IVFers thread

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Anyone fancy starting an ongoing thread for those who are having IVF/ are planning to try again via IVF soon?

Ds was conceived via IVF - he's now 2.6 and we're stepping back on the scary rollercoaster ride with a FET - I started taking the drugs yesterday!

hi EMH

Good luck EHM lets hope its our time.

One week to go and everyting crossed.

Let me know how you get on.

Hi

I am 40 this year and have been trying since I was 25 its been a long road which isn't yet coming to an end.

Just keeping everything crossed at present.

I think I am convincing myself I am pregnant as I am feeling exactly as I did over a year ago when I fell pregnant for the first time.

My test in on the 17th March and counting

Are you going to try again ?

Take care Malaket x

malakat I have everything x for you.sorry to hear about your mc last year.life just really isn't fare.keep me posted. what part of the country are you in. I am in the South East & We had our transfer at the Lgfc.

Hi EHM and Malakat keeping everything crossed for you both on the 2WW.

Just waiting for af to arrive and then another cycle before trying FET at end of April!

Had a lovely weekend, didn't have to see MIL which was a huge relief. She's off in a tizzy about some builders she should have paid and didn't and they took her to small claims, she lost and now she wants to appeal. So hugely pleased we didn't have to sit through lunch with her.

Found a School for DS!

Hope everyone else had a good weekend, how are you SS?

hello everyone especially those on 2ww,

swerve I really hope you had a bfp yesterday? even if you didn't i'm sending you lots and lots of good wishes.

malaket, it sounds like you have been on a long haul, it took 12 years and a m/c with our first IVF cycle before DD was conceived. It can happen even after all that time so fingers crossed for you to be successful this time.

I've started injections (last Friday) with a view to EC on 8th April etc etc. Does anyone else find that they go into the worst mood ever when doing this, I'm like a caged animal snarling at all who pass by, it's terrible but I just don't seem to be able to calm down. I don't know if it's the stress or the drugs - or both!

I agree with others re Chlomid for someone who's had recurrant m/c, doesn't make sense. Is your friend going to feel able to challenge the doctor if she needs to? I hope so.

hi all- sorry to bust into your thread. I have been TTC for 2 years (mmc 13 weeks in OCt06 then nothing) have been on clomid, had lap and dye, ovarian diathermy etc etc. I have now been told IVF is the next step. I'm now totally confused as I've been told many different things, mainly because I was a private patient but now NHS. I am turning 34 very soon. I have heard that NHS won't do IVF after 35. Is that true? Any ideas about how many rounds given on the NHS (I'm in Oxford)? and also, an ideas about the waiting list? I've tried to ask these questions, but am getting nowhere. Any thoughts would be very gratefully accepted.

Again, sorry for busting in, but I thought you ladies might be a real source of wisdom. I have a few friends who have done/ are on IVF, but all were private.

Hi Lulu - can you find the website for your local NHS anywhere as this will tell you their criteria for treatment
this is the one for my local

I think 39 is the cut off for most NHS IVF, so please don't panic. Number of rounds should be 3, can often be one. If you can find the name of the clinics (or may even be a hospital) that provide IVF on the NHS where you are, you could call them and ask what the waiting times are. Finally, I found my NHS fertility consultant's secretary knew the answers to all these questions and was frankly a good deal easier to reach than the consultant.

sorry, must dash, Soosy lovely to see you again.

Hi Malaket here

We had 1 free NHS and then have had to fund the other attempts ourselves.

We had to fight for our free one but we did manage to get it.

There were certain criterias they requested ,if your lucky enough to get a free one and it is only the one.

Not sure about the age thing for the NHS but we did our free NHS through the JR at Oxford where we have all our past treaments.

This time we transferred our eggs to the Chiltern in Amersham, we thought a change would be as good as the rest.

Regards
Malaket x x

thanks, only and malaket.

I will be going to the JR at Oxford too- so I guess one cycle is all we get. My GP thought it was 3. I've been ringing around and nobody can seem to find my notes! Trying not to get too worked up.

Malaket- why did you have to fight for your one free one?

Hi Lulu

We had to fight for ours because our borough said they didn't have the funding for it, which was terrrible seeing we both fitted the criteria. We had to contact our MP who managed to fight for this on our behalf.

We fitted the criteria which was as follows:-

we were both under 40
didn't somke
never had IVF treatment before
didn't have any other children from previous relationships.

We got it in the end, about 3/4 months of fighting, more added stress which we can all do without!!!

There lovley at the JR but felt we needed a change.

Hope this helps.

Malaket

Lulu - I think it depends on the area as to how they treat funding - we were on the waiting list for our "free" IVF treatment a while ago, and decided to jump the queue and go privately. I told the NHS we were doing this (as in our area once you paid for IVF you weren't allowed the NHS cycle) and our call up for the "free" IVF arrived when I was 19 weeks pregnant. The NHS got quite shirty with me when I explained and said I ought to have told them! It turned out that when the funding is allocated every April, there was only enough for 60 couples to have treatment, so as we had backed out it meant another couple could have treatment that year. Maybe that is how the funding works where you are?

Thanks, Only and Malaket. I'm still getting the run around, but they said they are trying to locate my notes and will let me know.

Malaket- I can't believe you had to fight for NHS treatment since you fit the criteria. Sounds like we do too. Good luck to you.

Only- great news that it worked for you in the end.

I really appreciate your thoughts.

hi all, thanks for all your messages and thoughts. I'm sitting here with a big fat g&t... says it all. f**k. we've got 2 good ones in the freezer so i guess we'll try those next.

locket: i hope it goes well. bring on those follicules & make them good ones!

lulu: what a nightmare having to fight for treatment. Is it all just lip service to the criteria? I hope you get it sorted.

Lulu, we had one NHS cycle, but we have been able to self fund our treatment, which is not private, but paying for NHS treatment, so it is cheaper than attending a private clinic. We have not been stopped from self funding either even though we now have a child! It seems that different trusts run different programmes, which means the "NICE" fairer one free cycle for everyone is complete bo**ocks, (excuse my language). It sounds like you have to fight for everything, and then they manage to make you feel more stressed by losing notes, forgetting to call you back or charging you for stuff you though was NHS (and you pay for already!) I have spent wait for it £75,000, it may well be more, (i daren't add it all up) on having my one child! (that includes having him privately as after spending seven years and 10 ivf attempts I wanted everything to be ok.) But if I were to spend seven years and have 10 abortions they would all be free. I think the Red Queen and I had this discussion before.

Swerve, enjoy the G and T, what are your plans for the Frosties. I am going for it at the middle to end April (have been pg twice in April and one chemical pg in May/june, so pbviously a good time of year for me. My only worry is that it was five years between my first two pg's, I hope its not another year from now before I get pg again!

Has anybody transferred Frosties?

OAP good to see you too, how's the weight loss going? mine is not at all. I am not overweight, but my cycle shortens when I lose weight, which seems to work in my favour, but to do it I have to truly starve, not appealing given present weather!

Bambi sorry those hormones going wild, but if it does the trick then it will be worth it!.

SS where are you are you sunning yourself somewhere lovely.

Sx

sorry not caught up with thread. just wanted to say day 9 of 2ww. will keep you all posted. Hope you are all well, looking after yourselvess. hello to anybody new since my last post.

soosy just read your post £75K! wow

we had frosties transfered on 3rd & dd was a frostie.the frosties are all from the same batch. we have 2 left in storage.

hi guys

Im on day 9 of 2ww and its killing me, really tempted to do a test but know its probably to early, what do you all think ?

This is the worst part, I can deal with the treatment but its this 2ww that does me.

Just fancied a moan, working at present and cant concentrate on anything!!!!

Still have lots of cramping and twinging going on, I am hoping and praying its a positive sign.

Hi everyone

Malaket, I had cramping and twinging when I was pg with gp

Soosy - 75K that is a lot but worth it of course! I've just put aside 10K for 3 rounds this year and have already spent 9.5K on two fresh rounds & one FT

don't get me started on the NHS - my other half had a child with a woman when he was very young and she has taken the child back to the Ukraine - he has no idea where they are and has never had any contact at all BUT guess what, the fact that the child exists meant that we couldn't get NHS treatment - AAAAHHH - still makes me angry years later...we waited something like 3 years on a NHS waiting list in London moved to East Sussex and no longer fulfilled critera AAAAHHHHH - like I said before, I have PCOS and endometriosis, these are illnesses the side effect of which for me is infertility, and in my book its one of the most devastating side effects any illness can affect adn it should be treated by teh nhs on the nhs,... can't even type straight it p*ses ne ofoff so mcuh!"

Anyway, everything is p ing me off due to effects of buserilin and haven't even been injecting for a week yet! God help me by April!

SWERVE! so sorry it didn't work this time - it's so so disappointing you think that the world should come to a halt and it doesn't. Good luck with deciding what to do next.

Got to go, fingers crossed for those still on 2ww.
x

Sorry I wasn't very clear about the transferring frosties, I meant from one clinic to another for different treatment, I just wondered if it was possible.

Bambilocket It is a hideous amount of money and although I would spend it again to have DS it does get me cross when some spotty teenager gets pg and gets loads of help from the government, but as a responsible married couple we cannot get any help to have a child. More NHS bashing!

Hope everyone on the 2WW had a restful day and was not blown away. Has anyone heard from SS?

S x

oopssoosy sorry we store our frosties at one clinic, they also did egg collection. We have our consultation at another as they have an agreement Not sure about moving frosties between clinics. Are you really unhappy with your current clinic?

dont get me started on NHS & funding for everything other than IVF.

No EHM not unhappy at all, it's just my consultant says that there are other treatments that may help, and our hospital doesn't offer these treatments as they are as yet 'unproven'. So it was our consultant who suggested a second opinion and I just wondered if we could take our frosties with us and start treatment with frozen cycle so that I wouldn't have to do another lot of ivf, as it would be my 15th cycle and the one before last and I finding it increasingly more difficult.

I wonder if I could have transfer etc at current hospital and other treatment at another clinic......

Hi Soosy

We have been with the JR in Oxford for nearly 5 years and we decided we wanted a change.
There wasn't anything wrong with the JR we just fancied a change and a different view from a completely different consultant.

We had 3 frosties left at the JR and transferred them ourselves as they were going to charge us to do this if we hadn't, yes more bloody money. We arranged collection and then took them straight over to the new hospital.

The JR were fine with transferring the frosties over and the Chiltern in Bucks stored them for us there at the beginng of this year until we were ready to start our next frozen cycle.

Good luck.

Thanks Malaket, how did you do the transfer, as obviously you don't want them to defrost and what were they going to charge you.