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40+ ttc: 2018 full of bfp's!

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Orchid222 · 07/01/2018 22:03

Ladies, the old thread has now closed so I created a new one but can't post the link, hopefully you'll find it and we can continue.

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Orchid222 · 10/01/2018 08:00

Mimosa- when do your opks turn positive? Mine do around cd14-17 so I'd be surprised if I ovulate long before then but just in case we're going to start dtd at the very beginning of cd7 which is what we did last cycle as well. I'm hoping lots of water, greipruit juice and EPO will give me something this month so I'm not so clueless but purchasing a good thermometer today to start temping.

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JoJoyorker · 10/01/2018 09:40

Does anyone know about vitamin a when TTC? just noticed my EPO with cod liver oil has vitamin a and d in it. It's one I always used to take and was doing when conceived with DC. I just noticed on pack says speak to doctor if TTC so Googled and seems to say vitamin a can be bad. I can't find in what amount though. I wonder if I should just buy EPO on its own. This is the pack...

40+ ttc: 2018 full of bfp's!
Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 09:58

Yes I think it’s best to avoid vit a when ttc.

Mimosa - thanks re Shatavari.

I stop epo at ov but take 2 x ubiquinol throughout.

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 11:53

Ok Mooncup has been ordered so I can see how heavy period is. It certainly was pretty short this month - to be expected with a 24-day cycle I guess. Come on hormones!

10% off Mooncup at the mo btw.

Cleozeta · 10/01/2018 12:34

Alibaba how short was your period? Mine has changed in the last few months, its now really heavy for 2 days then suddenly stops, then super light for another 4 days or so (almost more like spotting).
I can't actually remember exactly how my periods were when normal, but I'm sure they got lighter slowly rather than abruptly and I'm sure they were heavier longer, although not as heavy as my first 2 days are now - it's like it all comes out in less time. Weird.

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 12:53

Mine are exactly the same. It’s heavy for first 36-48 hours then becomes light/spotting from then. Mine have always been fairly like that but probably lighter and shorter now. Exactly as you describe.

coastalchick · 10/01/2018 13:18

Help!

I'm 39 and (almost) 4 months old. Got pregnant first go in July but sadly ended in a missed miscarriage at 10 weeks end August and baby had died just after 6. Have had 5 cycles since then but only tried on 4 and my latest AF seems to have arrived today.

I know that 4 cycles at my age is not that bad (i.e. It's not unusual not to be pregnant yet) but it is getting me/us so so down. None of my friends understand. Either they've not had MC's or those that have have gone on to have a healthy baby. One friend took 7 months to conceive then MC then another 7 months to conceive her now baby. But she was 26 at the time so just doesn't get the age thing.

I feel really very alone and like it won't happen. Our life is on hold. We got engaged 14 July and by mon 17th had set a date of 1 Dec 2017. Then on 18th we found out we were pregnant so cancelled! Since then we've not re-set a date because we wanted to see how trying went but we are now both just so fed up of waiting and constant disappointment that we are going to get married in June or may this year (just waiting for dates from venue, registrar etc).

Had 21 day progesterone results back today which were 53 and have been referred to specialist. I'm quite lucky in that regard in that (and not saying this is right, it's just the way it is where I live) that our GP practice knows I'm an ex clinical negligence lawyer (it apparently flashes up on their screen when they access my records) so they have referred me to consultant who I'm seeing Monday.

I just keep thinking it's not going to happen and tbh I just don't want to try anymore. OH said I was being a quitter this morning when I said this but I'm not - this is not one of those things you can work hard at and definitely get results.

I'm taking ubiquinol (have been for 2 months), were both taking conception vitamins and take baby aspirin. I'm starting a fitness plan as want to lose weight for wedding (I'm 5'4" and 11st 4 having lost 3lbs last week) but not sure that is stopping conception as was at least that when conceived last time.

Sorry for rant/brain dump. Any words of wisdom/suggestions much appreciated.

It's just shit that the time it has taken me to meet an amazing guy (and someone who is well worthy of being a father and in whom o have the utmost faith in all areas of life), my eggs are bad

JoJoyorker · 10/01/2018 13:32

Mine are the same very heavy for a day maybe two and then they kind of disappear. They are a lot heavier since they came back after finishing breastfeeding. I thought it was that but maybe it's age. How many days should they last? So if they are not very long that can indicate problems? I'm not aware of this at all.

Karigan1 · 10/01/2018 14:04

Hey Coastal Chick, I’m only just starting so wouldn’t dream to claim much knowledge but just wanted to show some support. Everyone says it can just take time and maybe if you are stressing that’s not helping? Sorry to hear about your loss and hope it happens for you soon.

minime2017 · 10/01/2018 14:06

Well ladies af has knocked on my door in spectacular fashion-tummy upset and sickness, but I have flu l symptoms which may be why it feels so extreme. Briefly thought I might get a bfp as previous cycles have been 25 and this one was 26 days...but Ovia has it spot on.
Onto another month. From my makeshift sick bed on the sofa I've ordered the shatavaro and some magnesium. Having read that thread and some more I think I may have mag deficiency (headaches, skin complaints, sleep issues) let's see how that goes. Isn't it amazing that as soon as the initial annoyance of af kicking in passes you get an air of hope.

JoJoyorker · 10/01/2018 14:10

Hope you are ok minime. I know exactly what you mean it's kind of a relief to know after the TWW and then you feel full of hope for next month.

JoJoyorker · 10/01/2018 14:14

Coastal chick sorry about your miscarriage. I've only recently started trying new things so I don't have a lot of knowledge. I have had day 21 tests though and I thought 51 was a reasonable score?

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 14:33

Welcome Coastal. When I get AF I feel so down but it does get easier throughout the cycle. What I wish I’d done at 40 was either head straight to IVF or just relax for a few cycles and switch off.

Can you get IVF on NHS? But yes get all tests done, I’m sure everything is fine.

Consultant got back to me today and said they’ve referred over 50 patients for 3 IUI cycles and 7 were successful. So less than 14% chance but over 3 cycles. But that it does offer increased chances than trying naturally and IVF doesn’t offer a much higher rate.

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 14:37

Jojo - I think about 30ml flow is fine. So hopefully we get that on the first couple of days.

Minime - boo! Onwards and upwards!

Karigan1 · 10/01/2018 14:59

Minime - sorry to hear that and get better soon! I found the stuff about magnesium interesting and have started taking a supplement (I liked the Epson baths idea but doubt I have time to do that regularly). It makes sense! Good luck

coastalchick · 10/01/2018 15:55

Oh yes, sorry - 53 is good apparently - had been referred to specialist before the test, having wailed at my GP. The 21 day test I got done in advance of seeing specialist (see him mon) so he doesn't just send me off for that then it takes another 4 months to see him again (been waiting 4 months)

Cleozeta · 10/01/2018 18:46

Sorry AF got you minime. And with illness too, just to rub salt in the wound - it's brutal like that. Hope you get better soon. And ready for the next cycle. Let's be positive, one of us lot has to get a bfp soon!
Coastalchick - don't give up hope, you do still have time on your hands - and options

coastalchick · 10/01/2018 18:59

@cleozeta - thank you - it doesn't feel like it at times!!

Like all of us, I just want a baby now

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 20:03

Cleo - are you on cd5 like me? What did you decide about soy?

Has AF finished and ewcm started?

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 20:09

Mimosa - I’ve read dosage of Shatavari is 1000-2000mg/day. I might up my dose.

Cleozeta · 10/01/2018 20:22

Alibaba - yes cd5 for me too. Still got final remains of AF at the mo, not expecting any signs of ov until at least cd14 earliest. I say that now but who knows what trick my body will play next!!
No soy for me this month, decided to stick with plan A and have a cycle without. Will be interesting to see what happens. How about you?

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 20:39

Ah ok, you’re not an early ov-er like me then. Yes I too have spotting. I’m on Shatavari this month instead of soy.

Cleozeta · 10/01/2018 20:44

I'm normally a late ov-er, often around cd21 or so. Although that is since taking soy, so it could be that making it late. I have no expectations for this soy-less cycle. Anything could happen.

Will be intetested to hear how it goes with the shatavari

Alibaba2 · 10/01/2018 21:24

OH is away Fri-Sun so I’m hoping that ov doesn’t come early!

littlemimosa · 10/01/2018 21:42

Gosh loads to catch up on.
Ali it’s me who ovulates stupid early like you! I’m cd 8-9 and starting to get progesterone symptoms already asaaah. Seems two minutes ago that my boobs were sore... Do you know the dosage of the Pukka Shatavari btw?
Orchid - this cycle my positive opk was CD7! It can’t be normal??

Welcome coastal and so very sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Reading your post though I have to say, you need to calm down. I mean that in the kindest possible way! I honestly do. I understand how you feel (been ttc #3 for too too long, all I want in life is a last chance to hold another baby, just one last good egg!) but stressing will do nothing for you. You’re only 39 and you’ve got time on your side. You know you can get pregnant and the odds are massively in your favour. Why don’t you try something calming and balancing like reflexology or acupuncture. Calming and also good for conception Smile