Sausages and j*zz - Sep Bus 17

[Juno231]

June BFPs - 24
July BFPs - 10
August BFPs - 18

September BFPs so far:
@catherinettc - Sep 4th
@mrsi2020 - Sep 6th
@KateColx - Sep 21st

Testing dates:
@Missgoldilocks - September 23rd
@franklydear - September 27th
@SarahTTC2020 - September 28th
@Laceymermaid - September 29th
@galatea - September 29th
@clairey844 - September 29th
@Juno231 - September 30th
@hopeful110 - October 2nd
@mrsbear1122 - October 5th
@2020mission - October 6th
@notyetamumbuttrying - October 6th
@minster2012 - October 12th

Oh I'm really hoping brown cm means implantation @lucyrp

@Juno231 not sure about CD as I had some spotting a while ago that I'm not sure if I should count as onto a new cycle or not so either cd17 or cd39🤷‍♀️ but think (hope🤞) I'm 3dpo

Sorry not been on too much today, been trying to keep busy in between pestering clinic for Covid & progesteone results (phoned twice & told "you are on call back list already no need to phone again" I can only assume it's ok did tomorrow??

@Juno231 so sorry you've got a bfn, how many dpo are you?? I've got my transfer tomorrow (if my tests come back ok) and it's just me going in on my lonesome. It's such a monumental occasion that's actually over very quickly and unceremoniously it's so weird. But without FH this time it will feel bizarre, last time we went out for lunch & kind of "marked it" this time I'm just driving myself, going home & sitting on my arse 😂unfortunately they don't implant it, that would be amazing, hence why it can often still not work, they just place it in the right place in the uterus & hope the continued cell splitting makes it implant 🤞🏻that's still the hard bit but if the embryo isn't good enough, or the lining or anything really then same as any of you guys an egg cN be fertilised then not implant a period happen (though my drugs hold off the AF) so we test & if then get BFN stop drugs & then have AF

@lucyrp Brown Cm 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻lets hope xxx

Ooh @Minster2012 didn't realise it was 2morro! Im so excited for you!!!

@Minster2012 oh thank you for explaining that! I always thought they kinda shoved it into the lining lol. Fingers crossed it burrows in for you in that case! I'm 11DPO so I know there's still a small chance but I doubt it somehow.

I keep checking my nhs app daily for the smear results as I keep thinking it would be sod's law if i got an abnormal result again. No word yet though!

Oh @minster2012 I have everything crossed for you hun. I really hope this is your time x

@Minster2012 fingers so tightly crossed for you lovely!!

@Minster2012 argh they need to give you your results ASAP - do they know how much is riding on this?!?!?!

@lucyrp I think the chart should show mostly low temps in the first half pre-ov, then mostly high temps post-ov. Mine when low are 36.2-36.5, and then when high are 36.6-36.8. Like it should be more of an obvious overall trend - I've attached a photo of one of mine. Unfortunately yours isn't following this pattern. Maybe try sticking the thermometer up your (small) vagina?! Might help eliminate any random swings although not ideal 😂😂

@2alreadywantanother I'll be keeping a look out for your updates over the next few weeks/months and rooting for your BFP! Meanwhile we can drink again 🍹 I have been making the most of that 😂

@Juno231 that's ok, yeah the success rate for my age is about 30% they usually quote it takes 3 times to get a success. We were very lucky that it worked first time to my friend (but she had conceived 2 children quickly so one hopes her "womb environment wasn't flawed") and for a lot of couples like me I'm finding out from 2 times now my lining isn't great & ive already had one miscarriage after it worked last time
God if they implanted it then it would work every time & everyone would just go for IVF & long as you got an embryos it would work 🤣ahhh that would be amazing 😋🤪

@Catherinettc yes it should be if they bloody tell me my progesterone is ok and I've not got Covid 😂😳

@amy00 too right. I'd a few the wkend. Didnt go mad but will this wkend I think.
Same to u. If I get a bfp by xmas I'll be happy. Anything after that if be 41 🙈 but I dont care. What's for ya wont pass ya

@Amy00 I've never had low temps like yours in the first half even on my normal cycles so god knows 🤣 I did think about doing vaginally next cycle but surely they'd be even higher then as they always seem to be higher than orally 🤦🏼‍♀️ I was going to start now but can't really mix it up half way through a cycle the only two temps that are low I've ever recorded are 36.19 and 36.10 and they're on completely different cycles and I've never had any lower than that they're always over 36.4

@Minster2012 @Katao thanks girls 💗

Just had a mammoth catch up ladies!! There was bloody shit loads! Loving all your funny stories! Mines about shit aswel, when I shit myself🙈 think it's safe to say quite a lot of us have done that🙉
@lucyrp im keeping my fingers crossed for you that it's implantation bleeding 🤞🏻
@Minster2012 I wish you all the luck in the world tomorrow my lovely! & hoping that the embryo gets all snug & comfy & buried in there nice & deeply for! Fuck me you've drank enough of that extortionately priced Pom juice, so hoping that lining of yours is nice & fluffy 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
I'm now wishing I used my CBD to track ovulation after my early loss, because it's driving me mad not knowing where I am in my cycle. I track my RHR so I might post on that thread & see if someone can help, because I think I might have ovulated early going by that. If I did it would make me 8DPO, but not holding out much hope this cycle, as RHR chart doesn't look the same as when I got my BFP. Although I did implant at 6DPO so there still could be a chance

@Chlo2701 I think I might be half pomegranate at this stage!! Your RHR is only one thing to track don't forget 🤞🏻

Well FINALLY the clinic just phoned and said I don't have Covid and my progesterone is good. Thank fuck. So we are all on to next waiting stage. SURVIVING THE THAW ❄️☃️⛄️so little embryo comes out of the freezer at 6am and then til 8.30am to thaw & it gets checked to see if it continues to develop (cells continue to divide) or if it's inactive (dead)....about 80% survive and 20% don't. I then get a call to tell me the news about 9am to tell me if it's ACTUALLY on or not for around 11am.

So could have done all this preparation and it not survive (that happened to someone we know in the surrogacy world) their SIL was going to carry for them, months to prepare, (it took us 2 years to sort out the surrogacy/IVF embryos initially) they had 2 embryos like us it was meant to be the same week the transfer & neither survived the thaw 😔heartbreaking

Stressed??? Me??? I said I'm chilled about this didn't I??

DIDN'T I??????

@lucyrp they'd be higher using the hoo-ha but like @amy00 says it's about the pattern - so they don't have to be as low as amy's numbers wise but there should be a 0.3 or higher difference between FP and LP temps usually.

There's an almost 0.5C difference in my chart between the two phases - so you're looking for a temp shift between phases and not just compared to your dip on CD17.

@Minster2012 yay for good results and BOO for the stress! And you can't do any of the nice stuff to take the edge off either! I'd suggest yoga but you seem to be the type of person who'd chuck the yoga block in my face for suggesting it lol.

Headspace the app?? Works wonders for me!

Ha ha ha no I wouldn't @Juno231 I only jest! I do Pilates and I've done a chilled one today to try pass time as well as caught up with my friend & her DS with mine too to go swimming. That's not the least stressful time as my child is pretty hyper and I'm pretty sure he was actively trying to drown me (he wasn't, hes 2) but the lifeguard actually told me to try & contain him before just laughing er yeah right I'll just make sure he doesn't drown eh?! 🤣I've tried a mindfulness app before & my mind just can't switch off I'm afraid it's silly!

@Minster2012 love that meme! Didn't you say you would have a bath tonight to relax & a glass of wine or g&t. Thank god Covid negative & progesterone is good! Soooo what happens tomorrow if they say the embryo didn't survive the thaw, didn't you say you've got one more? I'm going to be checking on here tomorrow morning for your updates! Keeping everything crossed for you that it all goes to plan tomorrow morning & they transfer at 11!!!!🤞🏻
That was funny what @Juno231 said about chucking the yoga block in her face🙈 I can't imagine how nervous you must feel tonight! Hopefully you'll be able to sleep. But you must be going through so many emotions right now 😌

@Juno231 I can understand that from his POV. At least not too much longer to wait then. Is he on supplements already? He needs to not smoke or binge drink. Exercise won't hurt either! Brazil nuts are good for selenium but mine refuses point blank to eat them as he can't stand the taste!

@Minster2012 so happy you can go ahead! Fingers crossed for the thaw!! 🤞🏾

@Chlo2701 yes, we have 2 left, so they will go for the one that is a day 5 frozen (as they would always go for a day 5 because the other is a day 3 and to make it into a baby a day 3 then has to make it to a day 5 so that one always has more chance IYSWIM) then if the day 5 doesn't survive the thaw there's still time to take out the day 3 tomorrow & transfer that later on tomorrow if that survives & grows but that one if it works would take more days to implant as that's like more closer to ovulation time so yeah we have two chances to thaw 🤞🏻

Yup bath & relax tonight but once DH back he leaves at 7am & back around 6-6.15, just cooking now!! Bath once DS in bed!

@Minster2012 yes that all makes sense hun. God there's so much involved in it. Let's hope that you don't need to use the 3 day one. Enjoy your bath & try to relax tonight, I get that that's easier said than done though.
@notyetamumbuttrying yes I heard Brazil nuts are good for both men & women as for the woman its supposed to help with implantation. But not to over do it with them as they have something in them that isn't good if you eat too many. I eat them everyday, I've read that you eat 3 a day before ovulation then 4 a day after ovulation

Will be thinking of u tomorrow @minster2012.

Thanks for being so open and educating us all on the IVF process @Minster2012, Ive learned so much about it from you and its far more complicated process than I thought. I also assumed they'd shove it right up snugly into the lining for you too, I didnt realise the actual implantation side doesn't happen from them. You must be such a mixed bag of emotions tonight! Just know we're all rooting for you and even tho you're having to go do it alone physically tomorrow, you've virtually got a whole bunch of ladies holding your hand from beginning to end.

@lucyrp OMG haha. But bless you. I'm sure you don't have a massive vagina 😂

@Minster2012 what are the odds! I'm sure it'll be fine though

@2alreadywantanother glad you're feeling ready again, good luck x

Hey girls I'm baccck!

We're all home and sorted now, got a chinese on the way😋 so I'm in fertile week and flo has changed the fw days now to 27th-6th with Saturday the 3rd being ov, so far we've had sex everyday from 21st-28th, so gonna try again for tonight then probs a break tomorrow as we'll be tired from first day back at work after our hol, then go again Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday🤞🏼 think I have enough spunk up me at the minute to conceive a football team after this last week, if only it was that simple!!

Hope you're all okay❤️

Oh just to add to that too, had a wee when I got home and decided to do an opk, it was probably a high ish low and I had ewcm!