Post Pill Party - Cocktail Club

[MissC07]

After a chilled garden soiree, it's time to shake things up and head to the cocktail club. Let's get into the spirit(s) - it's a whiskey business TTC so if you're feeling pretty fly grab a Mai Tai and have yourself some Sex on the Beach. Fingers crossed we get some BFP's and keep the Bloody Mary's away. Let the celebrations be-Gin!! Time flys when your having Rum!

Welcome to the 11th (!) post pill party thread for women who have recently come off the pill. Where we can all come and discuss the highs and lows of TTC.

Ladies already at the soiree:

@ChinChilly
@Juno231
@TheHotelCalifornia
@Moocher90
@Flowers222
@feliznavidad2
@MissM94
@Cams50
@HRHXO
@Kay00
@AllyCat31
@LauraT94
@Gracie2021
@FlyingGiraffe
@Emmgrem
@Tillybabs
@Kat668
@TheDaydreamBelievers
@mrsmacmc
@Ttcin2021
@pineapple2021
@MrsHInch
@Lovebug06
@JT90
@Sperr
@MancMama39
@Nellieee
@Robyn101
@LG93
@minipilling
@WhirlingD
@Springflower3
@crabette
@CaptainGT
@abi555
@ChillysT
@firsttimemummy321

Please tag anyone I’ve missed!

@Lovebug06 sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time :( as you know a lot of this thread feel the same way! All we want to do is become mothers x big hugs to you x

So my OPKS are low now after my peak so I’m really hoping my body ovulated and I wake up to a high temperature in the morning x I’ve got a hen do next weekend that involves staying in a lodge of two groups of 6 and drinking cocktails and sitting in hot tubs xx looking forward to the break away but would make my day if I found out I was pregnant. My RHR is sky high more so then ever….

@Kat668 good luck for the TWW

Thankyou @Sunshinedaisybuttermellow

@Moocher90 good luck for ovulation

@Juno231 not ideal regarding the appt but good they are starting the process now to get the ball rolling!

Sorry to hear that @Lovebug06 sending love

CD11 for me today. DTD this morning. OPK negative this morn and this afternoon but I do have egg white discharge, should this mean that ovulation is imminent and I should expect to see a peak on OPKs soon? Feel very out of touch with this all now, I was like a scientist last time 😂

@CharWils It certainly means your body is gearing up for it. EWCM is caused by oestrogen so it would be giving you flashing smileys on the CB alerting you to BD. It could still be a few days off though, at times I have 5 days of EWCM before a peak OPK.

@Moocher90 I think ahead like that as well - this cycle I keep thinking it would be amazing if I got a bfp on Sunday for father's day....

@Juno231 brilliant so I shouldn't be alarmed with no positive opk at the moment.

Should I DTD every day or every other day? I think I did every other day last time but was thinking every day would be better but read something about abstinence causing better sperm quality if every other day?

@charwils every other day vs every day doesn't really matter unless OH has a low count - in which case every 2-3 days is recommended. Personally I go for every other as OH does lose his mojo and I'd hate for him to not be in the mood by the time the peak actually comes round.

My HyCoSy is booked for Tuesday 22nd ... so soon! Feels like progress though. I'm hoping it is able to provide some answers, but I'm hoping it doesn't show anything that isn't un-fixable. I'm also concerned that I might still be on my period (i'll be CD7, so thats no unheard of for me).... as surely no one wants to have to have to deal with my AF Floof! But apparently they will... they're 'used to it'!

@Juno231 that sounds rubbish! At least they are starting the process for IVF now though I suppose, so positive in that respect.

@Lovebug06 sorry AF got you .

@Moocher90 will you test before the hen party or afterwards?

Thanks @Juno231

No risk of that with my OH he has barely been getting any since we lost Jack so I think he will take full advantage of me actually saying yes in the fertile window 😂

@Sunshinedaisybuttermellow I think I will only be 8DPO on Friday when I go so probably not enough for a positive test so maybe just have to wait until the Sunday. That’s on the basis i ovulate 2mo. I will feel conflicted though as what if I am pregnant and drink and also use the hot tub? AF isn’t due until 6th July. At the mo I’m having 30 day cycles

@Moocher90 I think you would be fine if you were pregnant tbh. I've read that the placenta doesn't form or work properly until around 6 weeks, so anything you eat or drink before that wouldn't pass to baby. I can't see the hot tub being an issue that early either really.

So my temp is up today from 36.21 to 36.33… got to wait a few days for FF to give me my crosshairs though

@Moocher90 @Sunshinedaisybuttermellow 8 weeks even for the placenta! Also my friends back in Sweden all take really hot baths and have no idea what I'm talking about when I say it's not recommended here.

That's not much of a temp rise though moocher - is that normal for you? Guidance is 0.3C rise.

@Juno231 that’s a higher one for me as my previous 6 are lower.

Will attach my chart

@Moocher90 @Sunshinedaisybuttermellow alcohol does unfortunately have an impact on implantation and likelihood of 'sticking' eg early miscarriage - obviously they are small effect sizes (so the risk only increases a tiny bit) and its mostly high amounts of alcohol that would have an impact! (source - used to work in a relevant research field)

Sorry, I should add that many many women drink alcohol in the 2WW and nonetheless conceive, and there are many social factors that make it very hard not to drink in the TWW or in early pregnancy

This link is very medical/sciencey but is helpful in terms of the timelines of exposure - unfortunately definitely alcohol can have negative impacts before placenta is formed embryo.asu.edu/pages/developmental-timeline-alcohol-induced-birth-defects

Hey ladies!

Hope you are all keeping cool with this ☀️ weather! Wee update from me. Finally got my Progesterone blood test result which was 16.2. Dr advised was a little below normal which they class as 20+. When I asked more questions I got the 'old' card played, maybe just missed the true peak along with women don't ovulate every month 🤷‍♀️ all of which I already knew? I asked to get it redone this cycle and was told it wouldn't change anything as my OPK sticks are turning and there is a referral away to the fertility clinic / DH being checked with SA request away 🥴

@TheDaydreamBelievers many thanks for the information, its really good to be properly informed!

@mrsmacmc That certainly is less than ideal progesterone levels, do you know what DPO you were when you had it done? Its good they are sending OH for a SA and that referral to fertility clinic is on the cards for you xx

@Kay00 I was 4DPO, cycle was 26 days which is normal for me. When I booked the test the Dr told me to count back 7 days from anticipated AF. According to my OPK my peak was CD16. The Dr I spoke with to get my result isn't my preferred one as she is very cold and doesn't like patients asking questions. Had dealings with her in the past when I had shingles - Spanish Inquisition when I asked to be signed off as still wasn't right after my 7 days self cert.

@mrsmacmc Sounds like your progesterone was on the right track then considering the timings - either way they don't seem to care much and will refer you to a fertility clinic which is what counts!

@TheDaydreamBelievers fair point on the implantation, people often forget that part!

@Moocher90 it looks on track then!

@kay00 what happened to AF? Have your temps dropped?

7DPO here, RHR has plummeted today and temp has gone up to 36.80. Just waiting until Sunday when I'll test!

Def got a job offer coming next week which I'm so happy about as I'm desperate to leave - let's just hope it's a good offer!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Progesterone_during_menstrual_cycle.png

Based on this chart at 4DPO you would expect your progesterone to be just above 20 nmol/L, and at 7DPO it might have risen to close to 30, so it does look a little low. But I guess not everyone follows a neat curve, so its possible you have ovulated but your curve could have been a different shape (slow rise for example). Its hard to tell when you don't know your exact ovulation date and you did the test so early in your LP.

If anything it might build the case for giving you something like Clomid + Progesterone when you go to the fertility clinic, assuming your OH's AM comes back within range. Fingers crossed!

@Juno231 My temp finally dropped today, so I'm either CD3 or CD1? I had very minimal spotting yesterday but lots of cramping, and my full flow has really kicked in today. Either way I'm getting my HyCoSy on Tuesday at either 5DPO or 7DPO.

Exciting news about the job offer! Is it something you are very excited about? Is it in the same industry/similar position or is this a big change for you?

@TheDaydreamBelievers thats really interesting, I always thought it didn't make much difference early on. Good to know though!

@Juno231 ooh congrats on the job offer coming! Hopefully it's a good one, what area do you work in?

@Kay00 if bleeding only stayed properly today I would count today as cd1. How many dpo was it today when AF showed?

@Kay00 & @Juno231 thank you. This is why I really appreciate this group ❤️

It was the patronising'keep trying, it'll happen' parting comment she made - does she have a crystal ball 🔮

Is there anything I can do to boost progesterone while waiting on referral to fertility clinic?