ttc after MC July 2007 - anybody out there?

[popsy76]

Hi ladies, our old thread is full and now I can't find anyone
I have posted here and on bereavement thread with same title - come join me if you find this

wonderful news basil, hope you have a great holiday xx

Welcome back MrsMcJ. Hope you had a ball.

Glad to hear from you again Angua. Sorry you are having a crappy time. Also 2WW I think- had oodles of ewcm the other day, bd once then DH got snowed under at work and has been sleeping in the office since. Hmmm.

Everyone else, read all your news but have forgotten it alreay....mind still a sieve post-mc. Wishing and hoping and thinking and praying (in the words of Dusty Springfield) for good things for you (us) all.

Flossie xxxxxxxxx

flosspot its good to be back as well, if a little stressful.

I found that TTC brought back a lot of the horrible memories from the MMC as well, which really didn't help, but now fingers crossed for this month.

Desperatly trying to wait before doing preg tests which won't show anything anyway as too early!!

congratluations basilbrush so pleased for you.

HERBACEOUS............

I have just been given your name from someone on a thread I started regarding STEROIDS to help with pregnancies in first 12 weeks.

I have had five m/c's and no live births.

I am receiving guidance and treatment form Prof Reagan at st Marys in london.

I have had two failed pregnancies with heparin and aspirin. They now say steroids is the answer.

Do you have any ifo that I can use. I have tried searching the web and have not really found anything about steroid treatment.

I have basically been sent away from the hospital to think about the next course of action.

It looks as though I will go with the steroids as I have no other option....

HELP!!!!!

Jules- stick around for as long as you need.

Angua- try not to worry too much. We'll wait (and worry) together. Woke up feeling queasy this morning and am trying not to read anything into it......

Herbaceous- so very sorry you are here. I can't offer any advice, but I do send thoughts and prayers.

Everyone else, howdy-doody and heelo this 'thirsty Thursday' morning (think I listen to too much radio 2!)

morning everyone
Loads of messages to get through so just wanted to say a quick hello for now
MrsMc how is it all going? I often think about you and wonder how you are getting on?
OCDbodycheckers I'm with you all - i think we just have to accept that we arre going to be madly checking everything from our temperature to our metal mouths to our bodily effluents on a reg basis while on this route to motherhood...I have had dark red EWCM again grrr - thought was back to normal this month. Anyway at least am seeing doctor tomorrow by chance - have a LONG list of stuff
1)EWCM as above
2) glads, throat (owwww!)
3)UTI (F8cking BDing has launched an all out attack against my poor urethra )
DH says he'll have to send me to the knackers yard ha bloody ha
If I don't log on tomoz you'll all know I've been committed to mental hospital for crimes against inefffectual doctors

I'm going to doc today - getting a bit concerned that my cycles seem to be getting shorter and shorter. Have cramps today again and am only on CD 19 - I am pretty sure I can't be PG this month as didn't BD at right time, so means AF on way and is getting earlier and earlier.

Hi all, I'm feeling crap today. Did a test yesterday - BFN - why do I do this to myself? It has just made me so depressed and it is my birthday this weekend and I don't want to be depressed. My DH's family are coming round on Saturday morning to say happy birthday - including his 16-week pregnant SIL. GO AWAY I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU!!!!

And then I am going to my family on Sunday which is great cos if I want to cry all day I can and my mum will be there to give me a hug which is what I need right now. But I don't want to spend my whole borthday crying! I'm crying as I write this.

I am full of spots, my boobs hurt a bit and I keep crying, so I hope I either get AF or BFP soon because I can't handle another 42-day cycle like last time (cd30 today).

Arghhhh!!!!!

Hi girls

And hi oinker. Sorry you're in the same sitch as me. Sucks big time, doesn't it.

I believe the steroid treatment is controversial. After my fourth m/c I went to a private guy on Harley Street (Dr Shehata) for all the blood tests, and the only thing that came back abnormal was my level of natural killer cells, which he (and a few others) reckon can attack the placenta as a foreign body. It's essentially an over-active immune system. (A study is being carried out at Liverool hospital into this, too0>

He prescribed steroids to calm down the pesky NK cells. I took them as instructed in my next pregnancy, but miscarried at 11 weeks. However, as it turns out that the baby had trisomy 13, I don't know whether the steroids would have helped or not. Like you, however, I have no other option, so should I get pg again will take them, as they have no adverse side-effects.

However, non-steroid-believers say that
a) it's the number of NK cells in the uterus that matter, not the blood stream, and only a biopsy can tell you that
and
b) the number of NK cells in the blood varies daily, so blood tests are not an accurate indicator.

BUT I know a lady who'd had five mcs then had a successful pg after taking Mr Shehata's steroids, so there may be something in it. NHS doctors can be very dismissive of it, but it may just be a pioneering new treatment that in a few years will be standard practice. And it doesn't do any harm in the meantime...

Hey nh - sorry you are feeling crappy. You cry if you need to hon, and we're here if you need to rant xxx

Hi everyone. I'm hoping you guys can help me. I tested BFP yesterday. Was very excited but then started spotting almost all day yesterday and today. Don't think it's fresh blood but brown/dark red tinged CM when wiped (sorry if TMI). Am so desperately worried it could a sign of m/c as had on in Fed this year at 12 weeks. What should I do????

Call your GP and ask. I don't know about this really but have heard if not fresh blood not too worrying but I would give doctor a call and check out.
Let us know how you get on x

Probably implantation bleed - when was AF due?

Congrats on BFP - I am sure everything will be fine.

Oh Torres sending huge hugs! Hope you get some positive answers soon.

Hang in there Angua & Flosspot ? the wait is horrible.

Jules ? sending you every good vibe I can for that early scan you are so deserving hon! X

Oinker ? I just wanted to wish you all the very best hon, sounds like you are having a stressful time after much heartache, I hope it all works out for you I read a bit about that treatment in Lesley Regan?s book on Miscarriage. I read it after my MC and am so glad I did as it made me get my thrombophilia diagnosed and treated this time round.

I?m good thanks Popsy Had 1st obstetric appointment today, pretty scary how much medical attention I?m going to be getting but it?s all the better for beanie I guess howz you? Hope tomorrow goes well at the Drs.

Hope things went well at the Drs EllieG

Oh NH101 ? sending huge hugs hon, my AF arrived a day early on my birthday last year and I was beside myself because I had been so hopeful of a special pressie. I hope your turn comes around again soon.

Hey Herby hon ? how are you? doing ok?

My1stbaby ? hello you! I?m so sorry, I did not know about your MC in Feb I really hope I?ll be saying congratulations very soon How far along are you? The spotting could be implantation or to do with cervical erosion? It?s good that its dark tinged CM as that normally means its old blood. Any cramps? Get it checked out though is there and Early Pregnancy Unit local to you? You can self-refer and it?ll be quicker than seeing your GP first. I have everything crossed for you xx

Hi nh had to write and say I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL !!!
had exactly the same depression with my birthday last month - bursting into tears all the time and loads of PG symptoms - don't know why it has such an effect but I suppose one year older and no baby just adds to the pressure? I can however say that it has got better since then - I am still in the long cycle game and again today had some small mid-cycle spotting (had loads last month)so no where near out of the horrid woods that are ttc after MC. Don't listen to your pesky body at all - is there to trick you and make you feel rubbish. I think my hormones may be getting better though cos of the spots which have been missing for the last FOREVER. I have also been trying to be a bit philosophical and think that my body is trying to tell me something by not letting me get PG yet - it wants me to sort my head and body out so I can have a fab healthy PG next time! (okay I know this is wishful thinking but I'm trying ha ha)
MrsMc any photos????
myfirst have had same dark red/brown ewcm as you last month and a little today and I'm not PG so think you may have cervical erosion (crossing everything for you anyway!!!!)

Thanks for all the messages of support everyone. Managed NOT to do a pg test this morning, just trying to hold off one day at a time, until there is at least some prospect of a result.

Thanks mrsmcjnr and congratulations to you.

jules99 fingers crossed for you.

flosspot, waiting and worrying right along with you, at the moment, trying not to think things are symptoms as its way to early, but here's hoping. Fingers crossed for you.

Hi all, thank you for all the lovely messages. I really hope it's implantation bleeding. Do you think I could get BFP before implantation? I should read up more about this.

I had a drop of fresh blood last night which is 14dpo. Isn't that too late for implantation? I was also feeling slightly crampy and went to bed early as I was so freaked out. Sad that the age of innocence is all gone...

Anyway, lovely to hear from you mrsmc Glad to hear that all is well with pg.

ellie made an appointment at drs for mon. how are you by the way?

nh haven't heard from you for a while. how are you doing? sorry you've been feeling down lately. {hugs}

gilly good luck with move to london. i've lived here for about 8yrs and loved it, only moved away as can't afford to buy . congratulations on the masters . well done!

take care everyone. wish me luck, think i will need it...thanks

Fingers crossed m1b. That kind of bleeding is amazingly common, as I'm sure people keep telling you. Though it would be good to get to the EPAU for reassurance.

I am now CD 32, and my last cycle was 26 days. AGGG. Feel quite sick. Oh God. Don't want to test, as if it's positive I'll be terrified, and if it's negative I'll be devastated.

Congrats Gilly - we'll buy you a celebratory cake in August!

how are you today my1stbaby?

sorry, only just seen your post keeping everything crossed for you.

hi lissie. i'm feeling a bit numb at the moment. i'm still spotting; dark brown CM, no more fresh blood. but starting to feel slight abdominal contractions. dh and i are fearing the worst .

i'm at work as can't get day off. i keep thinking what if i m/c at the work toilet??? it's a horrible dingy place anyway. a colleague who sits in front of me is 13wks pg. i feel a stab of pain in my heart whenever i look at her. i want to be her so bad!!!!

what about you lissie? how are you doing?

up and down.

have you rang your epu? they should be able to scan you