Long cyclers we re the last ones standing in the tww and we re not taking it anymore guzzle down your grapefruit juice and pop those b6 pills..short cycle we re coming for you!

[thisisouryrfx18]

Looking for luvely ladies with long cycles who want to swap tips on how to shorten your cycle..doesnt matter how bonkers I ve tried it all !😘

[flyingplum]

Thanks @Aph413 - I've definitely heard it advocates to counter the effects of falling oestrogen in menopause, but I'm more unsure about in TTC. I'd be keen to know mainly because I've been avoiding soya, but I'm not a massive fan of oat milk in my tea and I miss my tofu 😂

[Aph413]

This has taken me a little while and I may be falsely understanding it This study is where I got my info, more specifically this:
Soy isoflavones are heterocyclic phenols with structural similarity to estradiol-17beta and selective estrogen receptor modulators.
And the idea of it helping fertility comes from the fact that clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator itself.
I don't understand the exact science of it all and I haven't yet looked up any studies on dietary soya but I'll get back to you if I find anything.

[Aph413]

This article talks of research showing soy is safe during ttc and also mentions it helps offset the effect of BPA's

The other article I found was this that mentions possible negative effects on male fertility but mainly mentions avoiding soy as a nursing mother.

I found the section in this paper on interactions with hormones interesting

Enough research for one night not the easiest on my phone.

[FlapJackered]

urghh I am on day 48. I hate these long cycles! I don't know whether to try and mess around with it with Agnus Castus/B6 etc as Natural Cycles says I am Ovulating and I don't want to mess that up.

[Aph413]

@FlapJackered it's hard but I'd wait for a new cycle before trying anything new. Its the approach I'm taking just incase

[thisisouryrfx18]

@FlapJackered its soo frustrating people with a 28day cycle dnt know how gd they have it! Ive been trying to temp past few days but my temps seem to b all over the place either my thermometer is crap or al need to start doing it vaginally (tmi)thats what apps suggesting. What do yous think?

[Aph413]

thisisouryr I do vaginal temps. More accurate although mine are still all over the place. Don't change this cycle though, I switched mid cycle and messed up my charting

[FlapJackered]

@Aph413 Good thinking!

@thisisouryrfx18 - I know! If only they knew! I would be happy if mine even got slightly shorter. Each cycle it seems to lengthen by 10 days.
Have you tried calibrating your thermometer? Just do 3 readings back to back to check they are coming out pretty much the same. It should tell you how reliable your thermometer is.

[thisisouryrfx18]

@FlapJackered yh different temperature everytime think the thermometers shit why is nuthing simple😠 just bought it and its saying low already must mean the battery gonna send the company a cheeky email telling them I want my money back..neway how are all of yous getting on what cds are yous on?

[Aph413]

thisisouryr If the thermometer says lo it doesn't mean low battery it means its ready to read. If it says low then thats the battery. What make is yours? Mine was just a cheap babymad one from amazon and it was pretty good.

I'm currently cd42 and finally 3dpo. We did 4 days in a row over my fertile window so I'm actually a little hopeful. As long as I did in fact ovulate when the opk said I did.
Where are you at now?

[thisisouryrfx18]

@Aph413 yh mine is a baby mad one too it says lo im an idiot haha im on cd10 but i just dont know when im due to ovulate ive not been taking temps long enough for the app to know and with me having a 42day cycle normally but last one being 32or 33 its threw off my estimation lol im still peeing on opks everyday still not had a positive 1but it is early on my cycle. Fx for u looks like ur in with a gd chance this month.

[Aph413]

Just keep going with it all and it should start to show you. Clearblue says test 17 days before your shortest period. I also definitely recommend testing 2 or 3 times a day once you get close to when you think you'll ovulate. That's the only way I caught mine.

[thisisouryrfx18]

Thanks @Aph413 all this ttc crap is like a part time job lol i get up take temps put them on app drink my raspberry leaf tea pee on an opk get on with my day. Then its back to take vits iron etc wash it down with oj pee on an opk few hrs later pee on an opk its soo repititive. Not to mention I now have to set a stupidly early alarm even on my day off so I can take my temps more accurately. Really pissing me off at the min😠

[Aph413]

I completely get it thisisouryr it's like a miltary operation. Not sure why they spend so long in school telling you you'll get pregnant at the drop of a hat when it seems the reality for most people is trying damn hard. So ready for a baby now it's unreal, I keep getting adverts for baby stuff and it's depressing.

[thisisouryrfx18]

@Aph413 I know I was just under the impression when I was younger if u got af things were working fine suppose they try to scare teenagers but Im honestly amazed anyone gets pregnant from a 1nite stand!😂 Im the same with the ads think its cause we ve been googling pregnancy tests etc but are they trying to rub salt in the wounds..speaking of salt in the wounds found out another family member is pregnant last nite, trying to be happy for them but its bloody hard ttc is turning me into a bitter bitch!

[thisisouryrfx18]

@Aph413 was just reading u should eat pineapple core after ovulation btw give it a bash lol

[Aph413]

I've taken the approach of just not caring about other pregnancies. It hurts too much to think about, especially seeing someone I know get pregnant then drink and smome throughout pregnancy and was left wondering why the baby weighes less than 4lbs when born 3 weeks early. Made me very angry.
Can't eat pineapple core, I'm allergic to the fruit. Maybe I'll look for bromelain supplements.

[Aph413]

Ok the bromelain supplements exist and the internet says only ingest 70-80mg a day so if anyone tries it I suggest looking for 40mg tablets which do exist

[thisisouryrfx18]

@Aph413 wow some ppl just dont appreciate how lucky they are its sickening how could they do that to a baby! Did they take the baby into custody when it was born?

[Aph413]

Nope they still have the baby. Hopefully theyre taking bettet care of it now but who knows.

[thisisouryrfx18]

@Aph413 no wonder it made u angry! Hope that the babys k bloody shame..on a lighter note ive done an opk today and its the strongest line ave had in ages not strong enough to be positive but fx in the next couple of days they get darker

[Aph413]

Fingers crossed for you! I had enough of doubting the ones where I needed to check the line which is why I got the digitals from groupon this cycle

[thisisouryrfx18]

Thanks @Aph413 im the same keep meaning to order the digital ones but a girl on another thread said to me use the ic just now until im closer to the middle of my cycle then use the digital ones more chance of me ovulating then. Fx im not getting my hopes up for no reason. So when do u think ur due af when will u be testing for bfp😆

[Aph413]

Latest I'm due if everything has gone right is 13th May and the testing date I've been given by fertility friend is the 10th May

[Aph413]

Pressed post too soon. I agree with waiting to use digitals, but they are fantastic at removing all doubt.
In other news. My ovusense arrived today! Looks like a giant sperm haha!