One year+ TTC part 3

[BritInNZ]

Hey ladies - new thread here we come! Changed it from 9 months+ seeing as we're pretty much all over a year of TTC now (boo!)

Feel free to add anyone else I may have forgotten 😊

@Carla2601
@lemons44
@LucyAnne34
@NatW2021
@Indianna2006
@KatieLooLa
@Hoping43
@Flyonthewall89

Newbies welcome too! Just a bunch of lovely ladies going through a tough time TTC and having a good old time venting and supporting one another 😊

How is everyone today? @Indianna2006 i hope your surgery goes ok. @BritInNZ so frustrating how different countries have different policies. How can letrozole be deemed to have a chance of success for ovulatory patients in NZ and not UK?! Surely it either works or it doesn’t.

@FlyOnTheWall89 you’ve been super quiet. Hope everything is ok xx

Also tagging @Tinkerbell098 x

@Hoping43 it's so weird hey! To be honest I prefer the NZ way - I'd rather give it a go as a last ditch attempt as it's not very expensive (my prescription was £7.50!). I know you ladies will probably agree that we'll give anything a go 😂 just went and picked up the letrozole now. Old me would have held out hope and got the prescription after AF arrived but I don't have much hope anymore so figured I'd just go and get it now.

Having a really good, calm, few weeks. To be honest we're not really TTC this month and have had zero timed DTD, which has been relaxing. I guess we're just in the frame of mind that we'll have a rest before we go full on at the end of the month. How's everyone else doing?

Oh and I also deleted Instagram! Which has done wonders for my mental health. Was sick of seeing babies, pregnant women and infertility accounts. It has really made me think about the whole situation heaps less.

@BritInNZ yeah I just don’t know anymore. I guess I wouldn’t mind trying the letrozole whilst we wait for IVF but I wouldn’t want to try it after 18 months when we are supposed to be moving to IVF in case it doesn’t work and it’s more time wasted. It’s so hard! I go through phases of deleting fb and Instagram but then they always call me back 😂. Glad to hear you’re feeling more relaxed x

@Hoping43 oh 100%! I'm only giving it a go because I don't have the option for publicly funded IVF for another 3 and a half years 😂 so anything I can do to not spend $12k I'll do it!

@BritInNZ i totally get that. We aren’t entitled to free IVF ever as we have 2 children so I’ll look forward to that cost 🙄😁

Hi all,

@Carla2601 How are your cramps? I hope you're ok.

I do have some news actually... we have our appointment booked with Dr Ramsay 🎉 although he is very busy and has annual leave so it is not until 28th June. I still feel good though for having it booked in.

In the meantime we are trying to push the GP for hormone bloods (they still haven't got back to me!) and I think we are just going to pay for the private chromosome, cystic fibrosis etc blood tests at the clinic near us. That way we figured we would have more to show Dr R when we go there in 7 weeks time.

@Indianna2006 how did the surgery go?

@KatieLooLa your dog is gorgeous!

@BritInNZ social media makes everything worse. I haven't reinstalled mine in months and I am so much happier.

Welcome to other newbies.

X

@lemons44 glad you have some good news. How is your partner doing? Xx

@lemons44 that’s great news! And yes I’d advise sending any results by email but also taking paper print outs with you for him to look at there and then. In a way it’s good it gives you plenty of time for diagnostics so you can go to him with everything. Will you get a scan too? He said our private one was useless so maybe NHS might do a better job not sure. I’m really pleased for you and great to have it in there (if you did want to bring it forward I kept calling and there was a cancellation so we only waited about 2 weeks in the end but not sure where you’re based and how easy it is so might not be good for you).

cramps have eased up thanks but I still feel like I don’t have enough symptoms. I think the cramps were constipation because one night in the middle of the night they got so bad I was yelping and then you can figure out the rest 😂😂😂. Since then I’ve been having this medicine that seems to have helped. So there you go, far tmi!!

happy Friday everyone x

@lemons44 as well as to be expected as far as I’m aware. All the nurses and theatre staff were lovely and looked after me well.
i out like a light from the anaesthetic and came round in recovery. And was allowed home an hour later. Altho felt very groggy and my blood pressure was low. So have been at a tortoise pace.

have had some very bad period cramps on and off. And overnight. So just keeping an eyes on it and taking it easy.
mice had pain on and off for 3 weeks now but been messed about with so much. I imagine everything needs a while to settle.

i cannot explain how much I just want to feel normal and like my old self and not be in pain.

and actually have SEX. It’s been 4 weeks. Think poor DHs part will of fallen off from shock 😂😂

but need to make sure I’m recovered and well first. Hopefully soon 🤞🏼I do not need any more complications.

great news on your appointment with Dr Ramsey!

@Carla2601 I always get constipated in pregnancy pretty early. By 6 weeks it’s taken effect and now im blocked up cos of all these crazy hormones.
i took fybogel drink whilst pregnant which was great and kept me going properly.

@Hoping43 DH has still been struggling. I wish there was like a mumsnet for men because I think he could really do with a bit of a support network tbh.

We had our first disagreement yesterday since the doomsday zero sperm news. We'd decided we would tell our parents this weekend as we haven't told anybody anything yet and we thought maybe it was time to let our parents know (mainly so they don't make any insensitive comments about waiting for grandchildren).

I am really open and honest with my parents and wanted to tell them everything. However DH didn't think we should tell them the detail of the problem, and just tell our parents it's male factor and we're seeking more tests.

I then got a bit annoyed because I felt like it wasn't fair to make me censor what I tell my parents, especially when this effects me just as much as him.... and he got a bit annoyed that I wanted to tell them his private medical information.

It was a bit of an awkward stand off and I didn't really know which one of us was being unreasonable. In the end I read some articles about how to tell people about infertility and most of them actually did say it was important not to disclose your partners medical information.

@Carla2601 glad you are ok. Nothing is TMI in this group! 💩

Yes I think we are going to ask for an NHS ultrasound because we have like 7 weeks and May as well make the most of the time! Thanks for the tip about printing stuff off... I had already taken your notebook tip and have a notepad dedicated to our fertility test notes... complete with checklist at the start for all the tests DH needs done!

We are also going to book another semen analysis I think just before we see Dr R as by then it will be about 2-2.5 months since his first one and the clinic did recommended retesting. To be honest I am not expecting there to be any sperm still... but I thought if it gives Dr R more evidence then we should.

We've also gone crazy with the vitamins, which considering there was no sperm to improve I think is pointless. However once again, I just figured it's another thing to tick off and will mean by the time DH has his second SA we can tell Dr R that it was after taking all the vitamins for two months. We paid out for that proxeed which costs a fortune but I know it's what Dr R recommends as I saw he was in a video talking about them. I even bought DH a pill box to keep all the vitamins in 😂

@Indianna2006 im glad that it is over with and I really hope you're able to recover quickly and put it all behind you. It's been such a crappy time for you. I hope you have a weekend full of some rest and TLC!

Omg that was such a long message... sorry girls! Didn't realise how long it was until I posted.

@lemons44 Thank you! She knows she is though 😂 X

@lemons44 it must be hard for him from a self confidence point of view I guess. I think men tend to be more private. My husband hasn’t told anyone about our issues but I’ve told so many people now. He says it should be private. But I need to talk to people to get through. I reckon if we had male factor, he definitely wouldn’t be up for me discussing that with people x

@lemons44 weirdly my OH (out of character) told more people than I did. I think because it was something he was born without that kind of helped a bit but everyone is different. It’s totally normal to have some arguments and difficult days and I’m sure you’ll find a compromise that works for both of you so you can both get the support you need.

The vitamins aren’t wasted at all, hopefully there’s loads in there it just isn’t getting out so when they get it out you’re just making sure it’s tip top ☺️. And yes they did two samples for us (although about 2 days apart because his doc thought it was a mistake result).

@Hoping43 we dont have any children and we didn’t get any funding because the hospital forgot to file it and we’d had enough of waiting. You can pay for letrozole here (it’s just they normally start with clomid here) so if you want to try it just ask.

@Indianna2006 hope you’re resting and recovering and being well looked after and that things get back to a bit more normal for you super soon, glad the op is all done x

Hey Ladies - hope everyone is doing ok. I am having a bit if weird one I'm due my period today/tomorrow and my body/mind is playing tricks on me I'm having back pain/period cramps but then my boobs are sore, i feel sick, my bbt is down then up - i haven't got any tests in and i am 99% sure AF is coming so dont want to waste time/money but you know when you just want it arrive to eliminate the 1% of hope and symptom spotting!

@lemons44 great to hear you have an appointment booked it - least its something to aim towards and it will be here in no time. X

@Indianna2006 - hope you are resting, hopefully you will recover quickly and things return to normal soon. Xx

@Carla2601 - glad you are feeling well, how many weeks are you niw? X

@Carla2601 thank you. I’m going to get day 21 bloods done and if it is positive for ovulation again then I’m going to accept that I am ovulating and that ovulation induction isn’t right for me. Guess we will have to keep trying longer. The only thing we haven’t had done is a laparoscopy but not sure I’ll be able to convince the consultant on that.

@lemons44 @Carla2601 @FlyOnTheWall89 please can someone give any insight on the recommendation of proxeed? Our SA results are all within normal parameters but I’m intrigued. TIA

@NatW2021 ah it’s the worst. I always had those dipping sticks in (super cheap for like 40
on Amazon) they say they don’t work early but now I’ve tried them they do so you could get those (but then it’s tempting). I will be keeping absolutely everything crossed that the 1% is right.

Almost 7 weeks now - heartbeat scan on Tuesday. Absolutely terrified but also can’t wait. Weird eh

Sorry for the radio silence ladies, I’ve just come back from holiday all refreshed but tired at the same time. Took my mind off anything to do with TTC which was great.
didn’t realise our old thread got filled up whilst I was away!

@Carla2601 thanks for the tag. Hope you’re feeling better now. I’m sure everything is fine but I understand the worrying. All the best for Tuesday! Not long to go xx

@Indianna2006 im sorry you had to go through surgery. Hope you’ve recovered now and resting.

@lemons44 glad you’ve got an appointment sorted and a plan for further tests.

@BritInNZ hope you’ve settled in well in your new house. Good luck with your first medicated cycle.

@NatW2021 hope AF stays away for you. Would you test in the morning? When do you fly out?

@Carla2601 I know really really trying to not get my hopes up as think its just pms. Hope everything goes well Tuesday, i bet its a mixture of nervous/excitement! X

@Tinkerbell098 - Welcome back! Hope you had a lovely break away. Did you go anywhere nice? I go on holiday next Wednesday i cant wait. Ill see how my bbt is in the morning or i may start AF tonight/tomorrow. Just keep telling myself its just PMS as i am due and I'm getting cramps so highly likely its just AF. X

@Carla2601 @Tinkerbell098 - My bbt dropped of the end of a cliff and when i went the toilet AF arrived i am upset, another month down. This is the last month i do BBT as i am just sick of all of this. Least i have my holiday to focus on now. Xx

@NatW2021 im really sorry - it’s even worse when your body gives you that little bit of hope. I never did bbt as it wouldn’t work with my job doing the same time every day but I can imagine it makes everything even more intense. When do you fly? Hope you’ve treated yourself to some cute new holiday bits!

@Tinkerbell098 where were you and was it lovely? Welcome back!

@Carla2601 - i know, it really is the worst, i am so fed up i just cant see an end to this. Without sounding like i am feeling sorry for myself i am just going to focus on weight loss and give up alcohol after my holiday in preparation for IVF as i just have a strong feeling thats the way its going. I fly next Wednesday -

i also just booked another holiday for July to Greece as we had some holiday credit to use from when we cancelled a holiday during covid - i think i am going into distraction mode to get me through this as i am finding it really tough. X