Post Pill Party - Cocktail Club

[MissC07]

After a chilled garden soiree, it's time to shake things up and head to the cocktail club. Let's get into the spirit(s) - it's a whiskey business TTC so if you're feeling pretty fly grab a Mai Tai and have yourself some Sex on the Beach. Fingers crossed we get some BFP's and keep the Bloody Mary's away. Let the celebrations be-Gin!! Time flys when your having Rum!

Welcome to the 11th (!) post pill party thread for women who have recently come off the pill. Where we can all come and discuss the highs and lows of TTC.

Ladies already at the soiree:

@ChinChilly
@Juno231
@TheHotelCalifornia
@Moocher90
@Flowers222
@feliznavidad2
@MissM94
@Cams50
@HRHXO
@Kay00
@AllyCat31
@LauraT94
@Gracie2021
@FlyingGiraffe
@Emmgrem
@Tillybabs
@Kat668
@TheDaydreamBelievers
@mrsmacmc
@Ttcin2021
@pineapple2021
@MrsHInch
@Lovebug06
@JT90
@Sperr
@MancMama39
@Nellieee
@Robyn101
@LG93
@minipilling
@WhirlingD
@Springflower3
@crabette
@CaptainGT
@abi555
@ChillysT
@firsttimemummy321

Please tag anyone I’ve missed!

Ooh hello everyone, I didn’t realise there was a post pill party and wish I’d joined earlier! I’m going to read back a bit to try and learn a bit about you all but quick intro from me -

Ttc baby no 2. Came off mini pill 27 April, had withdrawal bleed 1-4 June and nothing since! Counting cycle day 1 as 1 June I’m now on cycle day 34.... last time I came off the combined pill my cycles were 42 days but did manage to fall pregnant with those long cycles. Who knows what is going on this time?! 🙈

Hey guys just come off cerazette mini pill 6 days ago or so and half of the day I can feel great at work and then I get down and crazy mood swings... also I’ll have loads of energy and then randomly it’s gone and I am exhausted. I think it’s pill as I didn’t feel like this before. Someone recommended evening primrose oil. Please help.

@Juno231 I was using Ovia app until a couple of days ago so transposed the temps across. So actually they were all taken at about 0730. But let's face it, you can't take much away from that chart!

You are right of course, it's not a proper temp rise, but I remain optimistic for the next few days. I haven't seen a single biphasic shift since coming off the pill in Jan (although sadly I've only had one period!) so I'm avoiding the probably painful truth that I haven't ovulated in about 5 years. If no temp rise in next few days then I'll book a docs appt or fork out for the private fertility MOT. I was thinking I might order a medichecks 21 day progesterone test as it's only £40.

I know some temp fluctuations can be minute and I'm wondering if I'm one of those people who has no discernible rise. I was reading the NHS guidelines last night (must have been bored) and it keeps saying temping is not reliable and shouldn't be used. I just can't square the circle of the medical world completely ignoring something that has been proven in countless peer reviewed articles. I wonder if anyone has a view on this. I'd be interested. I've heard doctors are very dismissive of temping.

Was also reading all the literature on ovusense. It seems seriously impressive. I might order that too. May as well add to the £££ I already spend on fertility stuff!!

@Vikkibadger I'd persevere a bit longer. It will pass. I had 3 weeks of debilitating night sweats. But they disappeared.

I meant withdrawal bleed 1-4 May sorry!

Thank you so much for the friendly welcome @Juno231 @WhirlingD @TheDaydreamBelievers and sorry if I missed anyone else. Although it’s frustrating, it’s reassuring to hear that others have been/are in the same boat!

@Vikkibadger My skin has been horrendous since coming off the pill which I’m guessing is down to hormones, but it seems to be settling a bit more now I’m a few months pill-free.

@WhirlingD have you had periods? But unovulatory cycles? Sorry still getting to grips with how it all works ha.

I’ve attached my chart for this cycle - as you can see it’s a spiky mess with no ovulation yet, FF is predicting the weekend so I hope it happens just to have some level of regularity, even if that ‘regular cycle’ is 54 days long.

This was the cycle before, long but at least ovulation seems to be happening. Just hope it happens soon this cycle as I’m already on day 39 :(

@JoeMalon3y just seen you’ve come off mini pill too. I wonder how long it will take for AF to arrive! I’ve only been off it since 27 April

@SkeletonSkins withdrawal bleed straight away, then first real period after 101 days. On CD31 of 2nd cycle now. Positive OPK yesterday so fingers crossed.

Welcome @vikkibadger @sunshine8888 !

@vikki For the mood swings I would say hang in there! Your pill has been keeping all your hormones at a consistent level for years, stopping you from having estrogen and progesterone surges, so it's very likely your body is just having a bit of a wobble in response to these 'new' hormones!

@whirlingD hmmm... no ovulation since Jan. I'd say the fertility MOT sounds like a good place to start. The progesterone might not be much help though if you haven't ovulated.

I would imagine a lot of doctors are dismissive of temping as there are a lot of variables that are uncontrollable. But its interesting how many women are able to track temps and notice a temp rise around two weeks before they start AF and also around the time they get CM etc. It's very possible you could be ovulating but not getting the temp rise, maybe the progesterone will help work that out?

Hi everyone,

Nice to see some newbies and some of you in the TWW

Just a little update from me, I had a private scan today, measuring at 6+4 which is a bit behind what I thought I was but she said it's really unreliable at this stage because it is so small but we saw a flickering heartbeat so that was nice. I've got my nhs dating scan on the 29/06 so hopefully will see more than an jelly bean shape!

Hope everyone is well!

Awww congrats @Chinchilly that's lovely news 🥰

I haven't even had a withdrawal bleed yet so I have no idea...I'm hoping sooner rather than later so I can figure out the cycle tracking side of things 😂 @Sunshine8888 I feel wayyyyy out if my depth with this all...My OH thinks babies come out thin air by the way he talks about it all.

Hi ladies, I'm getting my 1st jab tomorrow (Friday) and I'll be in my TWW (4dpo).

Has anyone else had their jab in the TWW? If so, how did it effect your cycle (if at all)?

@ChinChilly that's amazing! Very happy for you 😍

@Kay00 I had my first Pfizer jab in February and it didn't do anything to my cycle, had my second one in May, was due on on Tuesday 4th May, had the jab Wednesday 5th of may and haven't been on my period since 🙃 don't know if it's just coincidence or if it genuinely has affected my cycle. My first dose was on 17/02 and came on my period 2/3 and that cycle was a standard 35 day one.. so god knows haha

@chinchilly great news on the private scan wishing u all the best! Make sure you keep us updated x

Don't know where else to post this but why do some threads start off with "I've named changed" what does it matter and why do they need to tell us? Haha I'm so confused

@ChinChilly I recognise your name from stalking this thread before I joined and jsut wanted to say congratulations, so amazing that you’ve seen the heartbeat!

No idea what’s going on with my body. Just been to the loo and there was blood - not tons but not tiny amounts either. TMI but it was almost mixed in with EWCM which makes me wonder if it’s ovulation? But I do feel quite periody and I didn’t have ovulation pain/blood in the past two cycles. I ovulated around this day (cycle day 40) in my previous two cycles so either I’m sticking to that pattern or my body’s thought forget it and AF is abojt to arrive without an ovulation. I did have what I think was a failed attempt at ovulation around 14 days ago so who knows what’s going on.

I should add we’re not trying until the next cycle due to work/Mat pay issues so either way it doesn’t really matter, I think I’d just rather ovulate if possible as I know I’ll worry I’m never going to ovulate again if I don’t this month, with having PCOS too.

Hi everyone! I hope you don’t mind me gate crashing - old fashioned for me please!! Or just a whiskey neat at this rate!!

I came off the pill in December a few weeks after i got married. Dh and i werent planning to start trying to next year but as someone with pcos and being on the pill for 12ish years, i decided to come off it and get to know my cycles before ttc!

My cycles so far have been 45, 42 & 34. This cycle we decided to start ttc and not wait to next year. I am now on day 45 of this cycle! That last cycle at 34 days gave me false hope for this first month ttc#1! I am so frustrated! No bfn or sign of af!!

No sign of bfp that was meant to say!

@CTMcG Welcome! You have certainly joined the right place, there are many many of us who had frustratingly long cycles!

@SkeletonSkins The blood could be ovulation spotting, or just some random spotting (I get this, its called cervical erosion, and I don't think its anything to worry about). You said you are temping and you had a failed ovulation attempt about 2 weeks ago, but didn't get a temp increase? Is that right?

@WhirlingD I think the reason temping is deemed unreliable by the NHS is that there is a lot of scope for user error. People not understanding the impact of alcohol, too little sleep, taking inaccurate readings etc. I've seen ladies on MN using forehead temps and then getting stumped by their BBT, and my favourite - a lady who left the protective silicone cap on the thermometer and didn't realise until I pointed out that her temps were indicative of hypothermia so she must be doing something wrong lol. MOT sounds wise but skip the progesterone test I'd say. It would be good to see what your LH/FSH ratio is in case these cycles are due to pcos.

Welcome to all newbies!! As a recap - I came off the pill in Sep 2019 but settled into fairly regular cycles straight away. I did instead suffer with pizza face and greasy hair until about Dec 2020 though! I've since been diagnosed with unexplained infertility but still plodding along here as I love these gals :)

@kay00 I had mine at 7dpo last cycle - it caused me to bleed (a lot) at 10dpo and then I had AF come as usual at 13dpo. I've read random bleeds are common post jab and that even post menopausal women have gotten it.

@ChinChilly great news!! The next scan feels ages away though Have you booked your booking in appointment with the midwife as well? Must be so exciting!

@Kay00 yes that’s right, well I’ve had a couple of failed attempts I think, where I get EWCM and my temp rises but then it just crashes again. Temps dipped slightly today so guess we’ll see if it goes up tomorrow. Not hugely optimistic to be honest!

@skeletonskins thats exactly what mu body does... I get EWCM, my cervix goes soft and high and I even get a temp increase, then it all crashes back down. I would usually get several attempts before I finally ovulated. This cycle and my previous cycle I appear to have ovulated on the first attempt however, and im putting that down to the Conceive plus tablets I'm taking.... they seem really good!