October 2007 ~All about us ~ MC'ing or MC'ed or TTC of BFP after MC or just loves cakes!

[katendmom]

As we agreed - starting a fresh thread before our original shuts down. Will post this new link into the old thread so everybody can find us!

In the meantime ~ sprinkling it with pink and blue baby pixie dust

and splashing with baby glue so lo's stick around forever ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Claire - I thought April was pretty perfect timimg too, DD was January (should've been Feb) and that was not bad, but did have slight annoyance of horrid majorly huge unflattering maternity bras which made it difficult to wear nice summer tops in August / September. Never mind.

Starlight - you sound really positive, which is great. I feel quite feeble in comparison. Even though pg was unplanned, and initially wasn't that happy, find myself with tears in my eyes even at a sanatogen advert on the tube yesterday (took dd to science museum) which has a picture of a pg tummy. But then my mum's death in February has left me perpetually easy to tears, so it's probably a cumulative thing.

oh starlight, i hate the way they refer to our BABIES as "products of conception" i wish i could say something to make you all feel better, but i cant. i've lost 6 babies now and the last one was just as devastating as the first. but we WILL get over this

on one of the earlier theads someone posted a poem, i will try to find it

StarlightMcKenzie we've said it times and times again on this thread - it's amazing how mc redefines "good news" at times - but GOOD NEWS and SO HAPPY FOR YOU! Now just relax and start recovering.

splash like gilly - I am the only child... partially that's why I'd love for my DS to have a sibling (I really needed one at times) BUT how many people do you know who are NOT close with their siblings at all? It is SO not by default and I don't think it depends on parents either whether their kids will be close. My FIL is a wonderful dad (and MIL who passed away - was a good mother) but my DH and his brother are not close at all! So just putting things into a perspective...

oh lissiethevampireslayer... six babies... have they been able to pin point the reason for you? (Sorry, I'm the investigational mind, in case you haven't noticed from my personal posts! )

here it is, i love this poem and take comfort in it (thank you mrsmcj):

A Different Child

A different child,
People notice
There?s a special glow around you,
You grow
Surrounded by love,
Never doubting you are wanted;
Only look at the pride and joy
In your mother and father?s eyes.

And if sometimes
Between the smiles
There?s a trace of tears,
One day
You?ll understand
You?ll understand
There was once another child
A different child
Who was in their hopes and dreams.
That child will never outgrow the baby clothes
That child will never keep them up at night
In fact, that child will never be any trouble at all.
Except sometimes, in a silent moment.
When mother and father miss so much
That different child.
May hope and love wrap you warmly
Any may you learn the lesson forever
How infinitely precious
How infinitely fragile
Is this life on earth.
One day, as a young man or woman
You may see another mother?s tears
Another father?s silent grief
The you, and you alone
Will understand
And offer the greatest comfort.
When all hope seems lost,
You will tell them
With great compassion,
?I know how you feel.
I?m only here
Because my mother tried again.?

kate, ive had loads of tests. all my mc's happened between 4+6 and 8+2w, 1 was a ruptured ep but all have happened within the last 2 years. the nhs is pretty rubbish when it comes to this sort of stuff, i had to wait until i'd had 3mc (should've been 4, but then i had the ep) and the last 2 have been while we were having tests done. i was v ill after ds was born and had nasty uterine group b strep which we THINK has damaged my womb. the only one that really held on was the one in my left fallopian tube

oh hunny... I am so sorry... my doctor told me that at times if woman is put on progesteron therapy early on - it helps to sustain her pregnancy... has anybody talked to you about it? I am probably talking out of my you-know-what since I don't really know much about hormone levels etc...

and thank you for posting the poem... cried my eyes out (but needed that)... the last 3 lines just summed up about last 3 years of my life.

Starlight so very sorry hun, big (((((hug))))) for you xx

Lissie I was diagnosed with a live culture of "Strep B" in September 2006 and I have had two M/C's since then, I am now starting to wonder if the strep B has had any thing to do with the M/C's? When I get some time, I will try and find some info on the Internet.
(I have also had a few other health problems that I was blaming but now I am not really very sure!) I have been getting vertigo on and off for approx 17 months, I had episcleritis in December and january, and joint pains started in December in hands,feet,shoulders,cheek bones(they come and go) the eye specialist was sure I had rheumatoid arthritis! My sister has it badly, she has been on methotrexate for quite a few years. My blood test came back OK in December but symptoms persist! My sister's first blood test was ok but subsequent ones were not! My addiction to have one last baby has come first, as time is running out, I am due to return to work in June 2009 after an authorised career break, and I will be 43 in April 2008, sorry to go on so much this morning< I don't know what came over me!

Hiya, haven't been on here for what feels like ages, but is in reality only a couple of weeks. Nice to see that the cake us still on offer - hot choc fudge cake with lashings of cream for me please .

Have been mad busy with starting uni, going to Italy for holiday (yeah right, rural Tuscany with a post-MMR child - not really a holiday) and generally trying to get on with life. Plus have had huge net access problems again - don't mention home hubs to me!

We aren't really ttc at the mo - have no idea what cd day I'm on which feels quite liberating tbh. Have kind of decided that if it happens, it happens, so am not getting myself stressed about that now. Got a bit stressed about it last week when found out that sil is pg, but am ok now.

Emmsy - my first mc (at around 16weeks) was attributed to GBS, but I have had a beautiful little boy since then. I was gbs free throughout that pg, but they still closely monitored me and gave me iv abx when I was in labour. Apparently, there are pretty strict protocols to follow once you have been found to carry gbs.

They haven't given a reason for the second mc (after ds). I do find it bizarre that there is precious little in the way of follow-up after mc. You don't really see another medic until you're pg again - hardly the best time to be going through your history imo.

Anyway, off for more caffeine otherwise I will witter on at you all day. Hugs to everyone, especially those having a bad time at the moment.

WMMC, its nice to see you, iywym about not ttc watching CD's/CM v liberating.

emmsy, did the GBS get into your womb? i found some research that suggests that UTERINE GBS can cause mc but vaginal GBS doesnt.

Kate, im glad you liked the poem. I have it on my favourites now. when we go back to see the specialist (the 22nd) i will put onto clomid, although why i dont know. i have no probs getting pg, just staying that way.

morning to all, anyone seen ronshar?

Starlight I can totally understand you wanting to see the baby. I must admit, that's what I tried to look for as well. In my case, I couldn't see anything resembling one.

TMI Alert!

I've had another big bit of placenta come out today, so hopefully now that must be it!

I'm still very tearful. And why is it that every other advert on telly is for ill babies/children???

Normally, I work on markets. Hubby is there today. Must admit, I'm not looking forward to going back to it. Last week I was looking at all the prams going past trying to decide which I liked before going shopping. I don't want to stand there on our stall and bawl everytime someone goes past with a baby. I'm sure that will pass.

I got a letter in the post yesterday for what would have been the first scan. The worst thing was ringing to cancel it. Upsetting, but I made myself do it, rather than ask DH.

Thank you for all the good wishes from everyone. I'm thinking positive thoughts towards you all too.

By the way. Cakes! Oh, I do love cakes. Shouldn't admit this, but I have been known when in a bit of a bad mood to be able to entirely demolish a whole sara lee chocolate gateaux (erm, the small size if that makes it any less gluttonous!!).

I am also a chocoholic, and there is a big bar of dairy milk next to the keyboard. Methinks it may not all be there by the time hubby gets home

Ok. I'm off now for a coffee.... and maybe some chocolate therapy!

Take care,
Grinningbee

i will, clomids pretty heavy going anyway so want to avoid it if i can.

how are you doing today?

oh grinningbee, i remember having to cancel my booking in appt after my ep, i sobbed right the way through the conversation. chocolate sounds like a great idea today

lissie I don't know where it had spread to?
I had gone to the docs because I had started to feel pain when we were having sex! She took a swab and sent it off! I then had a phone call from them to tell me that I had a live culture of Strep B and that it could be a problem if I was pregnant or if I had it at the same time as a systemic disease, rhuematoid arthritis is a systemic disease (it can effect your organs etc..)so don't really know anymore just put it out of my mind and carried on TTC!
I am having some kind of "flare up" at the moment as currently having pains in knuckles,cheeks and elbows, god knows what's going on, but pain is no where near as bad as sister gets so I try not to worry about it!

oh dear, that sounds awful.

tbh, the GBS shouldnt affect TTC, only when you give birth IYKWIM, the only reason it got into my uterus was because i was contracting for so long

Lissie - thanks for the poem made me bawl though

ronshar - hope you are bearing up today, thinking of you x

aquababe/spilshspolsh - I so know what you mean about not wanting to see your old antenatal thread, mine is nearly half way there already

starlight - glad everything is over for you physically at least, your right onwards and upwards x

kate - good news about the insurance paying for your tests, the US medical system has me baffled.

grinningbee - thinking of you too hope it's all passed for you as well x

Emmsy - sorry you are feeling so unwell too hope you are feeling better soon x

lissie The GBS didn't affect my TTC I have mananged to get pregnant two times since being diagnosed but have M/C both times at 5 and 6 weeks it may not be anything to do with it just purely coincidental? just have to wait & see! I am going to take some baby aspirin when I conceive next, I ordered it off ebay, and I am already taking 5mg of Folic acid instead of 400 microgram, I get them on prescription so hopefully the next time things will be perfect!
Ta SPOOKS, I don't really feel ill it's just little aches now and then, I don't notice them as much when I am busy, mainly when I sit down or go to bed. I sometimes get a "hung over" feeling which get's me down when I haven't even had a drink!
Must go now DS whinging for food!

I have gbs and it hasn't affected my conception. My pregnancies will the girls were fine and I had it with them so do't feel it was related to my mc's. My girls were both ill after due due to gbs though with antibiotic treatment they both recovered well.

what i was saying was that the infection got into my womb, which makes it a slightly different scenario iykwim. it is very rare for GBS to get that far up.

lissiethevampireslayer I didn't relaise that could happen. They really should do a routine test for it for both the babies and mothers sake.

the thing is, GBS in most cases is really quite... not harmless but not the worst case scenario. i was v unlucky. it is VERY rare for the infection to spread so far up (proves that i was in labour for FAR too long) and i found some research done in the states, they discovered a link between UTERINE gbs and early mc. not vaginal GBS tho.

how is everyone today? dh came in trolleyed last night and is being a wuss about having blood taken tomorrow. i just want to shake him and shout FFS, be a man!

Morning! The sun is shining and I have the day to myself, so I'm just contemplating how to treat myself to a lovely relaxing time. Dp has taken dd to his mum's for the day, and he's going fishing after that, so I have the whole day stretching ahead of me.... it's so unusual I feel quite excited. Is that sad???? And yesterday i even had a few hours to myself, as managed to send dp off to a dad's thing in the morning. So I'm feeling surprisingly rested and cheery

thats good! we are going out for lunch, got to find somewhere nice

Sorry if I missed this, but what is GBS?

and while I am here, you are all such strong brave women on this thread. When I had my mc a year ago, I cried inwardly for months. I wish I had had people like you to talk to, I might have brushed myself down a bit quicker and got on with ttc again. It's taken me a year to try again! . Sorry I just lurk most of the time. In fact I got lost for a week when you changed threads! duh.