MC avengers, still eating cake, 2008 WILL BE OUR YEAR!

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Hey ladies I have been brave and started new thread.
Aquababe will not have to look at her thread opener again.

DiveDaisy & Alicia Welcome, sorry you had to join us, but pull up a beanbag and get comfy.
DiveDaisy Your hospital sounds fantastic, there was nothing like that after our ERPC. Don't get me wrong they were supportive but no service or details as to what happened to the foetus. Good luck to both of you with the TTC.
spink hope your feeling better today hun?
GG OMG can't believe the audacity of your ex and his partner! So it's OK for their lo to have a dummy but not for yours to suck her thumb, how two faced
Twilight Glad to hear everything is well with you, I recognise you from the Due Aug 08 thread when you kindly showed me the way here!
Bunny AF due tomorrow, but not feeling at all pg (not that I have much of a reference) temp has dropped so I'm expecting a visit from TEW shortly On the matter of insensitivity some people are so well meaning but get it so wrong like your friend. Yesterday I was chatting to my friend at work, who has had 3 m/c's so I always feel comfy talking to her about my nephew coming home from hospital and how I was 50/50 on looking forward to a cuddle for the first time and also dreading it and she said "Oh your still feeling sensitive then?" I was a bit taken aback, obviously I should be over it now then? I asked her if she thought I was being over-sensitive and she said "Yes" (Note to Mollie do not talk to her about feelings/pg/mc EVER again"!
Needless to say worried about it all day and all last night, got to work today and burst into tears! God I'm pathetic!
Anyway Bunny when I finally get my baby can I come work for you?
Emmsy Posted on other thread but just had to say that I think tears were to be expected and I imagine we will all be the same when we finally get there, doing the soggy tissue dance!
Claire so sorry you had such a terrible night, hope you feel a little better this morning hun x x
Scully I so envy your life in australia, sounds fabulous. Are you still waiting? How are you feeling?
Right I think I've waffled enough, hope I haven't missed anyone but if I have x x

Mollie sorry that you're friend that you thought was sensitive doesn't seem to be. A question about this though - has she got children or not? From my experience, 1st mc pre ds took me much longer to get over emotionally than last 2 post ds - it was such a longed for pregnacy which didn't happen. Although others did make me feel crap, ds is a great source of delight (most of the time, with bits of exasperation thrown in for good measure).

However, people get over it very differently, and I also think that it also affects things if you've been trying for some time before the mc happens it can sometimes hit you worse.

However, its crap whenever it happens...

Anyone for Chocolate pecan torte with lashings of double cream and a hot chocolate on the side?

Mistle Thanks for your kind words. She's in her 50's now, but at the time she had been trying for 4 years before first m/c. She had 2 before she had her dd then one more before her ds. Perhaps she's forgotten how much it hurt at the time, but like you say everyone copes and is affected differently. I'm obviously more of a sensitive creature than I thought! I have to say that a few friends have said that if I'd already got an lo it might have made it a little easier, but who knows!

Anyway too busy trying to stuff pecan torte, cream and hot chocolate in my mouth to type, I'm getting it all over the keyboard

Thanks x

Mistle, that dessert sounds delish Would go so nicely with my glass of wine
Shame, feeling a bit sorry for our puppy tonight, he got the 'snip' today so he is allowed on the carpet for the first (& only) time. As long as the little sod stops taking my washing off the line, I'll be happy
Thinking about it, my hospital last year didn't offer anything like that after my erpc, lovely that they did for you Daisy.
I said something similar to dh on our way home from hospital last year Mistle, that it was so much easier to go home and deal with everything, having the dd's there to remind us of how lucky we are. Not that I got any rest or peace and quiet, but I appreciated their easy arrival into the world so much more.
That's a strange comment for your friend to make Mollie, especially is she has had 3 m/c herself. Surely she realises every time and person is different
I'm feeling ok, thanx to everyone who has been asking. Luckily this time I know no-one who is due in Nov, in real life, so can avoid the reality for now. Still find it hard seeing pregnant people out and about though, even when I don't know them. But I had just got my head around that from the last m/c and this one happened so can see that being a continuing struggle.

I've got the delight of the secretary at work being about 2wks further on than I would be... And absolutely no concerns about going on about everything... Unlike when I was pgt here and everyone was being v hush hush about the whole thing as a colleague had a mc soon after I told people (I was 14wks by then). So I do get a bit at times.

mmm mmm choc pecan torte - my fave! (gobbling sounds ensue...)

scully hope i havent put you off the herbs - i was just having a whinge. dh just rolled his eyes when i went on about the vile herbs and said that i complain about everything and that i should be happy that there is something i can take to help heal myself so i thought i'd vent here instead. i guess poor dh has not stopped hearing me complain about every ache and pain for the last mths. i do believe the herbs will work as they have been used for thousands of years - there must be some collective wisdom in them iykwim.

mollie sorry to hear that af may get you. so annoying when that's all that you can think of isn't it? i'm not ttc but this morning i was thinking wistfully of being pg again. i think it is the sunshine and i would have been 8 mths along now so tempted to just go for it (cd14 today for me) but know that i still feel tired and weak and i want to be strong before we ttc again. anyway, hope you treat yourself to something nice if af does arrive.

clairepo sorry to hear more insensitive comments. the stuff that comes out of close friends' mouths sometimes is surprising - but i guess if they havent been through mc they have no clue. not an excuse though... mollie dont think you are too sensitive - it's still relatively recent and you may feel fine by and large, but events like meeting newborns and preggie ladies are bound to trigger things. hope you feel better soon. mistle it's just not fair you had to hide your feelings about your pg and had to tiptoe around someone and now have it flaunted in your face.

emmsy so happy for you.

Hi all,

this thread is moving so fast - that I know I won't include everyone - apologies in advance:

quarkee well done on handling that comment. Good idea to have a 'standard' response that we can use without thinking about our response (if that makes sense) I hope you are feeling better - have the antibiotics kicked in yet?

bunny and scully interesting to hear about the acupuncture. I considered it but have decided to try reflexology for a little while - my first appointment is tomorrow. I can't wait!

emmsy congratulations - that is such good news

ClairePO I am sorry to hear about that group of friends I had a similair situation at that birthday party I went to on Saturday. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the party was 'fun' but it was not as bad as I thought...apart from the hour I spent next to the guy who went on and ON about how much he loved his baby son and I would never understand until I had a child of my own. I don't disagree with him, but would have prefered not to discuss it 8 days after I lost (what would have been) our first baby. Annoyingly - I know he knew about the miscarriage as he is married to a good friend of mine.

divedaisy and aliciajones I am very sorry you had to join us, but welcome. Our stories are similair, in that I miscarried at 10 weeks but the baby measured 6 - 7 weeks. It is very tough - but being here does help a little

spink I hope you are feeling a little better - I echo what others have said about the sadness creeping up on you at odd times. Sometimes now, I will eat something that was 'banned' in pregnancy and feel a little pang of regret that life is going on.

mollie So sorry to hear about your collague...I guess different people handle it in different ways but I do not think that you were being over-sensitive at all. Anyway - is there such a thing as over-sensitive post-m/c? Surely all of our feelings are valid and need processing.

Hello & happy thoughts to anyone I have missed!

These hormones are a pain....My skin is exploding right now - I feel like a teenager!! Anyone got any recommendations for zit-zapping?? (Although the idea of a 'Conception Spot made me smile!! I wouldn't mind a few of those!!)

notsonew hope you enjoy the reflexology tomorrow. after it took 22 months to conceive dd i tried reflexology from the new year and was pg within 6 weeks even though it ended in mmc last week i'm planning to continue and am going again on thurs. i found it really helped me to relax.

hi! to divedaisy and aliciajones i've only been on here a week but found it really helps.

Oh wow, I have been on the 2ww thread and need to catch up! (not read all posts yet) Hi to Feb Napa Daisy Alicia & welcome back to Lou
Sorry if I miss anyone off - it is fast moving and will catch up with the rest soon I hope.
Mrs Mattie - Huge congrats!
Emsy - so please about your scan - you must have wanted to dance round the room!
PrePG How was MIL on Sunday? You are so right about people not talking about mc then when you mention it, loads of people open up. The number of people who I know in RL is into double figures now and I only knew about 1 a year ago.
Mistle - we stayed in Salcombe last year - it was lovely little beach and house we rented was fab.
Mollie - I love Norfolk too, proposed to dh in Sheringham
Quarkee work flights can be a bugger. I have to fly to Italy on Thurs, back on Sun then to LAX on Tues, land back on Fri [need a knackered emoticon!]
Claire I went past my original EDD when af got me last month - tis a crappy feeling. Next edd was June so hoping will be pregnant at that point..
Anyway af still not turned up so am going to test in the morning - CB digi at the ready!!

BFP BFP BFP!!!!
Am so excited but dd just woken up so need to go and do breakfast duties now!

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Thinking stiky thoughts for you

Thanks Claire
Am having a slight panic now that I am due to be flying 4 times in the next 10 days. Is this really risky - am I mad? Thing is it's for work and I don't want to tell them yet!

congratulations, there is no evidence that flying causes problems in pregnancy, if you really don't want to go can you say you're ill?

Jackstini Congratulations missus. Really pleased for you but also a little Sending you sticky vibes though hun x x

Congratulations jack - great news. There seems no medical risk from flying in pregnancy - but I know what you mean about being nervous. I flew at 5 weeks pregnant and although I KNOW that it had nothing to do with my later miscarriage....I think that I will still try to avoid any business trips in next pregnancy. I found the flights the easy bit - it is the dragging social business dinners and extra-long stressful working days that I worry about!!

Hello everybody, just popping in to say congratulations to Jackstini Wonderful news! Come and join us on the Knickercheckers anonymous thread when you're ready.
Sorry to hear so many of you are having such a hard time with insensitive comments at the moment, they are very hard to deal with. I lost count of the amount of times I was told "Oh well, never mind, you can try again and it was obviously for the best" Yeah, right!
Emmsy Good to have you back and hope you had a good holiday.
All well here - 10+2 today and next scan is on 21/4 so just under 2 weeks to go. Feeling very sick late afternoons/evenings but trying not to grumble under the circumstances
Fingers crossed for some more BFPs soon.

Sounding good Cricri! will hunt down that thread.
NSNA - I know - am not looking forward to the long hours of standing and leaving my glass of wine untouched at dinner and hoping no-one notices
Mollie - you may still be joining me... - when are you testing? Or did the witch get you today?

Jackstini Congratulations!!!!!

congratulations Jackstini!!!!! Best of luck for a happy and healthy 9 months!!!

We didn't got to MIL's in the end, actually. DH was feeling flu-ish and thought it best to stay away from our nephew who's just come out of about a 3 month spell of chest infection, pneumonia, and cold after cold after cold, poor little guy! Can't say I wasn't happy about not having to go, though

Know what you mean about flying, my grandmother keeps trying to pin my miscarriage on the fact that I flew to NY just before 10 weeks, but I keep telling her fetus only measured 7, so it happened way before. All sources I've found say it's safe.

congrats cricri All sounds good!

PS: Have I mentioned that I O'd???? I O'd!!!! Completely took me by surprise because temps didn't seem high enough, but got in front of my computer on Monday morning armed with the weekend's temps, popped them in and out pops a coverline and O date!!! Last cycle - which was the one I got pg - my temps went triphasic, so when I stopped temping they were mostly in the 37 degree range. This cycle they had been in the low-ish to mid 36's. I guess I didn't remember that when I first O'd last cycle, temps ranged from about 36.36 - 36.6.

anyway, just so excited that all seems to be bouncing back and that AF will appear soon and then we can get down to some serious baby-making! hooray!

Prepg Congrats on OV'ing get off MN and get your dh into bed!
Jackstini No sign of AF today (so far) but not holding my breath, I'm trying to hold out and not test until I'm actually late coz I can't face the disappointment but it's killing me
May test tomorrow morning but I'm sure TEW will appear before then!

MollieMooma wish we could, but we agreed to wait one cycle after mc to try again. O'd last Thursday so too late anyway - I didn't even realize I had O'd until I charted my temps!

Prepg - congratulations on O'ing .

I thought AF had gone on Monday but she came back for an encore late that night and hasn't left me yet.

I ordered an ovulation microscope yesterday after reading about them on another conception thread. Apparently, you put a bit of saliva on the microscope and let it dry. If a fern like pattern appears you are ovulating!

Have also been reading up on the Billings Ovulation Method. The BOM can help you pin point ovulation even if your cycles are not regular.

Molliemooma will keep my fingers crossed that TEW won't appear - good luck. It takes a lot of will power not to test. I got a load of cheapy tests last time and tested whenever I felt the urge!

a big CONGRATULATIONS to Jackstini its about time we had another graduate from this thread! I think cricri was the last one and she is now 10wks 2day, sending you loads of sticky baby dust~~~~~~~~~~~~&~~~~~~~~~~~*~ XX
cricri can't believe how quickly it goes, I (according to the hosp) am now 11 wks 6days!! my next scan isn't until 9th June so quite a big wait until then, should be able to feel baby moving well before then! (could swear I have already felt flutters about 4 times, especially when I bend forwards, but probably medically impossible, so will have to put it down to?? don't really know what to put it down to!)glad all is going well with you, and hope that scan helps you to relax a little{smile]

big wave to everyone else! WAVE X