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[mum03]

rahrah - for you a new thread!

weepootleflump - TBC CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - tbc CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - 36.1 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc

Not come one yet, but again another temp drop to 36.1 and still got bad period pains..So will probably come on today. If I do come on do I class that at CD1?

Fingers crossed for you Rahrah, but if you have full flow today, then I would count it as CD1 personally. Hang in there petal

Lottie, you aren't talking out of turn, don't worry. It's just that I have had pretty consistent charts since I started charting, and was really optimistic for this cycle, plenty of sex and it could all have been for nothing, no ovulation means no BFP no matter how much sex we had It's funny, I was telling Rahrah that same thing about annovulation happening and being perfectly natural, but when you realise it might be happening to yourself too, it's more raw. I have decided to write this month off, try not to worry anymore, and just concentrate on being more relaxed next cycle.

Oh, I set up a chart on FF, DH and I talked about using software yesterday, he thinks it will make me worse (probably right) and won't help me relax anymore than my booklet, so trying the free software first, if it helps then I'll get the TCOYF. Makes sense (darn I hate it when he's right ) cos if it makes me worse, I can just cancel the account and won't have wasted more money on ttc.

Just reading all the millions of posts I missed yesterday...

londonlottie - You are right I do need to relax and I also thing me and DH need to get some good exercise. I am still having a lot of ups and downs, which does not help for a healthy well being. Thanks for looking at my chart, how can I put a coverline in?

angelfire777 - I would love to speak to you...you have an amazing job! I do think you are right about the letting go..It's extremely hard. Thanks for the link. I don't mind speaking about him at all. A little boy, 1lb 7oz, called Bertie and he lived for 6hrs.

Ready - To be honest look at my attempt this month of using OPK's... maybe they are not great for you either... remember I was getting ever so upset, thinking I had not ovulated and now it's obvious I had around when I had a faint line... I think they are a bit pants actually..

weepootleflump - I just clicked too.. can't believe we are on the same thread.. Sending you a big hug all the way to Nuneaton..Has your body been a bit all over the place?

ammylovesolivia - I live in Coventry, so just round the corner too from you!

mum03 - you seem to still be holding high temps... have you maintained these above your coverline? I'm feeling a bit better, just a lot going on at the moment with other things and then TTC on top is just such a struggle of emotions... I have a bereavement midwife from the hospital, but to be quite frank she's not one to really listen. I have signed up to cruse and waiting for an appointment. They have about a 8 week waiting list.

seaside72 - Glad to hear to found FF..and holding a good temp. Thanks for all the info and looks like everyone else will be joining in too..

greedyforbabies - Good luck for today!

minxi - enjoy Dorset!!

I hope I have not missed anyone off, but need to go as will get in trouble with DH very soon, as he has taken the day off to be with me today.

Thanks Ready, same back to you. To be honest you have had loads of sex this month, so pretty much covered well. My chart and OPK were all over the place, I have had lots of tests done by the fertility clinic and nothing has come back so far, which included a test to detect ovulation. So through out my panicking the tests they do are conclusive, where charting and OPK are not. So what I am trying to say is that although the chart/opk are not perfect does not mean that you have not ovulated.
I think its sod law that some people have perfect charts and spot on ovulation indicated by a big positive OPK... and people like us need that confirmation to relax... but thats not reality and life is never black and white. I will phone the clinic and if the tests are definitely all normal for me then I need to accept my body is normal and that it's just bad luck that we have not caught yet. Have you been to the doctors yet? Mine did not do anything for 12 months... but its good to register that you are TTC and the length of time you have been trying. Then if you have still not conceived by 11-12 months you can get a referral to the clinic and have the tests. It is mind numbing the length of time you have to wait, but for these clinic's time is what is normally needed for most couple and then tend to conceive natural in the end... but just takes longer for some... But you have been trying 6 months and thats completely normal....

Thanks Rahrah, everything you say makes sense! I am the first to give out advice, but the worst at following it myself. I genuinely think this month is annovulatory, and now that I have my head round it, I have come to terms with it. It's not going to be our month, onwards and upwards though.

I went to my GP just before we started trying, just to get it logged on my notes, and to ask for some advice. My GP is brilliant, she chatted for ages, and told me not to expect it to happen straight away etc. This is cycle 6, so another 6 to go before they will investigate, I really hope it doesn't come to that

Good luck with your test results, fingers crossed for that

really sorry, no time to read everones posts at the mo and i really want to, but just to let you know that my scan was fine...in fact it was great! i saw my tiny ickle baby with its heart beating away! only 11mm in size!!!! i am sooooooooo happy and relieved its untrue!!!.......i know im not out of the woods yet.......but its a big step!

sorry, i hope thats not completely insensitive, but i really wanted to tell you all.

have a good day all, mum03 whats happening with you?
rahrah? any more signs of af?
sorry i will catch up kater!

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Ready - as rahrah said all these charting tools are ultimately flawed - because there seems to be an exception to every rule - I bet you would be able to find someone with a similar chart and temp pattern who got a BFP at the end of it. It is just such a lottery. Hang in there

Like lottie said I think we have to just use the info we gather to observe and inform us. I have just gotten back from my GP after the dreaded 12 month appointment and much to my surprise he was really lovely (not like the judgemental locum I saw in October who said I should stop all testing and charting and just have sex 3 times a week and come back in 18 months if no BFP.) This time my reg GP (who I had seen 18 months ago when came off the pill) said he thought it was time to start some more testing, asked me what CD I was and then said - how convenient i had come on day 21!! (not convenient at all - totally planned by me!!) so he took loads of bloods and said he is booking DH in for tests too (DH a bit at the prospect of sample giving in a hospital!!)

Anyway - it probably won't know any results for a month or so but it was nice to feel listened to and not feel dismissed.

Have to say am secretly praying I am one of the many who seem to start testing and then get a BFP

Rahrah - glad to see no red flags on your tests so far - the more I read the more I think you could so benefit from some alternative therapies. I have utter confidence you will get that BFP. A very good friend of mine lost her first baby at birth (full term) after TTC for 4 years and one m/c - it was a tragedy and they genuinely thought they would never recover - but - now 4 years on she has 2 beautiful DS's (the first conceived 9 months after their loss) They still say if someone had told them how it would end up in the first 6 months after their loss they wouldn't have believed it . (I know that they found great help from SANDS) Sorry if I have overstepped the mark with naive advice - I will shut up now

Yay greedy!! wonderful news - so happy for you!

weepootleflump - 36.69 CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - tbc CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - 36.1 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc)

Rahrah, my cycle has been pretty erratic since the birth, beforehand I was like clockwork. I do know my body better now though, so that helps a lot.

Sorry, no time to chat - have to entertain MIL

greedyforbabies - so happy for you.. XX

Ready - you seem to have everything in hand

seaside72 - you have totally not over stepped the mark, far from it. I am so pleased for your friend and sometimes I do need people saying 'It will happen'..I know it!!

weepootleflump - I know what you mean, all that time before trying and I could not tell you when I ovulated. The only reason I knew how long my cycles were etc, was because we had to fill out 6 months of information for the clinic..otherwise I would not of know that either...LOL.... Good luck with the MIL..Your very brave!

Guys, I've been trying to catch up all morning but have failed sorry ladies! so pleased for you Greedy, I really am, SO hope that I get good news on Friday too. Rahrah - I'm about to email you. Hello to all!

thanks mrs! i was blown away! and you will be on friday too!

Greedy!! Wooo! Great news, how very exciting

Seaside, I hope you are right, I hope my temps are not indicative of my actual cycle this month (maybe having the window open at night on 2 occasions may have affected me ) but to be honest, I am kind of resigned to not ovulating this month. It's great that your GP was helpful, it certainly makes you feel better I think, when they take you seriously. Some GPs can be awful. Fingers crossed you get your BFP now that the ball is rolling

Rahrah, I have wanted to say "it will happen" to you lots of times, but some people don't like my positivity and I am trying to be less in your face and insenstive, but cos you want to hear it, I will remember to tell you

Lottie, are you bored

Ready - certainly not a bitch, those other WAGS would have your guts for garters!

I have been around my fair share of bitches in that respect MrsMc

Any updates on your possible move Ready?

Lottie - LOL about my DH and also about you out-smarting your GP - I thought I was cunning!! If I were you I would try and make an appt for CD21 and then tell them the info you have about OV - cos then they can always say -come back in 3 days - but if you go on CD24 they might say - no must be CD21 - IYKWIM?

greedys scan - still making me smile - can't wait for MrMcJnrs too - not that I am living vicariously through you both or anything!!!

Right - next "operation TTC" update - for those interested in the cranio-sacral therapy -lottie, angel, rahrah et al: just got back from session and she said I was overflowing with pent up emotion - no kidding!! - and I was holding it all in my abdomen - hence why she thinks I could be FTC, my body is not allowing it - (Yes - I know - need to relax - but as I seem unable to do this for myself - I am going to have to pay someone else to relax me!!). Who of us here is not full of emotion - none of us I think!! . Having suffered with IBS before I am aware that I "hold" my stress in that area of my body - ie if I am stressed that is the first sign. Rahrah - not sure if you feel the same?
Anyway it felt really good and I defintely felt release and more relaxed afterwards - she said I may get very emotional later - so may see me in the Hut tonight!!!

I am very aware that this sort of therpay is not right for everyone -and if I find out DH has no swimmers next month I'll prob be back on here saying its all a load of phoey! (not really - I know it really works or me but I appreciate not nec everyone)

rahrah - I know when my friend was told positive stories she always used to say to me " Great - but doesn't mean its going to happen to me tho does it" so I appreciate how it can be nice to hear them but not nec that helpful. (If I am wrong and it is genuinely helpful I have another story? - but won't babbale unless wanted! )
IMO you are amazing

Ready - you never know this month - you may get a surprise ( I sound like you usually do - PMA )

Weepootleflump - seems like you MIL entertaining goes above and beyond the call of duty - well done!

MrsMcJnr, thinking of you for Friday How exciting!!! It's all up in the air at the moment re: the summer, there's a chance he'll be on the bench this weekend, which is a step forward. And if he can do well, everything may change again, but DH said "it's not looking likely" when I suggested a new contract yesterday, so it's just a waiting game really . I am beginning the think all the uncertainty may hold the key to not conceiving?? Which is even more frustrating, because it is likely to always have plenty of uncertainty, and I can't wait til he retires!!

Seaside, you are right, alternative therapies don't work for everyone, but for those that do get helped by them, that is great. Back in my home town a good friend of mine is a reflexologist and I would definitely be having sessions with her now if we lived closer!! If I am not pregnant by the summer, I might just have to book in when we visit friends and family.

Hi all, sorry I have not been on here all day, I have actually had to do some work at work - how dreadful!

As my temps are lower than before and near to coverline now, I feel confident that this is cd 5, I am hoping that having a short af means that o will come early, and that is when I have gotten pg before. I am thinking wishfully but hey relaxing and thinking positive is what we all need around here.

Greedy - so pleased to hear that your little bean is doing ok.

I got acupuncture before getting pg the first time, I went for back pain but when I told her I was ttc, she added in a couple more needles for that too, I know it didn't do any harm, and for all I know it might well have helped! I think anything that helps to think relaxed and positive, whether it be alternative therapy or charting, is the best thing to do!

Ready - funny I had already set up a ff chart for you and was asking you to email so I could send you all the details! I had entered all of cycle 5 and the start of this cycle! That way I could have got free vip days if you signed up for vip after the trial too!!!! But really I know I will have to sign up for more vip days again soon, I think I only registered for 3 months, I did it first on the day my af was due one month having just got a bfn, then three days later got my bfp and had to put all the months on hold, I only re-instated the months recently so I have no idea how much time I have left this time, but for certain, it will only be after I have paid out again, that I will get my bpf lol!!!!

Rah - have been thinking about you all day, glad that you are a little better today, hope that af comes and lets you get on with another cycle, although really I wish that you got your bfp instead, but just remember - it will happen, I know it will.

Oh Mum03, I am touched you set up an account for me. Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you had put my details into your chart I am a div at times!! You went to all that trouble for me and how rude am I!! So sorry.

In all honesty, I wouldn't sign on for the VIP, if I get on well with online charting I will buy the TCOYF software as I find the charts nicer to look at (I'm all about the looks!!). Using FF was a compromise with DH because I have a tendancy to get more controlling the more I analyse, so this way we can see if I do get worse with software in which case, I will cancel my account without wasting money.

Just lost a post - argg...have to retype now.

Ready - Its ok I was just trying to save you some typing , Do you know if the TCOYF software can overlay cycles like ff? I do like the picture in the other software too!

Rahrah - My coverline went up dramatically last month, don't know why, and if my temps don't go down soon, I don't know how I will be able to see and o change this month, I am still near coverline at the moment, don't know if I am just above or just below it, but as the general trend is downwards I assume that maybe tomorrow I might be finally definitely below coverline of 36.66. So can I trade temps with you, you need some hot ones and I need some cool ones, fair trade I think! You can use the hot ones now, or save them for the next cycle if you want!