Chart Spotters Unite!!

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Yum was in need of a new thread, and I thought the title was apt because it's not just TCOYF charts anymore... hope it's ok?? I don't want anyone to think I am taking over

Just needing something, anything, to take my mind OFF my impending doom

Thanks 3cats, AF is now here so I can draw a line under that weird cycle and hopefully start a fresh one that is a bit more normal! We?ll see! I hope the appointment goes well, let us know how you get on Sorry that you are still in pain, must be horrible.

Off to chart spot?..

Hey 3cats ? that spotting is really early this cycle isn?t it?could it be implantation? Just could it?

Nice looking chart Seaside

3cats... hope your appointment went ok, sorry to hear about your pain - are you feeling better? I hope that you had a lovely time away and rechanged the batteries!

MrsMc... I know that opinion is divided on when CD1 should be taken from. I never have spotting before AF, but if I did I wouldn't count it as CD1 - full flow makes more sense to me. How are you feeling? Positive about this next cycle?

Right... off to nosy at the charts.

Thanks Ready. I?m ok but feeling a bit low it?s no really the fact that we didn?t manage it this month but more about how I?m feeling. I?m totally exhausted and washed out and miserable about my weight and how I look. My skin looks horrible too. DH was very sweet this morning and said I was beautiful but I don?t feel it. A lot of how I feel is down to lack of exercise and over indulgence on the food front . I guess it is tiring having people to stay too. We were in a seaside town for lunch on Monday and the weather was gorgeous and I wanted to have a long walk along the beach but my grandparents aren?t very mobile so we couldn?t do that and spent hours in the car instead. Don?t get me wrong, it is lovely to have them here and I love them to bits but it is hard work and I?m too tired to concentrate on what I am meant to be doing in the office I?m glad we have the weight loss thread as I really am hoping it will help me shift some blubber, I?ve never weighed to much in my life and I?ve put on 7 pounds this year. I remember someone else saying they put on 7 pounds for every MC insult to injury!! As you know, I?m normally a positive person and I can?t really understand my attitude at the moment, hopefully it will improve and from Sunday when the olds leave, I?ll really make an effort to do lots of exercise Thanks for listening!

How are you doing anyway? Feeling ok? Positive still?

MrsMc ? Oh flower, big huge cuddle!! We all have days where we hate our appearance, so I totally understand where you are coming from! And no matter how many times our DHs tell us we look lovely, we never believe them do we!? Tut.
I think it is very hard having people to stay, of course it?s always nice to see them, but I find that I can never totally relax, and certainly don?t sleep well when we have guests. That will definitely have an effect on your energy levels ? plus you were frantically getting things sorted before they arrived, and probably haven?t had any time to relax and unwind since. I think of all the times to need some relaxation during AF, this would be the one, considering it is the first one since your miscarriage. Your body has been through so much, honey, and you need to make sure that you let it recover. Not only physically but mentally too ? I think people often underestimate how much mental exhaustion can affect a person physically.
Please don?t think of it as blubber ? think of it as spare inches, much less negative! You know me, sugar the pill Don?t put too much pressure on yourself to lose lots of weight really quickly, and certainly don?t overdo the exercising. You need to take things slowly, but surely. That way is far more effective, long term!

Thanks Ready feeling much better today with lots more energy, must have slept better. Sorry if TMI but this AF is really heavy, almost as heavy as my MC but thankfully without the pain and sadness, I guess, it was 40 days worth as opposed to the usual 28! Just think, if I wasn?t temping and didn?t know for sure that I wasn?t pg, I could have got myself all excited and then heartbroken again that I may have MC. Temping is definitely good information as far as I am concerned. I think that AF is making me feel yucky too. I agree, I probably have been doing too much.

MrsMc - I am glad you agree with me I am always right, me .
I completely agree with you, temping is a really useful tool. It certainly gives me something to focus on. If I didn't temp I think I would go mad each month with worry that I wasn't doing it at the right time!
I am starting the OPKs again this month, just to see if I can get a +. What time of day do you usually test?

Hello, just been for a chart spot

Nice looking charts Sunshinedays, Rahrah & Seaside ? fingers crossed!

Getting set to get busy City, Cedar & Ready?

3cats ? how are you hon? How was the appointment and what?s happening with your chart? Hope you are ok.

Were nearly cycle buddies Rattling

Minxi ? just how long is your holiday?! yes, we miss you!!

Over that line again today Iwillbe? Some well timed sessions in there if you are!

Ready ? good luck with the OPKs, don?t let them stress you out. I used to use them at 10am and sometimes at 6.30pm.

MrsMc - I think I updated my chart after you'd had a nosy - we've started getting busy - trying every other day with 3 on the trot if I get a positive OPK this month!! I did the OPK at 5.45 yesterday afternoon, so I will go with that for now. Is it possible to miss the hormone??

Seaside - Your chart looks great - I can see why you are tempted to test I am excited for you, petal!! Fingers crossed

Hello everyone else... Fingers crossed Right, off to carry on nosing at the charts, just looked at Seaside's so far

Meant to say yesterday MrsMc - Sorry to hear that AF is so heavy, but like you say, it was a longer cycle, so to be expected. Hang in there!!

Haven't had a proper chart spot but glad you are geting busy Ready! You are trying that sperm meets eggs plan - I would like to give that a go - will have to plan it for May cycle! Hope the OPK's co-operate - I have found success with them by doing them between 2 and 6pm and then if I get a faintish line I do 2 a day - I got my best + ever last month at midnight - so just shows it would have been easy to miss - as by the next afternoon it was back to being faint again

Sorry to hear of heavy AF MrsMc - Chinese medicine says it is good to have a heavy AF -at least 4 days of heavy red flow (tmi?) ??

Thanks for the compliments on my chart ! - but TBH my chart alwas looks pretty OK at this stage- temps stay up until dpo12 then it all goes pants, quickly But as I keep saying - it just shows that you can have a nice clear cycle and a few well-timed BD's but it still does not guarantee you a BFP

Any news 3cats? - I think you are away until the weekend but hope you are OK and the appointment got you some answers

Seaside - Yep, a good friend told me about the sperm meets egg plan (and I think someone posted a link to it on a thread somewhere!) and we tried to do it 2 cycles ago, but the eggs were not interested Fingers crossed they are more keen to play this cycle!
I know what you are saying about your chart - BUT, the last 2 didn't have as steady a line - so I am still excited for you!!
I agree with you that well timed doesn't always get you a BFP - looking over my charts, on the whole the sex has been pretty well timed, and nothing to show for it! The moon phase thing you posted really got me thinking, that we should keep going through the entire cycle if we can, just because you never know - the moon or this spontaneous ovulation theory could have something in it?

Forgot to mention before, but my LP seemed to leap from a rubbish (but consistent) 9 days to a healthy 12 days last cycle - looks like I ovulated 2 days earlier than usual, the day after DH and I went to see the film 300 - no-one knew what I was talking about at the time, but you must have seen some adverts now, scantily clad, oiled men attacking each other . May have been that or the bottle of wine we shared very quickly before retiring for what was most definately a shag.

Still possible the Vit C I started taking kicked in, but we will be trying to re-create the day a week on Sunday. Any suggestions for another film that will get both sexes going?

Good news about LP Rattling - will have a think about a film suggestion!

Ready sounds like you and DH have got it all planned out! You won?t miss the LH if you test each possible day at around the same time I don?t think, I could be wrong though!

Hi Seaside ? sperm meets eggs plan? Is that like my sperm lie in wait to ambush unsuspecting egg plan?! Have you heard the rumour that we all ovulate at 6pm? Don?t know if there is any truth in it though! Couldn?t remember that Chinese Medicine point from my book, sounds good though! Never TMI in my opinion! Fingers crossed that the temps stay up beyond 12dpo. As you say, you can have perfect chart, perfect timing, good eggs and good sperm and still only have 25% chance ? it?s a wonder human are not extinct!!

That?s great news about your LP Rattling defo seen the ads for 300 ? mucho testosterone! What?s Vit C meant to do? Don?t seem to be many TTC inducing films out at the mo do there?

Sorry I haven?t had a chance to update my chart, pretty boring right now anyway, I will do it this weekend

Hi All.

CD1 today .

Appt went ok.

I have 4 blood tests to do on Tuesday (between day 1 and 5) and have to have an x ray to check my tubes (4 month wait!).

No other explanation.

I have a terrible migraine.

Will catch up on Tuesday, once we are back to normal.

Hope you are all ok.

Oh 3cats - Sorry to hear you are on CD1. Booooo. Fingers crossed for all your tests. 4 months is a long time to wait for the x-ray! I guess they hope people will conceive naturally if they have to wait longer. Sorry to hear about your migraine.
Hope you had a lovely time away though?

Decided not to ttc this month (week)

As I have a new job that starts in a month if I get pg before I join I would miss out on SMP (1.5 months salary) and would be due at a critical date for the new role.

I have been really torn and although I am doing the sensible thing part of me thinks I should throw caution to the wind and risk the extra money and reputation in new role?

I don't want us to get out of practice and am in prime horny phase

On top of all this we are going to see the specialist next week.

What do you think I should do?

Apologies for the entirely selfish post. How is everyone else doing enjoying the sun?

City - It seems like this is causing you a lot of worry and turmoil. It's a very important decision, that is completely personal to you. Of course it is the financially sensible option, to take a break.

But it all depends on how important this new job is for you in the grand scheme of things?? What would you do if you conceived this month? (Be over the moon. Of course.)But when baby is born, will you want (be able) to do the same job? That is relevant I think?

Will it really affect your reputation if you were to fall pregnant straight away? Does that matter? I am not suggesting I know the answers, I am just throwing out questions, really. I hope I don't sound flippant.

Personally, there is no way I could stop trying, but then our situation is very different. I think that losing 1.5 months salary is not the worst thing, you could put a little extra away each month to cover it, perhaps?

Also, if you were to conceive next month, you will be heavily pregnant at that critical time in your new role... something to think about perhaps??

I have just waffled on here... probably no help at all. I hope you come to a decision that you feel happy with, though, I suspect it's not as easy as that.

When is your appointment again??

Thanks Ready.
Had a nice time away. DH was a bit poorly. He always is as soon as he takes time off!

City I am sorry you are having to make a hard decision - I think that you have to go with what you think is best and have no regrets Loads of luck with the new job.
BTW I woud def stil go to the specialist as the liklehood is that any treatment etc will have a waiting time and I am sure it would be reassuring to do any tetst they might offer anyway?

3cats - so sorry about AF and migraine - I used to get them really badly but luckily they seem to have fizzled out since I have been off the pill. Good luck for your blood tests - a 4 month wait for the x-ray is insane?? fingers crossed they get a cancellation!

3cats - Sorry your DH was poorly. My DH is full of cold (or I should say Man Flu) and I try to be sympathetic, but I never get the same treatment when I have a cold. Tut.

City - I hope that what I said hasn't upset/annoyed/offended you. A bit worried now. I was just trying to help, and fear I haven't helped at all.

MrsMc - I see you updated your chart today. I meant to ask you, or I think I might have done, I can't remember. What was the findings about the below 36° temps?? I haven't had any this cycle, but other cycles I get them pre-ov. Duchesse had said that they were a cause for concern , my book said it was in the normal range - confused. Thought you might know more? Hope you are ok? Have you got your house back?

Ready- in all the hypothyroidism stuff I've read, thee suggestion is that our body systems are supposed to work optimally at around 36.8-37.05, the underlying assumption being that our cells all operate well only within a very narrow temp range. These sources all seem to suggest that temps below 36 are abnormal, and that temps consistently below 36 are practically diagnostic of hypothyroidism (occasional temps below 36 may just be due to temporary illness).

Given this, it is maybe not very surprising that women with low body temps can have trouble getting pregnant (if their cells are not working optimally, etc) but the link between low thyroid and lowered fertility does not seem well understood yet, and it may be that the fertility book is taking those low temperatures for granted without seeking to explore their possible significance. That said, I'm sure it's perfectly possible for loads of women to get pregnant despite low temps and almost certain hypothyroid, as it does not seem to affect everyone's fertility in the same way.

sorry- that should be 36-8- 37.5

Thanks Duchesse - My pre-ov temps slipped below 36 on the odd occasion, but I wasn't poorly! I was reading on the net about temperature ranges, and there can be quite a difference between the reading that you get from an oral thermometer and what your actual inner core temperature will be. Because the probe can only go so far into your mouth! Is it possible the range you have is for core temperature?? Or does it state oral temp? And also our temps are at the lowest at rest, so a temp later in the day would most definitely be higher. Does it take that into consideration?

Apologies for the barrage of questions, only if it is possible there is a reason for me not conceiving, and my temp is a clue to it, then I ought to get it checked.

confused.