Thread 29 | The one with the BFPs (please)

[Londonjam]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

Also re mooncup, mine often goes up/slightly tilts to one side. The only problem it seems to cause for me is a bit of leakage, so I wear a panty liner. But yes I often have to faff about trying to get hold of it, slash push it out with my Superwoman pelvic floor muscles!

That does seem incredibly early to ov flash - how long are your cycles?

Well my cycles have been all over the place the past year, but the last couple of cycles they seemed to have settled at 26-30 days, OVing on cd13-15. I still seem to have ewcm/watery CM (sorry TMI) so I am going to keep HS just in case. But the sore boobs for me are usually classic sign I've OVd.

Sorry flora it's just awful. I hope you're alright xx

Flash does that definitely mean you have ovulated? You have had sex twice so all is lost, if you have. Have you done any OPKs?

I had an evening out with some friends which was a lovely distraction until one 'friend' who knows what we are going through - kept insisting on calling her husband "dad" in front of us, and then ended the evening by turning to him and saying YES when we get home we can put the lights on and actually TALK (their baby is staying at her mums). I just felt like she was trying to rub it in and wanted to say - do you know what DH and I would give to be going home to our own child every night???

Ugh it's brought me right back down again.

Oh jam so sorry. The lack of awareness of some people is breathtaking. But one day you WILL be going home to your child.

I found an old opk in the cupboard and it was almost positive. So I'm hoping if I've surged it was yesterday, and so this morning was a great time to HS and am OVing as we speak. I know I was being silly, I just suddenly felt another month slipping by and I've been feeling really down about things lately.

Flash that sounds like perfect timing, fx

I don't know whether to take clomid again tonight. I have felt so so so so low today. I never feel this bad on day 3. I've been bawling my eyes out. I'm scared it's the clomid even though I've only taken one 25g tablet. Is that crazy? I've also had an upset stomach.

I've got a hen do next weekend and won't be able to go at this rate.

Do you think take it again tonight and see how I feel tomorrow? Is it terrible to start it then stop?

I hate this

Sorry you think the clomid is making you feel terrible. Do you take a b vitamin? I only ask because it's a hormone regulator and I find makes me feel a lot more energised, a lot more balanced, even when I feel down or sad. Perhaps a low dose might counteract some of the side effects? Also, sorry if this is way off the mark, but do you think you're worrying about it more because you were nervous about taking something that wasn't prescribed? I'm not saying the side effects are imagined but maybe you're extra stressed out at taking it rather than the clomid making you feel so terrible.

So dH and I HS again last night. I bled afterwards and have super sore nipples and breasts this morning so I think I probably OVd yesterday. Hopefully the morning shag got in, and technically the CD 7 go might also count.

Similar dilemma, can't decide whether to take progesterone again or not, can't help feeling it's responsible for my extremely early ovulation this month, perhaps I will stick with my B complex. Percentage of women who are pregnant in months when the experience LP spotting is pretty low though, so unless post sex spotting was ovulation bleeding, I'm not.hopeful.

Sorry! They were both really long.

Sorry you had a rough evening Jam and know this girl is your friend but she sounds a bit weird... either she was rubbing it in for some bizarre reason or she's just horribly insensitive so try not to worry about her. Can't personally comment on the Clomid and know you'll have already said but what was your reason for taking it? If you do think that it is making you more emotional then it is important to acknowledge that it is the Clomid that is doing it and really - you are fine. Maybe keep taking it this month as a sort of test as to whether it works for you or not?
Glad you got a GOS in flash - maybe being more relaxed in the build up to ov might do the trick!
I'm in full flow today - CD1. Feeling ok though, got my tears out yesterday but off for a family meal today and know one of my cousins will make a comment about babies so I'll need to be braced for that.

Flash - that is a very early ovulation you've had there. But I'd agree with Jam, you've definitely caught it. If I ovulated that early I'd miss it every time, well done for such early sex!

Jam - I really don't think 25mg would be enough to make you feel this way. So I'd continue but really up to you. Your friends sound fucking terrible.

Oh and CD1 for me, right on queue.

Sorry Skipper - hope you're ok. It's fucking shite eh?

Sorry to you too Fox - yeah I'd like to say the disappointment gets easier but it doesn't. If anything I feel more broken having had the HSG and Clomid to no effect.

We're going round to a see OH's family today and I really don't feel like it now. I don't know why I think I can do these things on CD1...

So sorry skipper there's nothing anyone can say is there? If you don't feel up to it today then say you are unwell and don't go xx

Flash you did well getting an early GOS in, keeping fx for you. I would take the progesterone if that's what you've been prescribed. Might as well give yourself the best chance

I took the second clomid. I think maybe it is me being hyper aware of the side effects, I don't know but I really don't feel in a good place. Maybe it's just me? Ugh.

I've messaged my friend from last night and apologised for being quiet or distant but I find some of her comments hard. I said "I'm sure you're not trying to rub it in" and acknowledged I'm very sensitive at the moment. Will see what she says. I know that I'm going to distance myself from her again as she always managed to upset me - and I don't want to end up being the bad guy for blanking my friend. I'd rather get it out there and call her out on it and say you are upsetting me, this is why I distance myself.

Will see what she says. I find it really hard to gauge whether it's me being very over sensitive or her being mean. Your replies have made me think the latter in this case.

So sorry skipper 🙁 It really is shit. If you don't feel up to it, definitely don't go - nothing worse than having to put on a face when you just want a bit of time to lick your wounds.

And good for you for saying something to your friend jam. I really think unless people have been through it, they just don't know how their throwaway words can affect someone so it's good to let her know. I'm sure I must have said some insensitive stuff in the past before ttc, it sounds silly to me now, but it just wouldn't have occurred to me then.

I think you've caught Ov as well flash!

I think I must have inadvertently said insensitive things before too pyjamas but never in front of a close friend who I know is suffering infertility. I'm really struggling to see whether it's me being too sensitive or her being mean and I think it's somewhere in the middle. I just know I wouldn't have said things like that in front of her had the situation been the other way around.

She has replied and apologised and said she didn't mean to upset me, didn't think etc. I feel quite wary of this friend for other reasons though so I think having some distance from her for a while is not a bad idea.

Thanks everyone. Felt a bit down about it this morning but more Zen now. I've ovulated, I've HS a couple of times. Can't do anything about it now.

Skipper I'm really sorry the witch got you. Try and stay strong this afternoon and have a big glass of wine later.

I think it's good and healthy to tell people when theyve hurt you or been insensitive. It means the people who didn't mean to get a chance to put it right and the people who don't care can be avoided in future!

Are you still feeling suitably chilled post-spa pyjamas.

Anyone ever feel really.bloated after ovulating. I feel about a stone heavier and my stomach/boobs look huge compared with yesterday!

I get that Flash - it's so uncomfortable! Maybe try some peppermint tea. Survived CD1 despite my cousin actually patting my stomach and asking questions today. She's bloody lovely too - just no idea obvs.

Well done you Flora. It's so hard isn't it. Especially when someone means well. I will definitely try some mint tea! Hadn't thought of that.

Thanks for the book recommendations - will check them out!

Cd1 here - yay!!!! Never thought I'd be so delighted to see AF. So relieved my cycles have come back after MVA. This was day 34 since the procedure so slightly delayed but not
much (usually 30-32 days). Going to indulge over the next few days and then get straight back into ttc again.

Happy bank hol all!

Morning ladies. Harriet glad you are feeling so positive. Enjoy your days of indulgence!

I'm freaking out a bit here. I'm bleeding like a very light period rather than spotting and my nipples are insanely sore. This all started about five days after AF, CD 11, which is very early for OV, and I had maybe 1 day of EWCM. This is exactly what happened with my ectopic. I've taken an IC, which is negative.

I don't know whether to waste a frer or just accept I'm freaking out over a cycle that's maybe just disrupted because of grief/stress after my grandads funeral.

Sorry for the rambling.

Not what you need on day one flora!

Great news harriet

Flash that sounds so confusing I'm not sure what to advise really, if you need to do a FRER to rest your mind I would go for it. Do you think it could be a CP possibly, leading to a more protracted bleed? I really am completely guessing here.

Clomid seems to have settled down over here, thank goodness. I've had a few hot flushes and my tummy is a bit unsettled but basically fine!

I think the list needs some updating; any more dates?

Lisa how are you doing? Hope all continuing to go well with you and missy

BFPs due
InspectorPenguin - 20 May
Tommygirl - 24 May
Alexia - 2 June
Katie - 3 June
Kerryleanne - 3 June
Bassetmum - 5 June
Binky - 13 June
Smittenpears - 18 June
Hep - 23 June
Jam - 23 June
Otters
Winging
Jeds
Flash
Pyjamas
Kathrino
Skipper
Rainbow
Quiettime
Piehunter
Flora
Pugmummy
Harriet
Hopefulbunny

Grads
Kav
Mrsg
Wanting
Music
ScottishLady7
Starmist
FXSkip
Dixiechick
NS
Presh
Gimble
Peachytech
Starfish
Colourmylife
Poppet
Peaches
Tonks
Kaydee
Miranda
Mac
Mrsbluebell
Glitter
Carley
Eva
Missy
Lisa

Thanks for the list jam! AF due (and therefore IVF due to start - eek!) on 19th May.

Fab news Harriet 😁

And how confusing flash!

Had such a great night out with DH last night sampling some ales - we haven't don't that for so so long and was great to feel 'normal' again. Had a weird dream that I was waiting hours and hours for my bag to appear at the airport - it's literally all I dreamed about and can't help but liken the feeling to waiting for that BFP!