The July 19ers - The rollercoaster continues, scream if you wanna go faster

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We can do this ladies.

We can take on anything

@edi I agree the book is fascinating. I have ordered £150 of supplements 🙈 but it will probably only help to a certain extent because DH just won't make the lifestyle changes recommended. I bought him supplements at the same time as I got my enhanced pre natals, I am over halfway through my second pot, he is a quarter of the way through his first. He just doesn't get it. Makes me really cross. His sperm sample results are due back next week so we'll see what they say, although that won't say anything about the chromosomes which is really what you're trying to tackle with the suggestions in the book 🤔 But it might reveal something that gives him a kick up the arse, you never know.

We weren't going to try this month and I thought I'd have o'd already but then DH came back and we couldn't resist 🙈 not sure if I've ovulated or not.

Hope everyone's trundling along OK x

Looks like you have o'd to me 🙈 what day did you dtd?

Sorry I've been so quiet recently. The chem hit me really hard, & I literally do not know what to say to anyone anymore.

I've taken a weeks sick from work to get my head around everything 🤞🏼 fingers crossed I'll start feeling a but better soon.

I've decided not to temp/use OPKs this month & not have a month off as such, but just "see what happens." Actually is really refreshing not to be obsessed for a few weeks.

Hope everyone is getting on ok... so pleased all the scan results are looking good! 👏🏼👏🏼

We did it this evening so CD15. When I got the 36.48 temp on CD14 I assumed I must have o'd CD13 but then my temp went down today so I was less sure.

Sorry you've been feeling down about the chemical. I found it really tough as well. I tried to take this month as a month off but I can't bring myself to not temp. I actually ended up finding it really stressful not temping over Christmas.

Betty good luck with those results coming back, hopefully gives some sort of answer but one that can be fixed so you have a game plan.

So sorry the CP is hitting you so hard rather - I really hope this less intense cycle helps you. Sounds like it is already.

So unsure Kin ! Really gonna be a proper waiting game for you!

Sorry you're struggling @ratherbeshowjumping
I understand what you mean about not knowing what to say. Just do what is right for you and DH for as long as it takes.
@Kinsters looks like u ov'd to me!
Hope everyone else is doing well xxx

I think you guys were right and I did ovulate so definitely out this month! I went to see my Dr but should have checked whether she was working cause she's off this Saturday and next. Going to go and see her on Monday instead. I've got a notebook ready and everything lol

Hi Ladies. Sorry I've not really been on for a week, been really busy since getting back from holiday last weekend. Had NHS gynae consultation appointment, all bloods for clotting, antibodies and blood sugar are 'normal'. ………………….so yet more 'unexplained infertility' despite having 2 natural conceptions and losses last year. I'm at my wits end. Hopefully will have more results for DH next week from private clinic then we can get an appointment with them too. I'm currently on cycle 4 post mc#2 and I think 11DPO so means AF is due tomorrow with my 12 day LP. Definitely don't feel pregnant so fully expecting AF to show.

@ratherbeshowjumping sending you lots of hugs!!!

@Kinsters goodness that is a proper TWW with total unknown.

I'm gonna go try catch up on everything.

Hope you're all well x

InDreamland that's annoying that nothing has come up as conclusively the problem. Is you DH getting the dna fragmentation test done? I can't remember if you had that already.

I went to see my Dr this morning. She said normally they do investigations after three miscarriages (not including chemicals) but agreed with me when I said I was worried how long that would take if I kept having chemicals. She did a scan and thought my lining looked thin for 5dpo (I don't think she really believed I'm 5dpo).

Anywah, I'm going back next cycle pre ovulation and she'll do a more detailed scan and confirm to herself that I actually am ovulating then I guess she'll have me come back a week after that and see what my lining is doing. So a good start I guess.

Don’t be sorry @ratherbe, it makes total sense to feel bad, chemical or not.
I’ve been a bit quite myself lately cause we’re passing the 9 wk mark where we had the last mmc. I hope I’m just being paranoid but my symptoms appear to have gone again, just like last time. I had more nausea this time around but that has tailed off, bloating gone, boobs not sore anymore, not needing the loo at night. Only thing still giving me grief is the pelvic girdle pain which set in very early on.
We haven’t got a scan until 17th April, I’d be 13 wks by then. Would go for a private scan but DH is taking me to Madrid on Wed till Sun for my birthday and I don’t want to mess that up by confirming this has all gone to shit already. Just hoping it doesn’t try to evacuate while on holiday.

Glad to hear you received getting testing, even if it isn’t giving any clear answers yet @indreamland. It’s so hard cause in one sense you want them to give you something definitive to constructively work with but that could bring your world crashing down whereas ‘unknown’ is frustrating but at least you have some sort of hope. I fully expect to be on the same road as you very soon. This whole ttc/pregnancy malarkey is mental agony.

@Kinsters he has had another sample for that sent off. Hopefully get the results this week. I'm still considering testing for NK cells even though doctor says she isn't recommending it. If I don't I'll always be wondering. It's good your GP is running some tests. Hopefully this is the start of getting answers and then something can be treated.

@Buggles1 have you had a bleed? I was told symptoms come and go when I was pregnant with my first. Fx that all is still ok and you are just lucky with a healthy pregnancy but have few symptoms.

So AF due today, possibly tomorrow. Feeling crampy though so think this month is still not to be - I can't help hoping for a miracle though.

Decided to give in and go get a private scan tomorrow. I couldn’t cope with not knowing any longer. Fx

Fx for tomorrow @Buggles1.

AF has f'ing shown up. I just feel shutting out the world but I can't, I have to pretend that everything is fine because I have been told by a few people lately that I just need to get over it and move on! WTF!!!!! I have lost my only 2 babies in the past 9 months and been TTC for almost 6 years. I am so angry and hurt.

Sorry about AF @indreamland... sadly some people will just never understand how heartbreaking and all consuming it is. Forget them, deal with things as you feel you need to. X

@Buggles1 well done for booking the private scan, I think it’s definitely the right decision. I don’t know how you have managed all this time without one. x

@Indreamland I’m so sorry about AF, it sucks doesn’t it. I think it’s worth testing for NK cells, I agree with the ‘always wondering’ issue. Why doesn’t the doctor recommend it?

@Buggles1 deffo the right decision!!

I had a private scan this morning and midwife booking in apt this afternoon - I didn't feel that I could face the booking in without knowing everything was ok, I know had a scan 2 weeks ago but time DRAGS!!

I'm 8+4 but measuring at 8+5
Saw the heartbeat going good and fast, they said they don't measure the rate but certainly looked more than 2 beats per second 💕 got a pic too! CRL was 20.9mm if anyone is a statistic lover

Knowing everything is looking positive and with a picture in my bag, We decided to go and tell my mum and dad, mum was absolutely thrilled and really positive about stuff which was great, given her a real focus other than her cancer 💕

Booking in apt was dull as dishwater... a million questions I could have filled in at home and blowing in a carbon monoxide meter x

Yay @tigsyboo congrats on the scan & I'm so pleased that you told your mum, I bet she was thrilled ❤️

@Buggles1 I'm keeping everything crossed for you today 🤞🏼🤞🏼

CD15 today, we dtd Friday (cd11) & Sunday (cd13) (plus preseed). I usually O either CD13/14 so hoping that's enough. I am starting to feel anxious now about not testing/charting this month but up til now it actually has been so refreshing to have a month off.

Had a bit of a mini hypothetical row last night with DH - I said that when I do fall pg again, I want to keep it to ourselves until 12week scan, then only tell parents (& my best friend). I don't want anyone else to know at all until all clear at 20week scan. Last time he shouted it from the rooftops from the BFP...
Apparently I'm being unreasonable & a control freak & our families have a right to know?!

What time is your scan @Buggles1 ? Xx

@ratherbeshowjumping I guess I see both points of your hypothetical row.... 20 weeks is a bloody long time not to allow him to share his obvious excitement when you get pregnant.... but telling the world after a positive pee stick isn't on either.

I think when it comes and you are seeing scans with heartbeats and things you will feel more positive and relax a little more. I banned DH from mentioning it until 12 weeks .... but after a great scan yesterday we were chatting away last night about names etc. X

Just had the scan @tigsy. I have tears of joy thankfully. We saw a strong heartbeat and seems to be measuring just a couple of days short of expected at 9+2. I can’t tell you how relieved I am. I never seem to stop crying lately but I’m so glad it is this way round this time. Thanks for all your support everyone.

Ah @Buggles1 I'm so happy!!
I was crying in my scan too, which set the DH and the sonographer off!! 😂😂
Only a few days behind you then as I'm 8+6 today xx

Now you can enjoy your holiday ☀️

Ahhh @Buggles1 I'm so thrilled for you! Enjoy your hols!

Hmm maybe I am being a bit harsh then. It was the not telling parents until 12 weeks part that he objected to...! Hope so @tigsyboo, but we did see a heartbeat last time (was below on measurements though) hence why I feel so strongly about keeping it a secret all hypothetically of course 🙈

Congratulations on the scans tigsy and buggles.

My DH leaves it totally up to me when we tell people. I'd probably be waiting till a bit later to tell wider friends and family. Last time we saw a strong heartbeat and correct size at 7+5 but then it ended in miscarriage anyway. I'd probably wait till 16 or 20 weeks before telling anyone other than immediate family. If we ever get that far...

My chart is really nice this month. Shame I'm definitely not pregnant!

Talking of not announcing too early... this came up on my Facebook yesterday 🙈