TTC After MC 12: Hopeful Twats and Emotional Wrecks welcome!

[BertieBotts]

Come one, come all, new and old, no-one wants to be here, but at least we're glad we've got each other :)

Hope your stay here is short.

Now, some BFPs if you please and BFNs for those who are waiting for them too!

Sorry to hear all those feeling down yesterday; hope ye're feeling better today.
Finger crossed that everything is fine for you lime.
Like the others said emvy, I think you should test to know either way.

Emvy def take a test. It doesn't always mean mc. Each pregnancy is different just remember that!

I've got my scan tomorrow at 3. Doubt they will see anything. Pain is better thank goodness. We shall see what tomorrow brings.

Emvy, take a test. And no more sex until you are out the clear. Sorry!!! (I had pains after sex when I was pregnant and dr advised to wait)

And yes, I think the last maybe 4 cycles have been shorter and my luteal phase is shortening which means my body isn't having enough time to implant. It's frustrating but I thought I was ovulating earlier. I'm not sure what I'm more pleased about, ovulating later and having a juicy egg or that I've managed to get pregnant in the past (all be in ending in a miscarriage - although I think that was because of my thyroid issue)

Oh and I also medicate my hyperthyroid. 😐

Fingers crossed for you Lime, will be thinking of you tomorrow. And thinking of you too Emvy, I hope it's good news for you.
Having another 'everything is shit' day today. Went to see the GP this morning who just told me that it's bad luck having 2 MCs and nothing they or I can do any differently, although I will get an early scan next time. Not that it will even remotely reassure me!
I'm just losing all faith in the NHS, I've had so little support both times and I feel like I'm being dismissed and left alone to get on with it. I went to A&E when I started bleeding last time (after phoning the midwife who told me to as it was a Sunday night) and the A&E doctor said 'Why are you here? They shouldn't have sent you here'. I know they're under a lot of pressure but I wish there was something I could do to make them less shit at dealing with this stuff!

Lime just popping in to say am
Thinking of you.

About to read the thread but hope everyone is ok. The shite weather is not helping.

DH got his sperm results back. High volume, high motility, high number, everything except a slightly lower than average volume of live sperm - but that might be because he waited for so long beforehand.

So that's good but although he's relieved I think he's slightly disappointed as it gives us nothing to work with!

Halloumi have you seen the MN campaign for miscarriage care? Perhaps you could contribute to that, it might help.

They are right that 2 MCs comes under the umbrella of bad luck but I know it doesn't help when you're going through it and want to know why. They could be more sympathetic at explaining this. What you could do in the meantime (if you feel it would help you personally) is look at both of your families' history of pregnancies, miscarriage, infertility, anything like PCOS, any genetic disorders etc and see if there are any patterns you can identify.

em I agree, take a test. As hard as it is, if it is, another mc should be recorded. If not, great!

rachel yes time is still on your side. I think it's best not to make decisions just as everyone else is doing so. Just take a good pre nat vitamin and see how things go. After a few months review and research and decide next steps? With ds even though I'd started tracking actually all we did was dtd every other day from a few days before a guessed fertile window for about a week. My opks never got positive. I happened to have just started temping and saw the second temp rise but none of it actually helped other than the dtd every other day!

Af is potentially due today, tomorrow or Friday. Gah.

mouse is it worth being referred to an endo regarding thyroid and ttc? Just to check all is right there? I know either way can cause mc (I'm hypo).

Completely by the by, when I was checking ubiquinol and thyroxine interactions, I found hyper states can leave you low on coq10, so that could be something to try (if ok to take with what you're on).

Emvy -test but also have you been tested/ examined for a cervical ectropian? I had the bleeding mid cycles and made my
First pg really spotty. Had it cauterised in the end.

Hand holding.

I'm not sure there's any evidence body for coQ10 and fertility... I remember the cardiac paper a while back (but I'd need to have a serious look at it because it has finding from the company that make the stuff...) and there are issues with the design...

It has a good safety profile though so probably no harm in it...

Emvy how many dpo are you? Definitely worth a test

I think I'd test too, emvy, but completely understand why you're scared

It's funny how up and down all this is, isn't it? Yesterday I was feeling so positive and thought that, two months after the most recent miscarriage, I'd really turned a corner. I've just spend half an hour full on, snotty crying on DH (we're both on holiday this week), convinced we'll never have a baby. Eurgh. I just want it all to be over.

Thank you Ekphrasis I'll look into it, thanks Anatidae for the extra info, I'm so clueless.

I'm under a specialist at the hospital, see him every 2-3 months. Last saw him last week so he knows. He's lovely and just says to keep going for now.

I take a low dose of propylthiouracil.

Lisa sending hugs. X

That would be good to know ana. I've definitely more energy though so would take for that reason.

Great mouse. That's really reassuring.

The thing is that so many pregnancies do not last anyway, or take ages to conceive, I wonder if we are actually just all very normal? (Unless otherwise medically proven). Perhaps we've been lulled into a false hope by media, the stories of others etc.

^I'm feeling pretty despondent today, I'm not sure that my comment is particularly sensitive - I just feel that my dh and I struggling and having a mc and a cp now is possibly a very usual thing. As in, this is how reproduction works. I'll try to come back feeling more positive!

ana I did some looking around; it's proven for sperm but only in female mice egg wise.

Incidentally, I found more info pointing towards folate being helpful for getting eggs and sperm to get their DNA a bit straighter pre conception at the same time.

I don't think that was insensitive ekphrasis, could very well be common there's just no public discussion about it so we never know until it happens to us. Doesn't mean it's any less painful.

I don't think it's insensitive. It depends what you mean by 'normal', though. One in a hundred women have three miscarriages in a row - that's not 'normal', but nor is it vanishingly rare. Most people of my age aren't still trying to have a successful pregnancy after a year, but nor is it some super unusual burden that only I have to bear! Most people are luckier reproductively than me, but plenty of people are far less so (well, if we assume my next one is successful - if we're being gloomy we don't know yet just how unlucky I'll turn out to be!)

My chart is shocking! I'm not sure I've ovulated yet at all.

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ea3be

Hugs to you and Lisa too!

I can't work it out Bertie. Have you done any opks?

It is a bit tricky to work out Bertie - but you have been keeping your dtd bases covered! When do you normally ov?

Thanks for the kind messages, and hugs back to you mouse and thought - feeling a bit better now, but still a bit sad - going for a soak in the hotel bath! I just feel like I keep ruining nice things, like this trip away. I guess there will be good and bad days, and the balance between them has been getting better and better. Even just a month ago I was in a much worse place.

I missed your post lisa - I've swung in a similar way, I hate it! Blaming pmt. also on a fabulous holiday which I'm not making the most of today. Feel rubbish!

Yes, I'm probably also a bit hormonal because I would guess AF will come on Sunday (which isn't sad - we aren't trying at the moment because of testing). I'm sorry you feel rubbish too. DH had a bit of a cry today too which - awful as it sounds - made me feel a bit better. I know it does affect him too but he's so much better at hiding it that I feel alone a lot.

Ps. It is also absolutely chucking it down here, which isn't helping my mood - had been envisaging lots of nice long walks on this holiday!