Yams, fertile feckers and what not to say.

[LimpLettice]

Part the third:

Welcome all anti-fertile fuckers! This is our clique for those trying longer than 6 cycles and are pretty fed up.

Here are our Fucked Off TTC Commandments

• Thou shall not arrive one day and post BFP next day
• Thou shall not give advice to other when TTC for one month only
• Thou shall not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways
• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month
• Thou shall not be offended by strong language
• Thou shall not tell everyone to eat yams
• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

Our spreadsheet which includes what supplements (and potatoes) we are trying in our journey to motherhood.

"Glad" I'm not the only newbie about. (not at all glad, in fact. I wish none of us were here).

Went to the dentist today, and he wanted to do an x-ray. Asked if there was any chance I was pregnant. HA! Yeah right... But I had to say yes, because I suppose technically there is a chance, even though it's painfully tiny. I was like "yeah but no but yeah...but really no"... Awkward.

Anyway, I'm now lying in bed wondering whether that actually is my cervix I can feel tightening inside me, and whether that means I really am pregnant...honestly I create the most ridiculous "symptoms" during the tww. Last month I got a weird pulse in my tummy and was like "that's totally probably the start of blood flowing through the placenta".

I need more help than a fertility clinic can offer.

lost am properly chuckling as DH sleeps at your description of pregnancy possibility - I know exactly the feeling...technically yes, but almost certainly no...

Hello newbies! Sorry you're here but welcome xx

Thanks Si1ver and QuietTime.

Oh and I fucking hate yams, btw, they're Ming

Hi everyone, mind if I join in too? I've been loving the anti-yam chat .
I'm 40 yrs old and TTC for just under 2 years now and it has sent me a bit over the edge and back again!
My tests so far have been fine - day 21 progesterone tested earlier this year was good - it was actually day 23 or 24 progesterone by the time I could get an appointment, so I was relieved that it was still okay. My dp's semen analysis (which he was not in a rush to make an appointment for!!) was not so good. The count and motility were both low but morphology fine. He has had a second one since then to check it again and we don't know the specifics yet but he has been asked to go back to GP so we assume it's not good again. He left his job a few months ago as he hated it, thinking he would get another one relatively quickly (not yet!) and has just started working night shift in a not great job to help pay the bills - he doesn't cope well with lack of sleep and 12 hour shifts (I doubt I would either!) and that and the 'drudge' that TTC sometimes feels like it is becoming, isn't helping our efforts. It just feels so hopeless at the moment. I too get so annoyed reading the threads where people go on about 'picking' a month to get pregnant in! Most of friends have kids and a close family member is just about to have her second. I don't find that too difficult as they are lovely people and try hard to be sensitive but also recently found out that an ex of mine (who strung me along for almost two years and then cheated on me) is about to have a baby with his relatively new partner and that wasn't pleasant! Feels so unfair, but then this whole thing is, isn't it!!

I have been seeing an acupuncturist who specialises in fertility for six months and she has been brilliant in sorting my cycles out. I noticed last year that I had started to ovulate quite early in my cycle (around CD 10-11 despite a cycle of around 27 days) and was worried about it so thought I would try it. It really has helped and pushed ovulation back by a few days and I'm convinced it has helped my mood too. Have also cut out caffeine and we're both taking fertility supplements (when I remember).

Despite my GP telling me initially that I had passed the age cut off to be referred for IVF, I researched it myself and found out that that had changed, so had another GP appointment a few weeks ago and have now been referred directly to the local Assisted Conception Unit for IVF as a result of Male Factor Infertility - I've been told that the waiting list is around 8 months at the moment, so not too bad although feels like an age at the moment. I'm in Scotland too Flora. I didn't realise that they were longer in Edinburgh, although my acupuncturist told me that they might be lengthening again all over Scotland due to the changed rules about the number of attempts couples can have via the NHS.
I'm happy to have been referred but daunted by it too - the success rates seem so relatively low. I also have booked to attend an open day at a private IVF clinic near me which has a very good reputation, although we would really struggle to afford it. I figure it's worth a visit anyway.

Sorry for the epic....I have difficulty summarising I also don't have many people to talk to this about - and certainly no-one who has gone through the same kind of thing - so it feels great to have found this thread.

Welcome newbies!

8dpo, sore boobs have gone, all hope is lost, I’m am going to be a nightmare at work today feeling proper pissed off, really thought this was it as boobs stayed sore from ovulation. Need to suppress urge for a chocolate binge as on weight watchers. Might smash a few yams down my neck instead, how many smart points are in a yam?

Not that I know of @LookingAtTheStars89 but I’ve had no reason to be tested for it before. Obviously this medication will result in instant pregnancy and I’ll be fucking off to the pregnancy boards to be smug about eating satsumas or some shit.

@RhiBee29 I’m not sure on WW but on Slimming world they’re free food. Not that I checked. Oh no. Not me 😳

Hi, is there room for one more? I'm 35, been TTC for 11 months now.

And in that time 4 women I know have had babies so feeling the pangs on a regular basis.

One more month and then I should be able to go to the doctors for tests

I drank A LOT of wine last night. I suspect work today is going to be tedious.

I do the yes, but no, but technically thing when giving blood.

"Could you be pregnant?"
"Well theoretically anything is possible, but after 18 months trying it seems unlikely, so I'm willing to accept the limited risk of giving blood"
"We going to need you to speak to a manager"

Today is going to be fucking awesome, firstly I can feel AF is about to make an early appearance. Secondly I’m a dog walker - have you seen the bloody weather?! Just shoot me now 😩

Welcome newbies!

I couldn't sleep last night, just too fucking sad. But I also spent a good portion of time trying to figure out when my cousin got preggers again after her mc, to give me some possible idea as to how long it might take, and figured it was about 5 weeks, so then I spent another million hours thinking about when 5 weeks is from my mc and what the due date of baby would be then.

FFS, brain, shut the fuck up!

Passme It's quite mild where I am

Ugh can we swap?! It’s set to chuck it down all day here and there are multiple flood alerts in place!

Hope you're not too tired Sooz - know what those nights are like and its just exhausting to have your brain turning over all the time.

Bloomingheather - yeah I know that the lists here are long and its not surprising that its attributable to the fact that the NHS offers 3 cycles - which is obviously amazing and we are very lucky but the waiting lists show that the resources are obviously not really there.

Without trying to sound like a complete knob, our appointment tomorrow is for private IVF as we can afford it and my head is just so fucked that I think we might need to just go for it. I'm still so undecided and DH is saying that I need to make a decision but I want to do it for the right reasons. I've started spotting today so AF will be here tomorrow - is this the right time to make such a decision? Should I not do it during FW when I'm an optimist asshat rather than a negative norma? Hell knows, just wish someone would tell me what to do!

Hope you don't get too soaked pass - it is dry here currently but pretty sure that is because there is simply no more water in the sky as its just chucked it all week! it'll probably snow now

Well done for giving blood Silver - I used to go all the time but then got a bit fainty so they told me to "come back once you've ha a baby" - as if I'd be really hard after that... excellent.

S1lver did they allow you to give blood? They turned me away last time I went to donate as I was TTC (had been for 1 year at that point). It was one of the little things that made me feel terribly upset - not doing a great job at getting pregnant & then I couldn't do one of the good deeds that makes me feel good about myself...

@ronswansonstache yes they're happy for me to give blood. I'm a universal donor so they're pretty keen on getting my blood, and I had a good chat with the practice manager about how I wasn't prepared to stop living my life because I couldn't get pregnant. I try and schedule my appointments post period pre ov and she seems happy that that I fully understand the risks. It's not for everyone, bit it's important to me.

@Si1ver thanks- that's good to know. Maybe I just need to be more insistent with them! I'm also O- so have always given when I am able to, I think I was a bit taken back about them turning me away so didn't really challenge it & just wanted to get out of there!

This is going to sound so dumb but why can’t you give blood if you’re ttc?

Hugs, Sooz. I can totally relate and the thoughts can get quite intrusive.

I didn’t know you couldn’t give blood while ttc either!

I’ve had a bit of spotting at 2dpo. Not much but a couple of fresh red streaks. Not something I normally see until about 11dpo, does anyone know if ovulation can cause spotting?

@Bubblegum89 mainly it can make you and the recipient feel shit if you're pregnant.

Interesting about the blood donation.They don't want mine anyway because DH was raped, so even though we have both had negative HIV tests etc. they are not interested which seems pretty poor to me.

AF still not arrived cd77 whats going on with my body, still nauseous and wet 'down there' had some cramping last night and was sure AF would arrive by now, but not yet. Is she doesn't show up by the weekend I might POAS again but I'm not hopeful now.

DH quit smoking a couple of months ago and I will finish the meds I blame for messing with my cycles next week so fingers crossed for the next cycle whenever that may decide to show up! Anyone else had their cycles messed up by Mirtazapine and know how long it takes for them to settle down again? My GP says its nothing to do with the meds even though I was regular until I started on them and the leaflet in the box said to contact your Dr immediately if your cycles were affected. I've now read somewhere they can stop you ovulating which I kind of guessed from whats been going on. I'm scared now incase they have done any perminant damage although I did really need them from a mental health perspective at the time.

@LimpLettice I often spot during ovulation, last couple of months I've actually had small bleeds too - bit weird but I think it's pretty common x

Ladies help me out here .... ovulation day after period ....? Just come off AF but thought I would test today...and I had a positive result... is this normal?

Justone not typically normal, but if you google it, it does happen! I found this, basically saying that the egg may not be mature enough to be released so your body could sure again and O later on in your cycle,

@pink that’s a long cycle, when did you last POAS? Don’t blame yourself for a side effect, pretty sure your GP is wrong here going from what a friend told me- but I’m not 100% sure she was on Mirtzapine.