Thread 31, TTC1 | Jam and her dodgers still riding the bonking bus for that elusive BFP

[Jamon]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has well and truly worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

jam sounds like a fair amount of chukka cukka LSFX!!

jam and others who worry about mc - you would be absolutely fine, and you would cope because you would just have to. You are all strong women who have been through so much already. And anyway, the chances of it happening are low. It's probably a bit skewed on here as people post more when they're having problems, but the odds are definitely in your favour. Even after 3 mcs the chances of a success pregnancy are still around 70%, which I keep telling myself!!

jam it sounds like you've done everything you could - well done to you and your DH!

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Sorry all, dropped off the thread a bit although I've been reading along. Totally understand all the MC worries. I keep telling myself over and over that the first round of IVF is unlikely to be a success and I need to think about the fact that it might be and keep focussing on cycles 2/3/whatever.

Sorry to those who've been finding it so tough recently. You are all in my thoughts

Hi girls

On CD5 now so will be into fertile week before I know it...although I'm not sure why we are even bothering sometimes! Had a nice weekend with some girlfriends and confided in them about the impending IVF etc - one thing it did make me realise is that everyone has their own shit, even if you can't see it on the surface. Hubby saw one of his best friends who advised us to enjoy life while we could as he hates his life (with two small kids!) although that's not particularly helpful.

Jamon it feels so weird coming to the end of naturally trying. I feel a few of my smaller issues (Vit D deficiency, bacterial infection) have been sorted, so maybe I should hold out a few more months. Although if one of my ovaries isn't working and my tubes are partially blocked I know the chance is so slim.

Mouse - sounds like a positive appointment and nice to meet someone who has been in a similar situation and come out the other side - you will get there as well - and maybe you'll be that person cheering someone else's day up!

Kwick love the idea of 'kissing the joy as it flies' - I am going to try and remember this one!

Sorry you are having such hard times chlo and Sk1pper.

Sk1pper - I'm not sure if you've spoken to your GP but if you're feeling really anxious it might be worth it. I was prescribed some anti-anxiety stuff a few months ago, and the GP (not my usual one) was so lovely, it made me feel so much better. I only take the tablets if I feel really anxious now, but I think just having them makes me feel better! Like kwick I'm also taking Vit D which I think is making me feel better, although hard to tell. I've also got this book on my Amazon list - although I've heard there is quite a lot about toxins in plastic etc which I'm not sure I buy?

pyjamas exciting you're close to your next cycle - I really hope it goes well!

WingingIt - looks like we're both at around the same time trying, and waiting for IVF - I know what you mean about it not having sunk in...

Jamon love that mantra, I am going to remember that.

Jam and sk1pper completely agree about miscarriages - I'm not sure I could cope after all this and then losing a baby. I read someone say that once they knew they had got pregnant once, they knew they could again - not sure if that helps at all though.

Mouse so sorry af is here

And more good news for one of my old work friends!! Seems like everyone around me is on a roll, I'm trying to remember reflexology that the works fertility around me is a good sign of things to come... ommmm

Sorry for the epic long message above, I need to check and keep up with this more often. Had to post before i'd even read through so it probably doesn't make any sense!

On the it starts with the egg book, I mean I'm more cynical about the effect of chemicals. Maybe I'll be convinced if I read it, but I don't want to end up sending myself nuts.

Mouse meant to end with look after yourself over the next couple of days, chocolate, hot baths, chilling out - you deserve it!

Struggle - toxins in plastic is a fact unfortunately. You will find a lot of reusable water bottles are now "BPA free" for this very reason. It's impossible to cut all contact with plastic completely, it's unavoidable but I never buy bottled water/drinks anymore, I don't heat my food in plastic containers at work - I transfer to a plate then heat up. Just small things. And this isn't even for conception, just for day to day health. But unfortunately infertility rates are on the rise and although unproven, I'm convinced it's due to the plethora of preservatives, additives, industrials chemicals in our food and process methods of things like dairy and inorganic meat. I always think that you don't use a book like this as a bible but more a guide to make small, accessible changes that are easy for you to fit into your routine.

Hello! Im TTC #1, cycle 1. I'm due my period on 19th August. My period was 2 weeks late last month- I think due to stress as got married! So am unsure how accurate ovulation stuff will be.
Stats:
Age 35
Ovulation prediction date was 3rd August.
I'm unsure at the moment whether to wait until 19th to test or do a bit earlier :-)

Thanks sk1pper that's interesting. I have a BPA free bottle that I drink from - but have a pretty bad sparkling water addiction and probably drink a bottle a day. Sounds like I do need to read this book! I just sometimes feel everything is bad for you depending on what you read, you could end up leading a pretty miserable life. But I think I need to know more about this kind of thing and to be less cynical.

I also have gone bpa free since reading that book. Chucked all tupperware away and replaced with glass. Not that it's done any good. ..that was 6 months ago now.

jam acupuncturist very focused on normal FW and said keep going until ov +1
We are pretty useful at keeping going that long. Full of promise on days 7-11 but have often tailed off by 17 which isn't ideal. DH's back problems a big limited factor for us.

We are going back to EOD this cycle. Intentionally on last SA we fibbed and DH actually only abstained for 36 hrs rather than 2-5 days as I wanted to see the affect on the results. It was poorer than the previous one so we don't be doing it more frequently than eod from now on.

I agree chlo it's impossible to maintain positivity. I'm proud of myself for having positive thoughts or moments during the day and try to make a note in my grateful app. It's good to look back at them. I think with all of this you have to let yourself go through all the feels - you can't and shouldn't suppress them. Hope talking to your mum helped

Baguette you're right , there's nothing that comes close to wanting a baby. You can't really replace that desire with something else

Thanks harriet hope all going well? Are you having any scans anytime soon?

Hello kath xx

Struggle everyone really does have their own shit it's true. I confided in a friend the other week and she turned around and said she'd recently discovered her boyfriend has a coke addiction and how terrible things have been. I was pretty gobsmacked

Mouse I'm sorry about AF and hope you're okay

Welcome ladybird

That's interesting about the sperm count winging. It seems so hard to get it right - when it should be so simple!

We can't have any more sex as DH is now away until Friday. I think he's probably breathing a sigh of relief.. back into the TWW I go.

And finally my lovely kitty cat for whom I am so grateful

Aww jam your cat is so lovely! Mine is so naughty - he's brought home lots of live mice recently!

I have a scan booked for 6+5 which is in 13 days time. Trying to pretend it's not real until then as the only time I've got that far was my missed mc. The steroids mask all pregnancy symptoms so I don't have any, and even though I know that I'm still worried. Nothing to do but wait.

Awww such a cute kitty jam!! I've been giving my little pooch lots of extra cuddles the last few days.

I think AF is here. Combined with this cold, I really couldn't be feeling much worse mentally or physically. 😓

Oh skip I hope it isn't . Look after yourself today x

Soooo CD1, Cycle 11. I'm so sorry Af got you too skip, sending hugs and lots of chocolate.

I'm going to get one of those fandangled clear blue ovulation thingamabobs. Any idea which? I've just been staring at them and the only difference I can see is price and the word advanced. Going to at least pretend that a pregnancy is possible with my 8 day luteal phase. 🖕😂😎😭

On a positive. I have new jeans. They're so tight they make my bloated belly look only slightly bloated. I probably won't be comfortable today. But I have a mini hot water bottle with my name on in my work drawer! Go Wednesday!!! 😜

Sorry too Mouse - a work hot water bottle is a very, very good idea.

It's a good thing my spotting has started. I'd be going nuts over this uncharacteristic outbreak of spots I'm having. I've had 3 on my chin, 1 on my breast and now 1 on my chest. Must be because my immune system is so low.

Oh sk1p and Mouse, I'm so sorry for your both. Look after yourselves

Dammit mouse & skip - so sorry AF came.

Hope CD1 isn't too painful mouse
and really sorry it's got you at such a low ebb skipper what a fucker.

Just hanging around in TWW for me...

Harriet hope the wait to your scan isn't too anxious - can be mentally exhausting when something's preying on your mind like that xx

Keeping everything crossed for you harriet

Hope you're both okay skip mouse

Oh no Skip and Mouse, hope she doesn't come back next month.

Jamon, that sounds like a great effort and well timed. Acupuncturist told me to keep at it after positive opk just in case it was "A surge" but not "THE surge", the thing is after this long we probably know our bodies well enough to know that we have ovulated...

Glad you have support from your mum Chlo, mine also didn't have any problems (small age gaps and a surprise sibling). I haven't spoken to her about TTC.

Welcome to 🐞.

Harriet have everything crossed for your scan.

Struggle quite a few moving onto IVF soon, hoping that Pyjamas' next cycle works.

Need to get back to work, loads to do but had to check in with the jammed dodgers on my lunch break!

I seem to be incapable of keeping up these days!

So sorry to see AF got you mouse and skip - it's so shit 😞

Love your cat jam!

Nothing to report here really, just waiting for AF to start (today or tomorrow) to kick it all off again. Have been raging about our fertility consultant as well - so dismissive and unkind every time I ask a question. If this cycle fails, I'm going to request a change in consultant. I already feel shit enough, don't need her talking to me like I'm a total imbecile just because I asked whether taking baby aspirin was harmful (she also rubbished the idea of acupuncture). Grrrr - probably a lot of pre-AF rage, but my god, she's pissed me off.

In better news - I saw Emma Cannon (fertility acupuncturist) and it was great! Really lovely and I left the session so chilled out and felt like I was floating on a lovely cloud 😊 Worth it just for that in my opinion!