The Good, The Bad and The Yams!

[LookingAtTheStars89]

CALLING ALL YAMMER'S!

Yammer rules:

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement. Please read the rules before posting!

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shalt not arrive one day and post BFP next day

• Thou shalt not give advice to others when TTC for one month only

• Thou shalt not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month

• Thou shalt not be offended by strong language

• Thou shalt not tell everyone to eat yams

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

• Thou shalt not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if you do so.

NEW RULE ALERT!

-Thou shalt not post pictures of positive pregnancy tests. We will be delighted to hear about it but no photos, please and thank you

I’ve just thrown out my old maternity clothes from last time. I think I’ve about given up. This month was my last chance to have a baby before turning 42 (even writing that I’m still trying at my age seems stupid) and after 2.5 years of trying it seems totally hopeless. We’re theoretically trying till the end of the year but it’s pointless. So there’s my miserable post for the day. 😢

Thanks Spark. Really sorry to hear that milestone :( sending you support tonight like you've just done for me x

Sorry you are feeling sad @SparkwoodAnd21 . These sorts of milestones are tough.

Welcome @JustLikeTheySaid! Hope you're not here long (in the nicest possible way).

AF arrived again for me a few days ago. Focussing on next fertility appt in Oct and hoping we'll be referred for ivf. Going to try reflexology as I've heard it's good for de-stressing if nothing else.

@Sparkwood I'm sorry to hear that. It must be a really tough position to be in: wanting to keep the hope alive but also feeling defeated by it all. Perhaps a bit of non ttc time will help gain a view on things? There are always options like donor egg ivf if you felt that was something you might want to pursue later down the line. Will keep our fingers crossed for a wee miracle for you in the meantime.x

@Chooklass I LOVE reflexology.... so so so relaxing. I always nearly fall asleep in my sessions!

@JustLikeTheySaid Welcome!

@Pinkemi Do they do lots on your feet? My feet are super tickly and I'm worried I won't be able to bear someone touching them!

@Chooklassn its all feet.. I have pretty tickilish feet too and had the same worry.. I guess you wont know unless you try?

So... my meds have been delivered today and im now so nervous! Wish I didnt have to go down this route.

@Si1ver when you were doing IVF.. if you were a few minutes out for the injections did it matter? Im really struggling to find a time that I can do them at the same time every evening... sometimes my commute takes longer than normal.. so 1 night might be 6:38pm, the next 6:45pm. Do you think this matters??

Hi all met my friends 3 week old today ovaries bursting. She knows we've been trying and has had her own long journey herself so let me change nappies, burp and cuddle all I wanted. I know some people find being around babies on this journey hard but I really just need to be around them right now (maybe not on CD1 though) anyway broodier than ever one more baby dance for luck and then to endure the two week wait.

Sounds like a few of you are having hard days today hopefully the group will get some good news soon to perk us all up and provide a bit of hope.

Anyone due around the 5th? I don't POAS anymore but it's nice to have a cycle buddy c

Wondered if any of you lovely ladies can give me some advice about ovulation? I was always a regular 30 day cycle and used the Ovia app to narrow down ovulation, sometimes using sticks in my fertile week to pinpoint the date, sometimes not.
Period was due Sat 15th but amidst lots of pregnancy symptoms, didn’t arrive. Got our first ever BFP on Fri 21st, followed by BFNs on Sat am, Sat pm and Sun am, then again from the nurse on Monday pm. Gutted and confused - no idea what’s gone on. I still haven’t had my proper (normally very heavy) period, despite very light bleeding / traces of bleeding since Wed 19th.
Not sure if I should count this bleeding as my period or just spotting? The app has deleted all future predicted dates which I always went by. Trying to figure out how to calculate rough future ovulation dates? What date do I work from? I know I could do daily tests but just wondered if anyone could help me narrow the timescale down a bit?
Any advice, oh wise ones? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hmm, it's so frustrating when your body throws you a curve ball like that @Teachermummy83. I had a similar bfp-then-bfn experience a few months back but it didn't seem to affect my cycle. When I had flu last winter af was about 10 days late so OV must have been delayed. Had you been ill last cycle? Or really stressed? Unfortunately I think peeing on lots of sticks might be the way forward

Thanks @chooklass.
That’s reassuring your cycle didn’t shift too far - i’ll start OPKs and hopefully I’m still on track.
No, haven’t been ill or particularly stressed. I’ve been very busy at work but that’s normal for the start of term! At least I know a BFP is possible now, even if it didn’t last. Maybe next month.......
Good luck to you too x

Sorry to ask @Chooklass, but did you ever get an explanation for your BFP / BFN situation? I’d love to know what caused it, but when I mentioned it to the nurse, he wasn’t too sure. Just wondered what yours turned out to be?

@Pinkemi I don't think five minutes here or there will matter too much lovely. However, I did mine at 8pm each night. I bought a drugs cool bag as well, so the one time I wasn't home at 8pm I nipped to the restaurant toilet and did the injection there. Fortunately it was still Gonal F in a pen injector at that point. I'm not sure I'd have liked to have been mixing the cetrotide powders and liquid while balancing on the bog.

It was something like this I had

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0757RPZVB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ref=plSrch&keywords=cold+bag+medication&dpPl=1&dpID=51rLX-1U9fL&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1537950107&sr=8-1

I didn't use it much but it was reassuring to have anyway.

@Si1ver The issue i have is when I have to do the morning ones. They said it has to be 12hrs between them so like 7am and 7pm. The evening ones are the Gonal F Pen so not too bad.. its the morning ones that Ill have to mix up. Anyway.. the issue is this...

To get to the scans in the morning.. I will have to leave home at 6:45am. I dont get home till gone 6:30pm (depending on traffic.)

I guess i just have to hope that 15mins here or there is not going to make much of a difference.

My fridge is chocka with all this medication! Wont be able to have anyone over for the next month incase they see it all. haha

Oooh that medicine cool bag looks good.. I was going to use just a food cool bag to keep my meds in... Which actually might be better for the days that I have to go to acupuncture.. will need to bring the needles into work and keep them in the work fridge. Dont want to make it obvious that they are medicine.

urgh.. if only i had a sabbatical!

Oh interesting. I only had one shot a day.

I did a short protocol. I had 275ml of GonalF once a day then added in the cetrotide for the last five days then triggered with something else beginning with O, which I appear to have forgotten.

I think what I'd do in your position is have your morning shots at a set time (6.30 for example) last thing you do before you leave the house, then grab a cold bag for your evening meds and that way of you're delayed you'll not be panicking.

You might be best placed to ask on the infertility boards about this. I remember doing all of mine at a set time, but I think the really important one was the trigger, where it had to be bang on timewise.

Interesting how much I've protectively blanked out about the process already 😂

@Teachermummy83 I've no idea. It was a faint FRER line so false positive seems unlikely, but all bfn's after that. Didn't go to gp as didn't think they'd be able to do anything. So I don't really know if it was a chemical preg or a dodgy FRER. It's the only sniff of a bfp I've had in 19 cycles. Happened on my birthday too, so felt like it was meant to be - really tough to deal with . Be kind to yourself in the next few weeks.

@Si1ver Good news! I checked with my nursing team and they say that the morning injection has to be taken between 6-8am and the same for the evening injection. As long as its between those times and i stick to the same time every night, I am okay! Phew!

So morning injection (when i start them) will be 6:30am and evening ill do 8pm to make sure I am comfy at home. Bit of good news for the day! =]

@Teachermummy83 Sorry your going through this. I wish I could help but I have never seen even a glimmer of a BFP in the 17 months we have been TTC.

Second baby bomb this week. Ugh. They got bfp first month of trying. Trying to be happy for them and not managing!

@Chooklass I also got a baby bomb today when scrolling through facebook. I quickly scrolled past the post and tried to pretend I hadn't read it! (hug)

I'm gonna see this one at work most days 😭! The other one can be hidden from my fb timeline if necessary!!

Don't know what I'd do without this thread to vent on! You're all ace xx

I totally agree @Chooklass, it’s tough. I didn’t go to the gp either, just asked the nurse during an unrelated appointment. Just hate not having answers. Must be the curse of the birthdays as my birthday had been my ovulation day for that cycle too 😔. Im convinced it wasn’t a dodgy test because the symptoms I’d had for that entire week were so weird, but I suppose we’ll never truly know.
@Pinkemi, thank you. This was our first ever BFP in a very long period of trying too, so very hard. Fingers crossed I can work out my cycle quickly to get us back on track.
Mother Nature surely owes one of us some luck soon?!?

Hello everyone, just thought I'd check in and say hi and sending good vibes to everyone. @Pinkemi sounds full on, I take my (metaphorical) hat off to you xxx @Chooklass I second that you guys all kept me sane during the madness and I'll always be grateful.

8+2/40 now, nausea is a fixture of my life but I'm told this is a sign things are as they should be. We've started referring to our little one as our dumpling (we're Asian so it seemed appropriate). Mum looked up its Chinese zodiac animal and it's to be born in the Year of the Pig, so guess it's a little pork dumpling!!!

That's brilliant @BGDino, I'm so pleased it's working out.

I'm so happy to hear that your little pork dumpling is doing well @BGDino!

I just treated myself to a haircut to cheer myself up after AF and 2 x baby bombs in last week... and just ended up with hairdressers massive pregnant belly squished into my side for the last hour! Got to see the funny side though!! Next time I'll just buy chocolate. At least chocolate can't get pregnant before me!!