Where there’s a Yam, there’s a way

[Bubblegum89]

Thread numero four-o.

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement.

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shall not arrive one day and post BFP next day

• Thou shall not give advice to others when TTC for one month only

• Thou shall not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month

• Thou shall not be offended by strong language

• Thou shall not tell everyone to eat yams

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

• Thou shall not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if they do so.

Welcome and welcome. We’re all very nice and friendly despite being horrible bitter old cows ☺️

Well I was full of hope this cycle. But now my RHR has fallen, which is typical just before AF arrives, and I'm due on towards the end of this week. Also, my boobs have stopped hurting, and they've been killing me all weekend.

Quiet I probably should have told them all that we have been trying for a while, but I felt a bit awkward so didn't really say anything. It just annoys me when my friend who does know gives me a look every time I order a glass of wine, or don't, so I don't think I could cope with all of them giving me that look each month as a reminder that I'm still not pregnant!

P.S. chook - forgot to say sorry about AF and to admire your patient attitude on appointments :) I'll try to follow your example...fx it comes through soon

Pibbee my hycosy is on 7th. I’m not looking forward to it at all but I’m hoping they find something. It says a lot when you’re just desperate for them to find something wrong lol at least then I will know why I can’t get pregnant and what can be done instead of being stuck in this limbo. If it makes you fee any better, pre-AF spotting wouldn’t be an indicator of blocked tubes or scarring. The opposite is true for uterine scarring as it more often than not stops any bleeding at all. Wishing you lots of luck, hope you get some answers!

June thank you. I knew it would be a bfn though. At least now I know 100%!

Cd3 today and horrific AF cramps and heavy bleeding. I have my doctors appointment tomorrow and blood test slot booked in (the Dr hasn't even agreed to give me any yet but blood test slots around here are like gold dust!)

That sounds frustrating @Chooklass but hope the diagnosis makes the next stages a bit smoother for you.
Got my referral to the breast clinic on Wednesday which is really quick (I love the NHS). Had a couple of cysts before so not feeling too nervous (although it is uncomfortable). Managed to stay out of bed until a decent time yesterday, had some nice food watched a film and tried not to think about too much!

And now it looks as though AF has arrived early! Not sure how I feel about that! If I now have a shorter cycle then that's quite good, but it also means I've only had a short luteal phase (of a week!!) Unless I ovulated a few days earlier than I thought I did and all my symptoms were wrong! Oh I have no idea anymore. All I know is that I'm not pregnant (again).

Just catching up from the weekend, sorry to hear so many fellow yammers struggling

CD9 here, going to try a 4hr hold and do an opk when I get in from work. Expecting to ovulate between CD13-15.

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the last dtd on SMEP?

I think it's literally a why not/last chance/lets be doubley sure DTD! 😂 @RhiBee29

Should I be pissed off that my mum never asks me how things are going? She knows we are ttc and struggling and that we’re with a fertility clinic etc. My sister is hugely pregnant and my mum is forever tagging her in stuff on fb about babies and dads that gag changing nappies and all that. She told me not long ago that I need to stop complaining about ttc as it makes them all feel bad and is overshadowing my sister’s “time”. So since then, I haven’t mentioned anything to them but she never asks anyway. She’s my mum and you’d think out of everyone, she would care. My OH’s mum asks how things are going all the time and she heard that I’d had a bit of a wobble last week and text me to say to give her a call etc if I ever want to have a chat and she knows when my tests are and all that, because she is genuinely interested in how things are going for us. It’s nice that she cares but I feel a bit resentful towards my mum for not seeming to care at all. It’s not a case of she thinks I don’t want to talk about it because she has read my blog and knows I am happy to talk about it but even if wasn’t too keen, surely just asking how we are now and again wouldn’t go amiss? I’m having a really hard time at the minute and not once does she asks how my appointments have gone or when my tests are or anything. Am I just being petty?

I'm knackered by that point @LovePinaColada and things are ahem drying up shall we say.

@Bubblegum89 is it a case that your Mum is burying her head in the sand or thinking because you already have a child there's not really an issue? Lots of people don't know about or understand secondary infertility which is so frustrating!

Rhibee no I don’t think so. She knows how much I want a child with my OH (DD isn’t his) and I purposely didn’t talk to her about it as I didn’t want to overshadow my sister but I write a blog about it and my mum saw it and instead of reading how upset I was feeling, she told me to stop writing about it because it was making them all look bad and it was unfair of me to talk about it when my sister is pregnant. I think that a pregnant daughter is just more interesting than one that can’t get pregnant. There’s no excitement or anything to gain from a non-pregnant child especially when you have one that’s ready to pop and give you a shiny new grandchild

Bubble you’re definitely not being petty. It’s difficult enough TTC without being made to feel as though you shouldn’t feel sad about it because it’s getting in the way of your sisters “big moment”. I think my mum would be the same (my sister is currently pregnant) but she doesn’t know we’re TTC.

@Bubblegum89 Definitely not petty - it's not like you're refusing to be happy for your sister. Just that you have your own emotional stuff that's independent.Two separate things. We may be all bitter and frustrated at ourselves but we haven't lost all humanity

@QuietTime Thanks for asking x Day frickin 61!!! Started Agnus Castus a week or so ago.... still no AF but now I'm tired and nauseous. Brilliant. 😒

Just been looking through my various test results in advance of my appointment on Wednesday morning and am now wondering if my TSH (thyroid hormone) levels are a bit too high. According to a test I had back in July the level was 2.3, which is very much in the normal range, but I have read stuff online which suggests that for ttc, the level should be between 1 and 2. I only picked up a copy of that result last Friday; when I had the actual test I just relied on the GP saying the results were normal and no action required. Great. Why do I feel like I have to second-guess literally everything?!

In terms of progesterone results, mine was 18. Everyone on here seems to say over 30 is required for ovulation, and I specifically queried this with my GP who says it varies from place to place and 18 is not a concern. I’ve always been a bit unconvinced about that tbh.

I’ll actually be pretty pissed off if my GP (two different ones at the same surgery) are wrong on any of this, as if so, I’ll have wasted months thanks to them, despite thinking it’s an issue myself.

Just been looking through my various test results in advance of my appointment on Wednesday morning and am now wondering if my TSH (thyroid hormone) levels are a bit too high. According to a test I had back in July the level was 2.3, which is very much in the normal range, but I have read stuff online which suggests that for ttc, the level should be between 1 and 2. I only picked up a copy of that result last Friday; when I had the actual test I just relied on the GP saying the results were normal and no action required. Great. Why do I feel like I have to second-guess literally everything?!

In terms of progesterone results, mine was 18. Everyone on here seems to say over 30 is required for ovulation, and I specifically queried this with my GP who says it varies from place to place and 18 is not a concern. I’ve always been a bit unconvinced about that tbh.

I’ll actually be pretty pissed off if my GP (two different ones at the same surgery) are wrong on any of this, as if so, I’ll have wasted months thanks to them, despite thinking it’s an issue myself.

It's a good thing it's St Peter at the pearly gates and not a GP receptionist - otherwise no one would get into heaven! (Obv with total respect, I'd hate to do their job 🤪)

Oh crap that posted twice. Sorry

@Pibbee Can you check it against anything like NICE guidelines? No arguing with them.

@Wonky I didn’t think of that. Where are they?

@Bubblegum89. You are a nicer person than me. They should be supporting you!

My sister-in-law came round with a christening invitation and she's booked the christening for what would have been my baby's due date!! I was...actually I am mortified.

My Mum is useless with my ttc stuff. She's quite patronising about the whole thing, saying I need to do something new for myself My mother-in-law is very religious, which I don't have a problem with but she will just day "God has a plan". It doesn't exactly help!