Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

[moly39x]

Been doing some research on soy isoflavones & I didn't know what people's opinions are?

I have a 35 day cycle, ovulate between CD17-21 - currently 7th month in of TTC after 1 early loss at 5 week in October.

Do people have any experience with taking them? I read the following on an old thread here about with CD to take them..

My concerns are; I have little/none EWCM (have conceive plus lube) but I get positive OPK every month (temping just stressed me out which I decided would do more harm?!) and I'm sure soy iso is to help ovulate? But now I've read the below, it looks as though it can help the egg. I'm cautious about messing up my cycle so was just looking to hear other people's experience.

Here's the info I've read here (have lots more saved in my notes if people want to see about the dose etc if interest) :)

Thank you x

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

@Twiggywinkle13 side effect, I had headaches at first, and so did others on another soy thread. But it got better day 3. And this cycle on the soy, no side effects at all

Hi @Twiggywinkle13 oh no that sounds horrible! I had headaches on days 8 & 9 that I suspect were to do with soy but nothing since and no amount of painkillers helped! They eventually went away after a nap & good night of sleep. If you're able to somewhat tolerate them you could see if it goes away in a day or 2?

I'm feeling okay, my cervix feels a tiny tiny bit open, not sure that really means anything though. And random cramp or 2 a day, not sure whether that's things moving along or something else entirely I'm super aware of & feel strongly this month. I do feel extra tired but again, could be to do with something else.

How are you @A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 ?

Thanks girls - I suspected it was that. Ok, I’m going to persevere and hope they settle as I’ve still got 3 more days to take them. I went for days 3-7. Just as well I started with 100mg! Fingers crossed for us all. I forgot just how debilitating migraines are. I take daily meds for them. Never mind - hoping it will all be worth it xx

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 sorry mean to ask how many cycles in you are? X

@Twiggywinkle13 do what you can to ease it off, if you can, fresh air, naps etc I used to get a few migraines too, they are awful. I was annoyed my headache wasted a weekend day, would rather get it in the middle of the week and take time off work if it came to it! The things we do 🙄 hopefully yours will ease off quickly!

@choccrumpet I know. I was just thinking there why take it if it’s giving me a migraine then I thought, oh yes... now I remember why I’m doing this!! I’ll just have to put up with it. Luckily still working at home which makes it easier. I was just reading on an old thread that thanking soy can cause issues when taking ovulation tests - what should I be looking out for?? I thought there’s nothing I didn’t know about TTC but clearly I’m at the tip of the iceberg. X

@Twiggywinkle13 this is only my second month of taking it. I remember feeling pretty yucky the first month, and the first couple of days were the worst. I kept the dosage lower (100mg) for three days as was scared to increase it further until I started feeling better. I've upped the dose this month and I took 200mg on the last two days, and haven't had a single side effect. Last month I also had really tingling sore nipples, and swollen boobs - sadly my boobs have stayed the same this month 🤣

@choccrumpet good thanks! had a lovely weekend. How are you? CD12, no positive opk, still more EWCM than I've had previously. Definitely crediting the grapefruit juice for that!

@Twiggywinkle13 I had strong positives on my opk last month. I would say test a little earlier, as mine came on CD 12. Was previously CD 20ish, so I almost missed it!

Oh jeez, right I usually get a positive on day 16 or 17 so I guess I better just start with daily OPK’s as soon as AF goes. Don’t want to put in this effort and miss it all together!

@Twiggywinkle13 🤣 this month I'm just having sex every day from my period to make sure. And then straight after ovulation think we'll probably take a break for the rest of the month as will be exhausted 🙈

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 you’re definitely going to need some time off May the force be with us! Think AF should leave tomorrow so I’ll definitely start OPK’s then so I don’t miss it. Fingers crossed!

So I took soy isoflavones days 4-8. My ovulation day really varies and this month it was day 16 so can't say it was really brought forward. I'm now 9dpo. I have a really short luteal phase (normally 7-9 days) but have been seed cycling and taking agnus castus and EPO to try and lengthen it. I was feeling hopeful but my temp dropped this morning to cover line level. Desperately hoping I've just not taken it properly instead of a sign of AF 😫

@Twiggywinkle13 good luck!

@RoseGold24 ah no! Hopefully it goes back up again 🤞 Otherwise that’ll make your luteal phase slightly longer though? I don’t know if you’re taking them together but I read apparently you should take either soy or Angus castus as they can cancel each other out a bit. It was just on a holistic midwife site, I don’t have a link to hand now

Thanks @A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 Yeah I guess the good news is my luteal phase might be longer which would be great, plus I haven't had any spotting which is unusual for me! So these are good going forward

@RoseGold24 or no spotting is hopefully something positive!!
I was very excited not to have days of spotting and a bit longer luteal phase last month

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 oh that's fab! Bad news is a longer TWW😂

@RoseGold24 yes definitely the down side ! Keep us posted how you go

@Twiggywinkle13 I took soy 3-7 last month and 2-6 this month 🤞🏻🤞🏻 for everyone! I got a couple of mild headaches last month but nothing so far this month, now on cd11

Still a zero on my opk today, last month I had a flashy smiley cd11 peak on 12 so was expecting it a day or so earlier this month but nope! Will carry on and see what happens

Ladies.. how are you all getting on? Sorry for the absence.. had a stay cation! I had the latest ovulation I've ever had this month but now I'm not sure if I'm line eyes or evap?! 9 dpo smu 🤪

@hopingforababyh I see a line!! Fingers crossed for you!! Please keep us updated xx

Ah wow exciting!! Congratulations! Is this our first soy positive test?

I'm not 100% sure it's a positive yet, but I took maca roots this month & soy I'll be starting next month if this isn't a BFP! Shall test again tomorrow morning though 🤞🏻🤞🏻

@hopingforababyh so you took maca root this month, and no soy? Do I need to add another vitamin in 🤣

Good luck for the test tomorrow, but it looks positive to me!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I definitely don't recommend maca roots after my month! When I started this thread I'm not sure I even knew what it was & wish I hadn't bothered 🤯 may not be the case for others mind!

CD29 I think I ovulated this month! I mean, if it is my BFP than yay but the stress it's caused 😭😂

@hopingforababyh Stressful, but if it works, I'd be keen! 😂

I'm CD13 and had a positive OPK today. My app has estimated ovulation for tomorrow now. If it is then, it will be CD 14 the same as last month. Despite taking soy from a day later this cycle