Thou shall not tell everyone to eat Yams

[juneybean]

Welcome all anti-fertile fuckers! This is our clique for those trying longer than 6 cycles and are pretty fed up.

Here are our Fucked Off TTC Commandments

• Thou shall not arrive one day and post BFP next day
• Thou shall not give advice to other when TTC for one month only
• Thou shall not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways
• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month
• Thou shall not be offended by strong language
• Thou shall not tell everyone to eat yams
• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

Our spreadsheet which includes what supplements (and potatoes) we are trying in our journey to motherhood.

Ffs I’m walking to work and no lie, there was a clearblue digi lying in the middle of the road with “pregnant” on the screen. Made worse by the fact that I am feeling horrendously dizzy and sick today, exactly the way I was both times I was pregnant but I know this time I’m not so the feeling crap isn’t even worth it.

Oh well, at least it’s wednesday

Oh Bubblegum, that’s awful! who leaves one lying on the sodding floor?!?

Another influx of pregnancy announcements this morning. DH commented on how my boobs are looking bigger in a trying to be positive kind of way but it’s undoubtedly much more to do with the half a stone I’ve put on since we got married 3 months ago now there isn’t a dress to fit into... so not only am I Barron, but I’m also getting fat.

Hi all, can I join for a rant please?

We've been TTC#2 for 13 cycles now with only a chemical pregnancy to show for it and I'm thoroughly fed up! I've got my bastard period and want to curl up in bed eating wontons. I had bloods and an internal done last month - completely normal apparently (apart from the not getting pregnant part obviously!)

And to top it off my husbands being completely fucking reasonable about it all, all that "it'll happen if it's supposed to happen" bollocks - arrggghhhhh!!!!!

And then it's the comments (from otherwise lovely people) at work, "oh you should have another" "two's great fun" - fuck off you fecund twats!

I feel better for that!

Hi there
Hoping to Join if thats ok? Love thread title and the rules did make me laugh.

Stats are
31 (32 in a couple of months)
Ttc #1
Cycle 21ish (lost count)

Actually been trying since oct 2014. had to take a 3 month break after a year to go on hormone contraception due to endometriosis and having some horrendous periods
1 bfp ended in early mc 2014
3 month break then started ttc again in oct 2014. A break then restarted feb last year. So ttc for 3 years overall.

Now have recently been refferd for fertility treatment and waiting for first appointment for ivf refferal.

Look forward to being part of thread . will try and read back over thread to get up to speed.

Wishing everyone well xxx

Welcome tolerance and hopefullywaiting :) hope you’re both not here for long! Sorry to hear about your losses

tolerance I’m the same as you. Ttc #2 and in cycle 12 (soon to be 13) although I’ve had no pregnancies in that time.

Hello new yammers! Fuck off fecunders might be my new catchphrase. Yes I swear too much.

DD with her best friend and period finally tailing off enough to do some wine. So a little red in my glass.

Dp has been googling and suggested smep this month, or balp as he calls it (Bone A Lot Plan), which is fine by me as long as he’s not away for work. Any opinions?

I keep getting requests to view the spreadsheet...anyone clicking the link should be able to view and add themselves :)

Limp - living the bone a lot plan!

Only warning I have - how’s your dp’s stamina?

Mine starts to complain after 3 days in a row

Bone-A-Lot Plan limp 😭 amazing!

Can anyone help me. I’m losing my mind. I have a 28 day cycle. Usually. Couple cycles ago, I didn’t ovulate until day 20 which was very unusual for me. Last cycle, I got my surge cd10, ov’d cd11 (maybe 12) I’m on cd12 now and I’m getting only a ghost of a line on my opk’s. With my 28 day cycle I usually have a surge by now or at least an almost positive as I ov on cd14. I’m confused as to why my cycles are suddenly a bit all over the place. I am ovulating, blood tests confirmed it. I’m getting really pissed off now. 10 months of ttc and ov’ing on cd14 then all of a sudden, poof, all hell has broken loose

He’s younger than me and stupid enough to think ttc is FUN.

Nothing helpful, Bubblegum. Any new supplements? B6 has bought mine forward a little.

Limp we tried the Bone a Lot plan this month! Every other day from the end of AF ( bar an extra one chucked in) then O day and the next three days! To be honest, we BD quite a lot anyway but it wasn’t too bad stamina wise, just the last one hence why we haven’t now for 3 days

Nope limp not doing anything I haven’t done every other month. It’s so frustrating, OH works nights and I work in the day so planning sex is difficult as it is.

Is the SMEP the one where you have sex two days then miss a day then dtd on ov day and the day after or something like that?

Hi Bubblegum
Thanks for the welcome and thankyou.
I took the loss quite hard and found the first year after it , was harder with each passing month as kind of kept kicking myself (irrational i know) that it didnt stick and felt it was a fluke and i wouldnt get pregnant again. So felt like i had missed my chance.

Now feel more accepting of mc and as much as im still disappointed each cycle and sad about not conceiving i feel a bit more at peace with it. dont know if its all just self preservation though. Think theres only so many cycles of disappointment and despair you can take .

Hope your not on here for long either and anyone else on here, haven't learnt everyones names yet .

Hi LimpLettuce
Love the user name and thanks for the welcome xx

I tried Smep plan in the first 3 months of trying (way back in early 2014). Was also using opks and a bit obsessive about it early on (. Then on the 3rd cycle i stopped using any lubricant and thats when i fell pregnant that same cycle which didnt stick sadly.

Had a few months off. When i went back to ttc didnt start using Smep or opks for the first 6 months tried to have more a relaxed "lets see what happens" approach then smep until break in oct 2015 for 3 months.

As it hadn't worked the last time round ttc with the relaxed approach tried Smep as soon as started ttc then later opks. Havent used Smep or opk last 6 months to year just tried to keep it regular. No luck.

So dont know if it was the Smep that worked for me in the beginning or it was a contributing factor to other factors that month iyswim.

Hope that kind of makes sense and helpful in a way. And in no way do i mean to raise hopes. Think its a very individual thing .

Xxx
Wow that was long for a 2nd post sorry !

Maybe it’s just an odd month or two Bubblegum. Plan for us is every other day from cd8, 3 on the trot when +ve opk, skip a day, final shag for luck.

BALP usually escapes us due to DP not being around much in the week, so it’s a big commute for him for a couple of weeks but otherwise not a chore ha. I imagine we’ll skip first couple of days for convenience, but manage ok 👌

I’ve been really down about it this week. Proposal was beyond amazing, but I’m so conscious of being 8 years older and, well, barren. And WHY do pregnant people start caressing their bump whenever I’m near?

limp happens to me too. Was in Aldi yesterday and the girl in front of me (who I know from school and was a nasty bitch who bullies everyone) was very pregnant and the second I stood behind her, she started running her stomach. Ugh.

Currently on holiday, it’s a toddler friendly break and I swear every other woman here either has a toddler and small baby or is pregnant. Fuck off with your double buggy!!!

Hahahahahaha Rhi. Currently duffed colleague was chatting yesterday about the beauty of the double buggy she’s bought, so I rationally hid under the desk til pix were gone. I’m totally a shit friend but eughhhhh.

Hey there new folk!! you'll love it here!
Hopefullywaiting i totally get what you mean about self preservation after miscarriage. Ive written about this before elsewhere about how i tend not to get emotional about it anymore. I wonder whether its because I'm simply cold hearted lol which i know isn't true really but that I'm sure I've come to terms with it now but on the other hand it could be that I've placed myself in some sort of protective bubble emotionally because
A) i work in a baby department and I'm surrounded by pregnant ladies all bloody day and I've kind of HAD to get own with it.
B) Im concentrating very hard on falling pregnant again.

Anyway, i went for 21 day test this morning (24 in my case) and all the other hormonal tests. Hopefully all will be well on that front. Im 8DPO and not symptom spotting today! i will get through this. If I'm not pregnant I'm going to take some ibuprofen for the headaches ive been getting for 3 weeks as paracetamol are shit.
I wish i could partake in the BALP plan but my husband works 60-70 hours a week and is a permanent zombie. I just about manage to get it when it counts lol.

Hi Dudemeister

Thanks for the welcome .
You are most likely right its acceptance and maybe putting yourself in a protective bubble (dont blame you) that you dont get emotional about the mc.
im sure its not because your cold hearted!

That must be very tough working around pregnant women as theres no break from it , its right there. I know you said youve had to get on with it but still must be hard espically in early months after mc .

Your Oh working those shifts sounds like hard going bless you both.

I bet it will be a relief in a way once you know for sure, to be able to take something stronger than paracetamol. Lets hope the headaches dont last that much longer though!

Fc that 21 day tests and other tests all come back as you want .

Xxx

bubblegum I think ov starts playing up the moment you try to measure it. My cycle was 22-24 days for 10 cycles, the moment I started testing I had a 27 day cycle. Rrrrrrr

Today I have remembered all my "stuff" - vitamins, epo, grapefruit juice (anyone else trying this?! Thought I would seeing as I really like it anyways.), opk,...

Thanks for all the welcomes, while it's great to feel less alone, I'm sorry that we are all in the same frustrating boat!

I'm getting better at not symptom spotting, possibly losing hope a bit. I keep trying to work out if there was anything I did differently in the month I did conceive (even though it wasn't successful) and the only thing I can think of is that I gave blood that month - not sure that's a great long term sustainable plan!

Good luck with all the shagging plans, fingers crossed for everyone!

Thanks for the lovely response Hopefullywaiting Im going to crack open the codeine once AF shows up haha. Im thinking the headaches may be hormonal and I'm maybe still not right? i dunno.

Whats this i hear about grapefruit??? is this the new Yam justmeonly ????

justme thing is, I’ve been testing it from day one lol it’s really really annoying me now.

dudemeister ugh working around babies and pregnant women must be a nightmare. Fingers crossed for your results!

@Bubblegum89 Cheers! its the pregnant women thats the hardest and maybe the very new babies. It does hurt a bit I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes i find myself wandering around imagining that its me looking for nipple shields and maternity knickers. Mostly i try and separate myself from it emotionally but every now and then i have to walk away and tell myself to get a grip.
God someone must be due a BFP on here soon!!!

I'm feeling a bit pissed off today about it all. No real reason, I just have the feeling now that it's never going to happen. Everyone else always just seems to just drop their knickers and they end up pregnant. I'm trying to be all relaxed about it this cycle, but now it feels as though we're not really trying so then I get annoyed with myself for that as if I've given up! I might start temping again next month so that at least I feel like I'm still doing something.