Recent MC - New cycles & trying again Thread 2

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A thread for all the amazing strong ladies who have recently experienced a mc/mmc but are braving it to try again! Fingers crossed for a lucky one for us 🍀

Writing this message is extremely tough. I have just started the beginning of my third miscarriage at 4 weeks 6 days - I appreciate it is very early so could be termed as a chemical pregnancy.

I had a MMC in May 2020 at 8 weeks after discovering the baby had stopped growing at 6.5 weeks shortly after seeing a heartbeat.

I then had a second MC in November 2020 at 6 weeks.

In Jan of this year I lost a stone in weight to regularise my cycles (which was successful) and had some tests for miscarriages done privately. It was discovered that I have a raised clotting amplitude and was advised to take daily aspirin after my next BFP. The clinic where hopeful that this, along with my weight loss and regularisation of cycles would help us stay pregnant.

Fast forward to last week, I discovered I was again pregnant - started the asprin as prescribed. Had my bloods done last week and they were doubling as expected.

However, today I have started bleeding with cramping and I know this is the start of miscarriage no.3.

We don't know what to do next, does anyone know what our options would be moving forward or is it simply to have another go.

I would be eternally grateful if anyone else who has been through something similar could give me any advice. I feel so empty, and really don't know what the next steps for us would be - but I don't think we are ready to give up on being parents just yet.

Thank you in advance :) x

Hi @J785948

I’m so sorry for your losses.

You should be referred to an NHS recurrent miscarriage clinic. Some tests are only run privately though, such as NK cells etc. You could ask to be referred to Mr Shehata‘s clinic in surrey as he is one of the top specialists in recurrent miscarriage. There’s another centre in Birmingham I believe and one in London (sorry hormone fight brain).

Which clotting factor do you have? I have the prothrombin gene mutation as have to take aspirin plus inject with blood thinners. Saying that even on that protocol I had a MMC at 8 weeks in feb, like you it was after seeing the heartbeat. My gut feeling is that I need to be on steroids so that’s what we will try if I fall pregnant again.

There’s another specialist called Amanda Tozer who will prescribe steroids without the expensive tests. I’m not against the tests by the way, we’ve just decided to put the money towards ivf and have all the tests done abroad.

I really feel for you, it’s horrible having loss after loss. Xxx

Hi everyone just catching up on all the posts!

Had a little bit of a sulk as it’s my birthday tomorrow and I keep thinking I would be early 20 weeks. On top of that the hormones are turning me into a madwoman. I have constant, want to kill people, PMS! I’m on 2 progesterone pessaries and have been having light AF type cramps at only 5/6 DPO so I honestly don’t know what is going on. I had a metallic taste last week and my acupuncturist said it could be a good sign but I just can’t trust my body. I know I can’t carry on wanting to scream at people all the time. I’ve also been so exhausted but unable to sleep properly. Progesterone has got a lot to answer for!

I can’t keep smashing DH’s reusable coffee cups and swearing at him

Hello ladies, I hope you’re all well, so lovely to hear some success stories on here after what we’ve been through. I’m sorry to hear many of us are also so frustrated- I’m in this boat right now I hate it.
I wonder if anyone has any advice or thoughts please.
I’m on my 3rd cycle since erpc. Cycles went back to normal 28 days straight away but I’m now 7 days late of this cycle and still getting BFN. I started pregnacare conception this month as boots had run out of theirs - and now I hear pregnacare can mess with your cycle?!
I know I ovulated quite late this month as didn’t get solid smilie until CD19 then I got pink spotting day my period was due CD28 which I thought could be implantation but now nothing and no symptoms.
Anyone had similar - or better still a positive after more than a week late and BFNs?
I’m 39 so keep freaking out it’s early menopause!
Xx

@J785948 I am so sorry your going through this for the third time, its so unfair, I really hope you are surrounded by lots of love 💕 this thread is really amazing and know your not alone. Did your doctor do Karyotype tests for you and your OH? I’ve had 2 MC and had that test done and I have a genetic issue, which makes pregnancy a real Russian roulette for me, but I’m staying hopeful that the perfect egg will come and we’ll get lucky.. our next port of call will be Ivf with pgd testing. This journey is tough, but I just imagine the most amazing intense emotions when we get to hold our babies for the first time, and it will all be worth it ❤️

@LostFox82 @Badlydrawngirly sorry your having down days too! Its such a turbulent time. Ive had two days of slightly pink cm, so I think my AF is on its way, before the MC i never had spotting. It really messes with you body and mind hey!?

Thank you for all of your replies, it is really appreciated. Cramping hasn't got any better, nor has it got any worse. I wouldn't say I am full on bleeding but it's lots of brown watery blood like my 2nd miscarriage. I am going to have a blood test at my EPU on Thursday if the cramping/bleeding hasn't got any worse.

@Jujujuberry - Sorry for your losses also. We had our tests done by Professor Regan at Imperial College in London. She doesn't recommend the generic testing as even if it comes back with a problem, they say their treatment plan would be the same - to just try again and get a better quality egg, similarly how you are trying.

Even if that isn't a problem, my gut is telling me it is my poor quality eggs, so my mindset is preparing me for trying IVF. Surely the benefit of that is they check the genetics of the embryo before implanting it? What is the phd testing?

@Badlydrawngirly - thank you for the message. Whilst we have self referred ourselves to a recurrent miscarriage clinic privately, I am hoping that we can do the same with our local NHS service. My thoughts is it cannot help to have a second opinion and for them to see whether any additional testing can be done.

I don't have a genetic blood clotting issue, but I think they do a test called the TEG test (I think) which just shows that it naturally clots more than it should do.

I think we will have one more go - the benefit is we can get pregnant quickly (has taken 2 goes for the first 2 and 5 cycles for the most recent one) and after that look further afield at NK cells of IVF. What is the benefit of IVF in your situation?

Thank you again for all of the love xx

Morning all, Aw @J785948 I am so sorry hun, I have had 2 and I'm really not hopeful this one will stick either tbh not holding out any hope whatsoever and I know this is the end of the line for me as I am 43! I hope it turns out to be just spotting, sending hugs xx

I'm CD37 today and I dont know, I just dont have any hope today. I havent gone past CD44 in the 2 mc's and today my boobs dont feel as sore, I have a feeling its all starting again!

Exactally @J785948 the benefits of ivf and pgt is (pre implantation genetic testing). I think it costs more for pgt but it would be worth it to make sure your at least transferring a good embryo :) This is an incredibly tough journey, but be kind to yourself and take your mind off it to do things that make you happy ❤️

@gizmo167 stay positive this is a new pregnancy and entirely different, my fingers are crossed for you hun ❤️

Ladies for some reason I can’t upload a pic, site keeps crashing if I try to do so, but I tested with a FRER this afternoon as I am feeling rough..... BFP!!!!! Cannot believe it!!!!

@Ralala no way! 🎉🎉🎉 congratulations, I'm so pleased for you. How are you feeling?

Hi ladies. I am sadly joining you all after a MC last week at around six weeks. I see lots of you are at different stages of your journeys, with ups and downs. @J785948 so sorry to see you are having such a tough time :( I hope you are being well cared for.

I recognise a few of you from other mutual threads, so hello! So lovely to see some bfps. Long may it continue with happy, healthy pregnancies and babas!

@Madeoftea I have been feeling off the last few days. I’m only cd28! I wonder if I did actually ovulate cd15 after peak on cd14. Frer line is quite strong not a squinter. My cycles have been all over the place since my MC. I will need a few days to let it all sink in I think xxx

Hello everyone,

Welcome to the new ladies, so sorry that you’ve found yourselves here but you’ve definitely found a very supportive group of ladies.

Congratulations @Ralala, so pleased for you and will keep everything crossed for you!

Had a very down day today. CD21 and my 8th flashing smiley face in a row on CB digital tests. I nearly threw it out of the window this morning when I saw it. Feeling very deflated at the moment. Feel like giving up.

@MSK1 thank you. I don’t know much about the digital tests to be honest. Maybe just keep DTD as much as you can just in case. Exhausting though!

Yes, that’s the plan, thanks @Ralala. Odd as I’ve always had my peak by now. I did miss a test on Friday though so maybe that would’ve been my peak, who knows? Will keep on going EOD until AF arrives. You’re right though, it’s bloody tiring all this! Had some pains in my right ovary last night which I always get around ovulation so fingers crossed I have actually ovulated.

Congrats again @Ralala, so chuffed for you! X

@Ralala big congrats hun x

Anyone else have an achy tummy, like a belly ache, cross between bloating & sore if that makes sense, have felt it all afternoon

Congratulations @Ralala another one with a BFP. Can't wait to see some more ladies with theirs:

I can't remember how I felt in my last pregnancy my mind seems to have gone blank but I am 4 weeks 2 days and don't have any symptoms, is that normal? I have the odd cramping but only mild and tired and need to wee all the time but no sickness or sore boobs etc so making me worry.

@Ralala absolutely amazing news!! Over the moon for you xx

Thank you @AMS19

@Ralala congratulations that is wonderful news 💕 hope you are feeling ok xx

Thank you @PlantMummy87.

Feels all abit surreal. Trying not to think about things. Feeling very nervous!!

Yaaaaay @Ralala congratulations! So excited for you

@gizmo167 I've had some stomach pains which I've concluded may be gas, lol (sorry for TMI). They seem to come in waves and it does feel like it's a tummy thing. Was really bad like a week ago but it's settled down now (unsure if that's a good or bad thing). Could yours be something like that? I think bloating and gas is common in pregnancy, just another joy of the experience...

@LostFox82 I had the same procedure done end of December last year. First period back took 5-6 weeks and then my next one was bang on 28 days like my cycle used to be. The next one was then 32 days which I didn’t expect and we are not currently TTC due to other gastro issues I’m having sorted. I’m 38 so also worried there was maybe something else going on but I saw a gynaecologist recently who said it takes a while for everything to settle down to just bare with your body and it’ll sort itself out

@Ralala huge congratulations to you xx

@Ralala huge congratulations!

@J785948 after falling pregnant quite easily in the past it took us over 3 years to conceive this last pregnancy and time isn’t on my side (42) and I lost my left tube after 3 ectopics. We’ve tried letrozole this month and if it doesn’t work after a couple of goes we will move to IVF at a clinic in Greece in July I think.