I keep trying to educate him, and he does listen. But I just think it's a bit too much for him 😅. Good work on holding out until 10DPO! Fingers crossed for you!!

And finally @DesertSnow - I KNEW IT!! I had a real feeling about you this month. I am SO FREAKING PLEASED FOR YOU and really hoping and praying that it sticks around for you!! Have you tested today??? I was a bit crazy with my testing. I tested every day until 20DPO and stuck them in a book so I could see the progressions as I was a bit worried about a chemical etc.

I'm 27DPO today. How long until I need to talk in weeks and not DPO?? 😅 everything seems to be going well. I'm feeling waves of nausea but nothing too horrible or lasting too long. I'm bone tired by 8pm. But I can absolutely cope with that. I'm feeling really positive. Hopefully it doesn't all end in tears because at this stage now, I'll be a wreck if it does. Private scan on Thurs... really hoping to see a heartbeat. I'll be 7 weeks exactly according to my LMP but according to O I'll only be 4 weeks 3 days gestation. They usually add two weeks onto that don't they. So I'm like either 7 weeks or 6 weeks 3 days. Which could be a bit early. Anyway... it's rather confusing and hopefully they can date me on Thursday!!

@EmmRach hello! I think we posted at similar times - I've updated above and am feeling rather worried to be honest. Which sounds so ungrateful of me. I know how lucky I am to have any kind of positive test.

Super happy that yours is progressing well! You're definitely out of the chemical risk stage now, how fab! I would say you can definitely start talking in weeks rather than DPO now! So hoping they find the heartbeat for you this week, but if they don't remember it doesn't mean it's not there at this stage as it's still so early. Hopefully you'll be clearer on dates on Thursday - do you know your rough due date? Assuming they'll be able to give you a more accurate idea then. How exciting! And glad the tiredness/nausea aren't too bad. It's one of the reasons I'm concerned - I'm not feeling either...

@DesertSnow
I absolutely feel you. It's so so nerve wracking. Like I say... I was obsessive about my tests. Let me take a photo of my tests on cheapies. Keep in mind they were 10 mIU though which I think is fairly strong. Have a look what yours are?
Maybe get on Amazon and get a FRER delivered tomorrow... that might make you feel a bit better about it. And remember some people don't even get a positive till 12+ DPO, we only found out earlier because of our short LPs! So it's still really early and even if your HCG is doubling it's still going to be low for the tests to pick up until a few more days.

I didn't feel any symptoms at all for a week or so, and then I don't think I'd have noticed if I wasn't super sensitive to them. So hopefully that's all that's happening for you.

Thank you, I promise to try and be level headed if there is no HB. I'll absolutely book another scan for the week after if that's the case though. And that will be the worst week ever. 😅

Sorry, I have to log on to the desktop version to post a pic, very annoying… here are my tests and the progression…

@Ldougal92 hey! Was wondering how you got on with the progesterone pessaries? Would give me some hope knowing things are going well - even if it’s just helping to lengthen the LP at this stage :)

I do have some positive news for you - the first cycle I used them I became pregnant :) now 6 weeks pregnant and taking them for the next 3 months continuously x Good luck

@EmmRach much better now thanks. We still managed to dtd around ovulation but not sure how the infection/antibiotics will have affected things. I guess we’ll have to wait and see but not too hopeful

I’m glad it’s going well for you so far. Fingers crossed evrrytbjnt is ok at your scan 🤞🏼

@EmmRach thank you for being so kind and reassuring. It's so nerve-wracking. My tests are 10 mIU also. Thanks so much for going to the effort of posting the pic, that really helps. I'd say mine is fainter than yours at 12DPO, but probably not by that much really. Really helpful to see. Don't think I'll do an FRER - I'm positive that right now I'm pregnant, but I don't have any control over a potential chemical so just have to hope it sticks. I'll do another test on Tuesday and see what that shows, if there's no change on the meantime. It's so hard that it's just completely out of my control.

Also good to hear that your symptoms didn't start for a bit! I've not felt nauseous, but I've felt really full all day, which is not like me! Normally I'm always looking forward to my next meal!

@Ldougal92 that's great news, congrats!

@buttercupbee glad the infection is cleared up and that you managed to DTD around ovulation. I thought with being ill there was no way I would conceive this cycle, and yet here I am.

@Ldougal92 congratulations! Really pleased for you and thank you for
sharing :) wishing you all the best for the pregnancy - hopefully the toughest part of the journey is over

@DesertSnow thank you, can’t say dtd was the most pleasant but I didn’t want to miss a month so powered through 😂

It’s promising to hear you still got a BFP despite being ill. I had covid last month too, I feel like there’s always something! Really hope everything goes ok for you and the line keeps getting darker 🤞🏼

@DesertSnow omg that’s so awful of them to do that, even if she was pregnant! I just don’t get it at all 🙈 Thats exactly what we did when I was pregnant with my little boy, we had the scan on the Monday and Christmas was at the end of the week. I’d already caved and told my mum the week before because it was obvious I wasn’t drinking at dinner. We got parents/siblings a Christmas card with it written on the front. I remember at the time feeling so uncomfortable with his family knowing though as we really aren’t close to them at all and they can’t hold their own water or whatever the phrase is 😂 I’m 99% sure his mum had told her sister on the phone and told her not to tell anyone so I said at the time if this happens again we are not telling them early 🙈 I feel bad telling my family but not his but they really don’t make any effort with the child we have so I don’t see why I’d tell them about another before friends who do make lots of effort. Harsh but other people’s feelings have gone out of the window this time! 🤣

I honestly think chemicals seem so common on here but probably aren’t so much in everyday life. People are probably more likely to share their experiences on here if they’re going through something like that. Easier said than done but I’d try and not test too much, how hydrated you are could be enough to change it at this stage. I did a clearblue digital weeks one every week just to check it was progressing and that made me feel better then the early scan was reassuring. I’m sure you’ll be okay ❤️

Oh you're so good @DesertSnow that is very sensible of you! Good for you and fingers crossed for everything 🤞🏻
And @BCxx is right, none of my friends, who all have kids, had never even heard of a chemical pregnancy before I told them I'd read about it on here. Easier said than done to not worry though - because I definitely did. So that's a bit hypocritical of me 🤣😅 sorry

Hi ladies, sorry it seems like I joined and then disappeared -I've not been on a thread like this before tbh and it's hard to read everyone's responses and then reply! Might be a bit much for me as I struggle to keep track and remember but I just thought I ought to give an update as I'd mentioned I was pregnant.

Well i've had bad news, my BFP has ended in a chemical. I had some brown spotting/bleeding and a bit of pink CM over Sat/Sun along with mild period like cramps. Tried to hope it was implantation bleeding (although seemed late) but I did a test Sun morning and it was super faint and my pregnancy symptoms had started fading too. Then today it's negative. I've spoken to GP etc and I've just got to wait a week and do another test and let them know the result. Clearly it'll be negative and assume I'll have had a proper bleed by then! But nothing they do

So, so gutted, especially as I'm not sure my partner is going to be on board with trying again to the same levels as we did last month. We did it every other day until after I've ovulated and obviously for me that was around day 22 and he felt loads of pressure and stressed so I know he won't be as keen to get right back into it. I guess will have to wait and see..

Best of luck to everyone if I don't post much more x

@Rosiestraws I'm so sorry to hear about your chemical pregnancy. I've had three this year, it's so difficult isn't it?

Update from me - I'm 99% sure AF is on her way. I had already decided that I want to give December a miss - no ovulation tracking, no inspecting CM. It's been a heartbreakingly difficult year, so I want to keep December for celebrating. Already eyeing up Waitrose to make my annual Christmas wine order and dreaming about all the brie and blue cheese I'll be eating! We'll start again in January ❤

Really sorry to read this @Rosiestraws be kind to yourself. Sending you lots of light and positive energy.

Aghhh @Rosiestraws I'm so sorry. That's heart wrenching. 😖😖 like other say, take care of yourself, snuggles and chocolate deffo required!!

@JuniperandI - I'm so sorry you've experienced that so many times this year. I honestly had no idea they were so common. That's got to have been really tough.