I yam what I yam

[Bubblegum89]

Thread 6... 😑

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement. Please read the rules before posting!

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shalt not arrive one day and post BFP next day

• Thou shalt not give advice to others when TTC for one month only

• Thou shalt not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month

• Thou shalt not be offended by strong language

• Thou shalt not tell everyone to eat yams

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

• Thou shalt not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if you do so.

NEW RULE ALERT!

-Thou shalt not post pictures of positive pregnancy tests. We will be delighted to hear about it but no photos, please and thank you

@SoozC I've never been so desperate for someone else to test!

I've spotted pre af for most of this year and it defo hasn't stopped me getting pregnant. 4th time and counting. Staying that way, not so much...

Hello Bridget. Meh is fairly standard round here.

Sparkwood! That's exciting stuff. Moving forward at least.

Of course I want to see you all duffed, but Sooz I'm hoping so much your acupuncturists smile was a smug one!

As for me, I had a brainwave and rang the epu this morning. They said the gynae woman yesterday was talking shit. Emailed Miss M (miscarriage consultant) or her secretary asking for immediate attention and booked me for a scan on Friday which could be 5 weeks. Or 6. Or 4. No one knows. I then did a Boots digi, no chemical yet, showing bfp. Then the community midwife rang back, said to start booking in next week and try to stay positive. She sees recurrent miscarriage a fair lot, but says 4 consecutive is something she has only seen once or twice.

I still feel about as fatalistic as it comes, but I'm trying

Oh and Sooz, my heart rate defo goes up a couple of days after implantation, Fitbit says so. Hoping that's a great sign.

Jaggy you sound like me! Until recently I lived on fizzy sweets 😳 and then I read that sugar can cause hormonal imbalances so I’m now cold turkey on sweets, but still eating sugar in standard food (such as jars of pasta sauce and the odd chocolate biscuit). I really craved it to begin with, but I’m finding it easier now. I’m hoping that it’ll help me conceive (and isn’t really hurting anyway).

Sooz that sounds so promising!

My rhr usually goes up after ovulating, and then plummets the day AF arrives. This month I think I ovulated on Friday (I’m not tracking, but my cm would point to it being around then) and today my rhr had dropped by 5bpm! Maybe it’s because I’ve not been at work since Friday and it’s the longest I’ve had off since October 🤷‍♀️

@DoAsDreamersDo. I am on day two of no sugar and IT IS KILLING ME! I have become almost addicted to it over the last few months so cutting sugar out for me is going to be really hard (I'm not saying its any harder for me than anyone else) If I thought you could do it and not be 50st or in a diabetic coma lol I would say sugary things all day everyday!

I want my PCOS to he more controlled and I certainly don't want it to get worse!

@LimpLettice. Thinking of you x x

@SoozC. Fingers crossed for you x x

Looking it honestly gets easier x I found that if I drank a glass of water every time I craved sweets it took my mind off it. I think I ate sweets due to boredom.

June, I'm going to test at the weekend. If it's positive I dint want to have to then rush off to work!

Jaggy, I think between 13-16dpo. I wasn't tracking bbt or using opks so not sure exactly when I ov'd. Plus I took maca which I think may have thrown me off usual ov window but not sure if it did or not. Basically, I don't know!

Si1ver, how I've managed not to yet is beyond me!

So I have a fitbit, Limp. Rhr been as high as 69bpm 5 days out of last 8 or so. But last two days have been at 67. Before ov I was around 63-65 bpm rhr. So I guess if it stays elevated for the next couple of days that's good. But every chance tomorrow it'll have fallen.

I'm impressed at all those who have/are cutting out our reducing sugar. I have tried with caffeine but not tried sugar. I've heard it can do great things but think I'd find it really hard.

@SoozC. I am sat scowling at an orange, wishing it was a chocolate orange lol. I've told DH not to bring chocolate into the house. I have no will pose if it's around!

Hi - was on previous threads, but dropped off to lurking on the last one!

Just wanted to wish you all the best, and thinking of you limp

Am still around, no luck yet, in the unexplained camp...

Thanks for the new thread, bubble!

Oh, Looking, I'm craving a chocolate orange now!!

My DH is a freak who can make one last about 6 months. It drives me crazy, sitting there in the fridge all that time... Sadly, he doesn't have one there at the moment or I'd go a nick a segment.

@SoozC that sounds exciting! Got everything crossed for you x

@LookingAtTheStars89 I'm on day 9 of new PCOS diet. Basically following LowGI/ insulin resistance guidelines. Been some tough days, especially with AF as I've had days of awful cramps this month and just want comfort food (ie chocolate!) but am proud of sticking to it! Feels good to be doing something positive and my skin is already lots better which I think is a good sign.

sooz I’m excited for you!!! How you can wait that long to test is beyond me haha

I’ve spent most of the evening hogging my baby niece. My sister was telling us about her friend who is pregnant (been with her bf 5 minutes) which was fun. I’ve got family over from Belfast and they keep commenting on how content my niece is when she’s with me as opposed to anyone else. I’m so good with babies, just wish I had my own to keep content lol

@Chooklass. Are you following it from a book? I feel lost at sea with this whole PCOS thing!

Is this another thread I can join?! I’m not sure if I fit in but having investigations etc so seems like lots of you can relate to that.

Have an almost 4 year old, I’m 35. Always thought we’d aim for a 4 year age gap (mainly due to the crazy cost of childcare and housing in london). Had unplanned pregnancy about 2 years ago- needed in miscarriage at 5 weeks, was fairly relaxed about it. Started TTC last summer- started off pretty laid back- period was 10 days late the first month and never tested- as I’m usually like clockwork I assume that was another early loss. In September had another BFP, miscarriages just before 6 weeks. Conceived again in December but had a horrible MMC at 9 weeks which culminated in failed medical management, a nasty infection, ERPC and in total 3 weeks of antibiotics and 6 weeks of bleeding. So it’s fair to say I’m fairly fed up!

To top it all off an abnormal smear picked up a short cervix, and ultrasounds are very suggestive of lower uterine adhesions- which I had long suspected as my periods have been very very light since DD was born (so I understand where @Bubblegum89 is coming from). Genetics from ERPC are 46XX- ie either normal female or contaminated by my cells.

On the upside I’ve just had the heaviest period I’ve had in years so am half hopeful that the ERPC magically helped my useless uterine lining.

Current plan is recurrent miscarriage clinic next week, have had first set bloods done. Then hopefully hysteroscopy and cervical cerclage in May/June. Which will possibly be followed by a few months of medication to stop periods and allow healing (hopefully not going to be needed). So I can’t really TTC for the next few months but was planning to track my cycle in the meantime, try out temping and get healthier (comfort eating through recurrent miscarriages is not good for the waistline).

Gosh @Paranormalbouquet, that's quite the journey you've had so far Welcome to Yamsville x

Hi, Para, you can certainly come on in. I'm sorry to hear of your losses and there are others here who have suffered like yourself. Make yourself comfy and don't worry if we're not a bundle of positivity - most of us are so over this whole malarkey by now!

I sated my chocolate craving with a Weight Watchers caramel wafer bar. Not as good as a chocolate orange, but it'll do. Thank goodness the Sainsbury's delivery turned up an hour early.

Bubble, I have managed not to test yet purely because I don't want to see another bfn. It's enough to make me not even LOOK at the tests in the bathroom. Plus, I think I only have one FRER and one digi left and I'm too cheap to buy more.

@Sooz I have a Fitbit, my HR starts to go up after ovulation, peaks around 4 days after ovulation then drops a bit. Always goes back up and then drops again on day 2 of my cycle. So it’s not very predictive for me as my period starts before it drops, but I see it is for other people. I also get fits of mad exercise which affects it. And for the past 6 weeks have had one infection after the other so it’s been hard to track, as it keeps shooting up when I’m sick.

I’m cutting back on sugar too, as I really need to lose weight before surgery.

Things I don’t find comforting- “at least you know you can get pregnant”- after 3 consecutive miscarriages why would anyone think that’s comforting?! “Being positive gives you the best chance going forward”- actually no, finding out why I’m miscarrying and treating that gives me the nest chance going forward!

Sorry Para x-post. Pom poms aimed at sooz
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Para* Your last paragraph is so accurate x

Sorry for the ranting by the way- had lots of well meaning but ultimately irritating comments today! @Sooz I completely understand the hesitancy about testing- I fear testing because equal parts of me want a positive test but yet am terrified of a positive test in case more miscarriages.

Welcome paranormal :) you’ve been on quite a journey, I’m sure you’ll fit in just fine here. I have a 9 year old daughter from a previous relationship and have been pregnant before with my partner and so have plenty of times been told “you know you can get pregnant” or “you’ve been pregnant before, you’ll get pregnant again” even by fertility specialists who I don’t think should be allowed to say things that unhelpful. Recurrent miscarriage must be awful to deal with. Uterine scarring was a big fear of mine (still is) but glad to hear you’ve had a better period. That can help curb a bit of the worry! Lots of luck for your tests next week :)

sooz I totally get you. Someone on a ttc fb group told me I should take a test because of my two day period/zero spotting as I could be pregnant. I’ve seen blood so I’m not going anywhere near any tests. I honestly think seeing a stark white preg test is worse than seeing that first bit of af bleeding when you’ve been for a wee. Keeping everything crossed for you though!

Wonky, that made me smile! Hope you get a chance to use them! ;)

Para, I know how you feel, even though I've only had one mc myself last autumn. I'll be so happy but equally really worried. We've been trying two years. Both shit situations you and I are in.

@SoozC I've officially given up on myself so emotionally investing in strangers on the internet is the natural next step 😉 I shall be the official Yam cheerleader