TTC after pregnancy loss - thread 27 - BFPs are coming!

[Yukka]

New Thread as we're at 988 messages on thread 26. we'll do a quick roll call:
Age 39
TTC x1
MC x 3 = Sept + Dec 2017 + May 2018
Currently pregnant again 5w4ds
Diagnosed with APS/Hughes Syndrome. On Asprin since October and start Heparin tomorrow. First scan Monday.

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@granolacrayons that's what I've read too. I understand waiting until your first period, as this can help flush out anything remaining and prepare your body for pregnancy. She had no real reason for suggesting we wait longer 

As you know AF made her visit on Monday...well this is my second day and i've not bleed enough to fill even one tampon (sorry TMI) Do you think that this is because it's only my 2nd proper AF since my MC. I do normally only have very light periods anyway??

My first AF after my MC was surprisingly light - I had a ERPC so I wondered if maybe it was just the lining taking longer to replenish properly? I don't have any facts to back that up but I think if it's quite normal for you, I'd just keep an eye on it.

For those tracking their ovulation - have a look at ovusense - it's a sensor that measures your BBT overnight (its not as weird as it sounds when you first read about it) and then works out when you've ovulated using an algorithm, it means you don't have to use opks and you don't have to wake up and lie still to do your temps, i used it to conceive this time, ovulate in day 23 of a 32 day cycle so very late, and we'd been missing it every month before because we were aiming for day 19 and were then bored of sex once we thought we'd hit it. It's quite expensive but worth trying for a few months to see a pattern.

@Justincase87 I've just been reading back the past few days to make sure I didn't miss anything and I missed your news about your scan! So sorry! Glad their was a heartbeat and your dates are spot on. Please keep faith and I have everything crossed for you xxxx

@daydreamer1707 I read online that it's normal for the first period to be either heavier or lighter than normal. I normally have relatively heavy/painful periods and it was much heavier/more painful than normal the first time after mc.

@Dimblebimble @Justincase87 it's my 2nd and does seem really light, not going to complain I suppose but it's like it's finished within a couple of hours x

@Dimblebimble usually the doctor will give a reason why you should wait a little. They often say wait a month, but this isn't for medical reasons- it's to date the pregnancy. I also was told I could start trying straight away. I would guess as she didn't give a real reason you could start trying but perhaps get some clarification, just in case?
@DayDreamer1707 Don't worry, cycles and af flow can be a bit odd after a miscarriage. I've had similar cycles like that. It takes a while for hormones to settle down. Af may also stop and start. It will get easier I promise x
@knitkitty the MRI sounds like a really positive step to see what's going on in detail. I'll be thinking of you next week! Glad you've had a nice birthday, you deserve a good rest.

I had my first fertility appointment today and it was a bit of a surprise. In for half an hour and immediately got accepted for IVF without any further tests, we will be put on the waiting list (3 months) and that was it! The consultant said I didn't need my tubes looked at because I can get pregnant and it's clear the problem is on my husband's side (which we have known about for years). I told her about my cycles since the miscarriage and she doesn't think I'm ovulating every month, so has given me a low dose of clomid, so I'll start than next cycle. I'm still in shock, thought it would take months of further testing.

Sorry I've not replied to your posts. I've not been on for a day as I had a proper melt down.

Congrats to those with good news xx
And hugs for those who need one xx

Babt dust and sticky stuff xx

@Mistymeow wow! I bet that's a relief! 3 months isn't long at all either so at least you can relax a little and enjoy time together till the craziness happens! How exciting though. Really pleased your got referred straight away ❤️

I'm sorry if this upsets anyone - but has anyone who is pregnant or had a successful pregnancy had sudden loss of symptoms and then they return a few hours or days later? I'm 6 weeks tomorrow and some days I feel okay. Some days I feel awful. I woke up this morning feeling absolutely fine, but now I feel terrible. I'm really trying hard not to read into anything but I am so anxious I'm going to miscarry again. With my miscarriage in September I had no symptoms whatsoever. I wouldn't have even thought I was pregnant tbh! So this is a hell of a lot more than I had then but I'm just so worried. I want to book a private scan, but think what if the baby dies a few days after 😔 I just want to enjoy this pregnancy but I can't help but question everything. Sorry for the long post xx

Think you was right @Mistymeow AF has decided to continue today I think....my body must still be a little confused. That's good that things are happening quickly for you. Nothing worse than having to wait around and have lots of tests. Once Christmas and new year is out the way you will be half way through the wait nearly.

@MeghanV07 I am sorry you are finding it difficult to relax. I think everyone experiences things different and every pregnancy you will have will be completely different too. I think the ups and downs you are having is just your hormones which is perfectly normal. As silly as it sounds be glad that you are feeling crappy sometimes, means you ARE pregnant.

I am still planning on giving it another go this month with my SMEP. Still an emotional wreck...CD3 😂

Oh @Lilimum5 -I just want to give you a huge hug. Scream, cry, do whatever you have to to get through it. I really feel for you.

Good news @Mistymeow - fingers crossed time goes quickly for you. So pleased you haven't had to wait any longer/fight.

@MeghanV07 it's really hard. With my second pregnancy I was determined to be positive with the "today I am pregnant" mantra. I had very few symptoms with both of mine (swollen boobs and peeing more often/tiredness) and I didn't really notice if they eased off. I think if I was you I'd assume the fact it's coming and going is a good sign. I wanted an early scan because In my head even if I miscarried again (which I did) I wanted evidence my little one existed. The scan pictures I have of both bean and bow are so precious to me.

@DayDreamer1707 I hear you about confused body!! I'm now cd20. And today I got my first high fertility reading on the clear blue opk. I'm so confuddled though. Prior to second MMC I was 26 day cycle. Ov around day 14 and a 12 day luteal phase. It too over 50 days for first af after the miscarriage. I had all the ewcm signs of ov as I expected cd11-14 but no positive opks or high fertility results on clear blue. Then started brown spotting cd16 which has continued, now getting high fertility?!?! What the actual?
Part of me is desperately trying to convince myself I'm pregnant and that spotting is due to implantation and the high fertility is because my estrogen is rising as a result of a new embryo...but my logical brain knows that's not what's happening and it's just my body being rubbish. Gah! Why is this so damn hard?!?

@Meghan07 - this happened to be yesterday and I had a mini meltdown. However I reminded myself it is completely normal for hormones to come and go especially as the weeks pass and you get closer to the placenta taking over - this is when the hormones start to have less work to do. Equally as @Daydreamer1707 says feeling emotional is also normal, so if you need to have a bit of a cry then do, you'll feel better afterwards.

@Mistymeow glad to hear that you are in the path to IVF,that must feel like a relief and great to have a plan x

@Daydreamer1707 - you gotta just keep trying. look after yourself, and it might take a little work but I'm sure you'll get there xx

@meghanV07 @yukka - same for me today - I'm struggling as my last miscarriage the baby passed at 8+4 and I'm currently 8+1 - don't feel pregnant at all today, but hoping I'll start feeling nauseous again soon! It's so bloody hard symptom watching constantly

@meghan07 and @justincase87 are you having any reassurance scans at all? Some places only do this after x3 mcs.

My milestone is 10 weeks... bloody Christmas week. Just got to stay positive though im feeling ok again after mini meltdown. I’m in for another scan next week at 8w4 and I’m going to ask for another in new year week which would make me 10w4.

The penguins by the way is the penguin huddle... they huddle round each other for care and safety x

@Laney79 had a brownish blood clot today and literally no bleeding for the past two days...so confusing. Which will mean I've have the lightest AF ever. I'm hoping this just means it's the end of my AF. But still having slight cramps, just wish I knew what my body was doing 😫. How are you getting on??

@yukka I had a scan at 7+4 which was perfect, not been offered anything extra. I've had a teeny bit of spotting tonight but hoping it was from dtd last night! First time since I found out I was pregnant so it was needed! (Sorry tmi) also have some back pain but I've been sat in a hard chair all day and went straight to bed when I got home. Trying to keep positive but I'm not doing well, it's so hard having to keep a brave face for DH and my parents who keep saying it will all be ok! My 12 week scan is 31st December which feels like a horrible day to have a scan. Will be keeping everything crossed with you X

@DayDreamer1707 it's so frustrating not knowing isn't it. Surely it's bad enough we have to lose our little ones, without having months of worry and uncertainty with our cycles. Fingers crossed it's as you say the end of AF and you are into a fresh cycle.

I got a peak fertility today on the clear blue, and positive ic opks...so the damn clear blue only have one day warning of highfetility rather than the 4 it's meant to (sorry TMI but...) we tried to DTD last night but oh didn't finish and he's woken with a cold this morning so I think that's me out this month. And to top it off if my luteal phase stays consistent AF is due Christmas Day! Merry Christmas Laney 

@Yukka and @Justincase87 keeping everything crossed for both of you-let us know how your scans go?

@Lilimum5 @TinyPaws how are you guys doing? Xxx

@Laney79 well I have had nothing through the night or this morning so looks like its over. Was extremely light and more spotting than an actually flow. Would of understood if this was my first AF since my MC but who knows what our bodies are actually doing. I have never used CB as there so expensive and as you can tell I still don't have a clue about my cycles ha. Not on Christmas Day that is the worst!!!

@Justincase87 I am sure everything is fine but I would feel the same as you. I hope you feel sick soon too in a nice way just so it give you peace of mind.

@Yukka I am consistently having mini meltdowns as the moment or I'm just losing it. Hormones are killing me this month, wish I could blame it on pregnancy but nope....I'm just being a crazy b**ch 😂

@Laney79 I hear that Christmas day period fear. If I go with my usual 33 days from mc to af (everytime same number of days) it works out the Christmas day will be crap for both of us hun. When the universe kicks you it makes sure you stay down. Maybe next year will be our year xx

@TinyPaws how are you hun.
@DayDreamer1707 what a strange af you've had let's hope things are now back to "normal" whatever that is.
@Yukka and @Justincase87 please let us know how you get on
@meghan07 how are you hun
@Mistymeow great to hear your getting somewhere closer to your beautiful rainbow baby x
@Dimblebimble and @granolacrayons and @KnitKitty and @Boboelephant and @Beaglemum93 and @hayleyfx and anyone else I didn't mention I'm thinking of you x

I'm still frustrated with waiting for AF to arrive so that we can try again. But I think we will miss the magic 3 months extra fertile. Also I can't wait to start using my fertility monitor as I will feel more in control again x

@Lilimum5 I know, I sometimes think about just doing a test so I know it wasn't implantation bleeding or anything and I will know it's just my MC a couple of months ago randomly messing me up. When are you due AF? What's the magic 3 months extra fertile....x

@MeghanV07 @Yukka @Russkispy @Mistymeow @KnitKitty Thanks for the support/sympathies

@Mistymeow Congrats on your IVF referral, fingers crossed it works out for you

@Laney79 @Lilimum5 Thanks for asking, I'm not too good. I started to bleed heavily yesterday and it's still in full flow today.

I'm trying to get referred to a recurrent miscarriage clinic as I actually think I had a CP in July of this year, which with this miscarriage takes me to 3. I want to be referred to the clinic at Coventry but my GP doesn't think she's allowed to send me there due to CCG rules as it's technically out of area, although not very far away!

Funny, I thought all this NHS reorganisation etc was supposed to give patients more choice but it seems to have had the opposite effect.

I'll not be able to TTC again until March/April at earliest as going to hopefully get some tests done and switch clinics before transferring our remaining embryo.

@DayDreamer1707 know idea just guessing Xmas day or that week at the moment it's my first af since the mc in October.
The magic three months sujests that you are more fertile for 3 months after mc or birth. I've no idea why

@TinyPaws I'm so sorry hun. I wish words could help you. I'm sending you hugs and healing thoughts xx be kind to yourself

I'll jump in!

This is our 6th cycle, had a loss almost 3 months ago. It still breaks my heart to get AF. hypothyroidism is the culprit according to my endocrinologist

I'm 34, he's 39 and we both have children from previous relationships so we thought it would be easy.

@Lilimum5 maybe I should do a test and see if there's some magic happening to me then...highly doubt it!! I had my MC in October too and this would be my 2nd AF if it was that. Sorry it's taking your body so long but least you will know your body will have had time to recover. I hope it does come soon for you so you can get back on track FX.

@TinyPaws I am so sorry this is happening to you, I will be thinking of you and hope you get your referral x