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TTC after MC April 07 - Return to the Mother Ship

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popsy76 · 27/04/2007 13:32

Hi Ladies, thought I would just grab the bull by the proverbial horns and get this going. Hope the name is okay. MrsMc I am afraid we will all be thinking of you and your DH (and his light saber) everytime we post

Too many individual posts to go back and answer so I thought I'd start with a positive message for all of us from the March thread and for any MC newbies...

Today is my 1 month MN anniversary and I do not know what I would have done without you all. It is the ability to get on here and "let it all out" that keeps me going. I have been blessed to have found you all and whatever lies in my future - your kindness and advice will stay with me forever.

Big Love and Hip hip hooray for a fabulous new positive thread POPSY xxxx

p.s. Gilly get your arse down to london - we can drink the bars dry of Rose (purely medicinal of course )

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torres · 07/06/2007 14:16

Hi Gilly- welcome to London! It's freezing here- I've got a fan heater blowing on my toes!

popsy76 · 07/06/2007 15:12

ladies couldn't manage my wine at lunch - felt too queasy and hot flushes - been like this for a few days now... smells making me feel ill
Oh god I have been here too often but this feels different (god will be one hell of an AF if it is)
Too scared to test (on day 34 yikes)
xxxxxx

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EllieG · 07/06/2007 15:35

Ooo exciting! wouldn't that be a nice birthday present!

torres · 07/06/2007 15:44

popsy- sounds really positive!! fingers crossed xxxx when is AF due, do you know?

MrsMcJnr · 07/06/2007 16:08

Sorry I disappeared yesterday ? threw myself into work and tried to forget about the spotting. It seems a lot less today so I am feeling happier. I spoke to the midwife at the EPU who I?d seen on Tues and she said to keep an eye on things but that brown blood was old and so had not been to do with a bleed in the preceding 24 hours and therefore, what we saw on the scan should be the right state of affairs but if the spotting got red, I was to go in immediately as they would have to manage the Clexane as well as re-scan me. She did say it is not unusual to spot at this stage. I have a haem appointment on Monday and my booking in on Weds so will mention it to both of them. Let?s hope there is no more!

Thanks Torres & Lissie I was exhausted all day but think that was just worry. I slept a lot better last night and feel a lot more positive today.

Herby & Torres ? just something I was thinking when reading your posts, one of the signs of depression is finding decision making hard and exhausting and whilst I know that the decisions we are talking about here and complex and emotive, please seek help if you are finding it hard to cope. It is so incredibly hard to get to grips with what you have been through.

Popsy ? indeed they do! I guess we forget how fragile life is when we go about our day to day. Thanks for the support and affection Happy birthday! may all your dreams come true ? I hope you?ve made a wish. I did on my B?day (even though AF had arrived that day! ) and it has come true!

NH101 ? sorry about AF but remember that this is the start of a new cycle and that means new hope! If the old cycle wasn?t the ?one?, it?s best that it?s now over! Thanks for the positive thinking ? you are right about the HB, let?s hope my beanie is a fighter! You know you can share any of your thoughts here that you can?t share in RL, I am sorry that SIL?s happiness is happening at a time when you are so raw

Iwillbe rest did help (and Cadburys fruit and nut cuddled up to DH! ) thank god he was home, he is away overnight tonight sorry that your friend?s news made you feel sad, huge hugs, we all understand

Thanks Myfirstbaby

Mumto3girls ? I?ve been thinking about you. Stay strong. I hoped that if the worst was true and your beanie was an angel, that it would all be gone. That is what happened with me and I was so relieved that I was no longer in limbo and could grieve and heal. I hope you get some peace soon. I was tested for lupus a few years back. What made them consider testing you do you know? Thanks for your thoughts for me. Spotting is one of the things I know a bit about after last time I know all the stats, ½ bleed and a ¼ of them are fine but when you have been one of the unlucky 1/4 , all you can imagine is being there again . I read that having a positive outlook can influence outcome so I am trying hard but it?s a self defence mechanism I guess to think the worst.

Thanks EllieG Re OV, generally OV calendars pinpoint OV at cd14. Not that many people actually OV on cd14 but you can OV anytime between about cd8 and cd20odd and beyond depending on the length of their cycle. If you have a regular 28 day cycle then chances are you OV around cd14. Ideally, you want to have at least 10 days after OV before AF each cycle or else there is a risk that your lining is breaking down too quickly and would not support a pregnancy. The fact that you have been pg suggests that that is not likely to be an issue for you. I have a 28/29 day cycle and usually OV either CD17/18 but I only know that from months of charting and getting to know my body. To learn exactly when you OV takes some time and effort (recording temps etc) but a really good indicator is your CM. Basically; you should aim to have sex on every day that you have EWCM as those are likely to be your fertile days. OPKs can help pinpoint OV but they can also really stress you out which in turn can delay OV so beware. Some people (especially people with PCOS) get lots of false +ives throughout their cycles. This is because we can have LH (the hormone needed for OV) surges and then not necessarily OV. There were a few cycles where I got ?ive OPKs throughout but I know I did OV from my temps. My best advice would be to use them as back up of your own thoughts on your CM. Then make sure that you have sex on every day that you get a +ive around the time you have EWCM as those are bound to be your most fertile days. Best time to do OPKs is between 10am and 6pm, I personally find the later the better and sometimes it?s worth trying twice in a day when you really think you are about to OV. Don?t worry about storing up pee for the test; it?s not needed for this type. Also, just a tip, elevated hips after sex mean that the sperm has nowhere to go but the right direction

Hello Kensgirl ? no internal scan this time but I am trying to put the brown spotting down to cervical erosion and telling myself that it was too much of a coincidence that it happened the day my AF would have been due. Thanks for the positive vibes keep us posted x

Harveysaunt ? deep breath, just take each day as it comes, that is the only way to get through the early days. Take great care of yourself and tell DH you need to be babied (it may take a while to get through ? I?m 8 weeks and DH is finally being protective! ) Try not to be scared, this baby needs to know you want it and it can feel your vibes. You have every chance of success this time, you have to tell yourself that, the slate is clean and this is a new beginning The thing is that expecting the worst and not letting yourself enjoy what is happening does us no good at all, if things go wrong again, that reservation of feeling won?t help us and if all goes well, we are delaying the wonderful and essential feeling of bonding with our baby. I do appreciate that it can be subconscious, I recognise that my holding back has not been deliberate but I definitely have been. Just do whatever feels right for you, tell people if you need to, don?t if you don?t. Have you bought any books? I like ?What to expect when you are expecting? and Miriam Stoppard?s Childbirth bible. Oh, and protect your assets, get a new, properly measured bra as soon as you can (its not tempting fate, it?s for your benefit, not the baby?s!) and moisturise your body as much as you can to avoid stretch marks The PG after MC thread helps me an awful lot

Gilly ? all sounds exciting in the big smoke!

mumto3girls · 07/06/2007 16:14

Thanks MrsMcJr...i had blood tests done for hcg levels and they still are 5100..even though my initial mc started on 26th May bleeding and ended three days ago.

I have to go back tomorrow for a followup test as there was definitely nothing visible in my womb so they have to rule out ectopic...although I have had no pain so very much doubt that.

They tested for lupus and thyroid function as we already had all chromosomal tests done before and these are the only standard tests done for recurrent mcs at our hospital.

I know i have no symptoms of lupus...

torres · 07/06/2007 16:21

oh MrsMc I am so glad you are ok- I have been fretting! Its good you have a couple of hospital appointments coming up so at least you can get more medical reassurance. The midwife you spoke to sounds very helpful. I hope you can breathe out now!

Your comments on depression are interesting. I am feeling overwhelmed by everything and still feel on edge. The slightest thing stresses me out. I've got some acupuncture booked tonight and I'm off on holiday next week for a fortnight so I'm hoping I will be able to get a bit more strength and cope with life a bit more. But if not I've promised DH I will go to the GP as its not fair laying all my stresses on him.

kensgirl · 07/06/2007 17:22

Hello All!

Ooh, Popsy, things are sounding good for you! How long is your cycle normlly? fingers crossed for you x

Good news today, Mrsmc!! I'm really relieved for you that the spotting has settled. At least the midwife has been reassuring, you seem much more positive today, , keep us posted! I neeeeed everything to be fine for you, your my inspira

tion for my future...

Mumto3 - hope you are OK, thinking of you. I know it takes hcg a while to leave the body. Look after yourself {hug}.

Torres - where are you off to on your hols? I bet the relaxation and time way from every day reality is just what you need. I'm also feeling very emotinal and edgy, poor dh keeps getting the sharp end. I think we are going to book a holiday on Sat, so I could do with some inspiration. Dh wants to go to the Maldives, but I don't know if the weather is good there in August, or if we need to stay in Europe.

Good luck in London Gilly! Are you house hunting this weekend?

Hope everyone else is well x

alittlebitshy · 07/06/2007 17:48

ooh popsy!!! what is your normal cycle length (if indeed you have one post m/c)?!

I am usually approx but not precisely 30 days. day 31 today but the day is not over yet so i'm trying not to get hopes up. If no af by morning i am going to test (waited til day 35 last time when pg) because a) i'm out in the eve and i want to know if i can have a glass of rose if i want and b) (and this is the one dh thinks is a solid reason for testing rather than a) lol) i have the dentist tomorrow and i remembered earlier that i declined an xray last time, so they may be keen to do one, so as there IS a chance I am pg i ought to try to find out . I may well decline again anyway even if bfn just in case.

very very crampy, achy, twingy tummy, sore boobs but it may all be af. wee-ing a lot (although it may be that i'm knicker checking and wee-ing while in there lol) and v windy and a bit upset tummyish )i get that with af though not normally before it). Only other significiant thing that is possibly different is that on about day 16 ish I had pink tinged cm... hmm. oh and i seem to still have a lot of cm at the moment. keep worrying that maybe i'm oving now in a long cycle but i do have aches that are not consistent with ov.

argh!!

obv want a bfp but also sh*t scared that i'll have bleeding again...

basilbrush · 07/06/2007 19:18

Just to let you know I haven't left yet, I think about you girls all the time and am regularly checking posts...a whopping 5 weeks today but haven't joined AN thread yet as am big , fat scaredy cat (well, actually, a bit less fat, have lost 3lbs since getting bfp, have decided it's prob stress - god, it's crap isn't it, we stress if we aren't pg, we stress if we are...) My life consists of tweaking nipples to see if still sore and going to loo every hour to stare at pants. Tragic isn't the word And I'm supposed to be the yogic, bread baking zen girl on the thread...
MrsMc Thrilled to here things seem to be OK
harveysaunt you mysterious laydee you! Congrats and heed MrsMc's wise and wondrous words (like I can talk)
popsy and littlebit sounds promising - am a rootin' for you!!

WinkyGirl · 07/06/2007 21:05

Basilbrush MrsMc Harveysaunt Hope you and your little bumps are ok. MrsMc glad that the midwife was reassuring!

nh101 sorry that your AF arrived. Mine has too but thanks for asking torres EllieG we were using online ovulation calendar to NOT get pg so we thought one week after they said I would be fertile was safe sex but thats how we got DD! A happy accident! I agree with MrsMc I am fertile around 17/18 according to DD conception and OPK.

Popsy Happy bday! Hope you get BFP as belated bday present!

Gilly have a fab time in London!!

Love to everyone else. I am handling AF and therefore no PG with wine! Am planning to crack open a rose this weekend in honour of Popsy

popsy76 · 07/06/2007 22:17

back from dinner - have not breathed thru nose all night- so sick!
Defo know I am PG
defo not testing cos will just make me think is real and I am determined not to think is real til baby here ha ha
DH says same when i asked why he is not freaking out
am CD34 so is that nearly 5 weeks? YIKES
maybe will test after all
aaaiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
god am gonn feel stupid if this a big body-hoax
Torres I get great help from counsellor - is like a weight off your shoulders
everyone nearly deleted this post cos is like tempting fate - oh well ou have all seen me thru the worst of times and I know you'll be there whatever happens

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popsy76 · 07/06/2007 22:18

p.s. what a strange birthday???

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basilbrush · 08/06/2007 08:13

popsy did you test this morning???!!!!!

lissie · 08/06/2007 08:16

mrs mcj, so glad everything seems to be ok.
popsy, go on... test, you know you want to!

hi all are you well?

ronshar · 08/06/2007 12:27

I think I am going crazy. All I can think about is being pregnant but then I know that I wont get pregnant like that and then I cant stop thinking all over again.
I find alcohol is the best conception tool for me but even that isnt working. I also want to say I so hope you are pregnant Popsy, you so deserve it for being so brave and helping all of us work our way through our m/c misery.

kensgirl · 08/06/2007 12:39

Fingers crossed for you Popsy!Have you tested yet?

Well, no luck for me this month . Cd 1 today, just happened this morning , but not full on yet. I'm feeling very crap as this was my last go before my due date of July 1st. i reaaly thought I would be pg again now, and am now feling like a failure, and starting to worry that something is wrong. My cycles are short, about 23 or 24 days, sometimes a bit longer (25 last time), and I ov around day 11 if tende boobs, cramps, and slightly pink cm is anything to go by. Off to cry now, may go and stay in the hut for a bit

MrsMcJnr · 08/06/2007 13:04

Mumto3girls ? sorry you are going through what you are. Sending huge hugs. How did the follow up go?

Thanks Torres, you are sweet! same MW wasn?t so nice this morning. I called to say that whilst the spotting had stopped, I really felt that I would benefit from a reassurance scan before I go on hols next Sat. She said quite curtly that they didn?t do those but then started asking weird questions that made me realise she didn?t have a clue who I was even though she said initially she knew my history, she did apologise and conceded that as a high risk case my position was different but she still won?t scan me again I?m sure the acupuncture and the holiday will help you a lot, life can be so tiring and it?s nice to get time out, do see your GP when you get back though if you feel the same, take good care

Kensgirl ? thanks happy holiday hunting we wanted to go to the Maldives for our Honeymoon last year but decided against it because the Summer can be dodgy weather-wise Sorry about AF hon sending you huge hugs

Alittlebitshy ? everything crossed x

Basil ? hello!

Winkygirl thanks! Sorry about AF hon, sending hugs x enjoy the wine

Popsy wow! All this sounds exciting! What?s the latest?

Hey Lissie

Sorry you are feeling so sad Ronshar sending huge hugs, be kind to yourself hon. Take each day as it comes x

lissie · 08/06/2007 13:34

mrs mcj, can you call the EPU unit directly, naughty i know, but insist on another scan. they cant do this to you!

MrsMcJnr · 08/06/2007 14:49

It was the EPU I was speaking to Lissie, but thanks hon

manuka · 08/06/2007 15:05

Sorry to totally but in! (just skiving, meant to be researching packaging but mumsnet pulled me in!)
Mrsmcjnr how about going to a private scan centre if NHS are so disgustingly SHITE?
I had my scans done at the Leeds screening centre cos hate hospitals!

WinkyGirl · 08/06/2007 15:20

MrsMc I agree with Manuka I think our local private hospital charges around £150.

Well, I thought AF arrived because I got the usual spotting on Wednesday but nothing further has developed yet. Am obviously clinging to the hope I might be pg and regretting getting hammered last night! God I am pathetic. I have no pg symptoms so who am I kidding? AF will no doubt turn up late.

Am very excited about Popsy's suspected pregnancy.

Hugs to Ronshar and Kensgirl sorry you both sound naffed off.

lissie · 08/06/2007 16:01

you never know. when is/was the witch due?

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