Thread 19 TTC#1 Just. Keep. Swimming.

[AliceScarlett]

Hugh enjoys ISW and his love affair with Doreen. He watches out for skittle tits and weepyitis. Mrs Arseholey Fucknut (Af) shows up when you least want her but brings wine and soft cheese as a consolation prize.

We don't have rules as such but expect to be talked down from the ledge with kind and well meaning but firm words if you get too hysterical. But most importantly don't convince yourself you're pregnant in the tww That is paramount! It messes with your head and makes you crazy crazier

We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts. We want a fanny full of determined Doreen, not unicorn farts and gnome tears with extra sparkle. We've been going a while now so the novelty has somewhat worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area.

Post your stats and add your dates. A more lovely, supportive group of ladies you couldn't wish to meet. We like it when the grads stick around. No question is too daft. We have opk experts, cervical mucus management teams and symptom spotters extraudinaire!

Don't mention ages, kwick will go mental .

Well if you're trying for #1 I would hope that none of your mother's issues would have affected you yet. They can run tests for signs of early menopause, I can't quite remember what it entails but someone definitely had it checked out on the bus thread. Could be good to put your mind to rest?

I think it's something I'd ask for if we're still not having any luck in a year or so. She also said she "caught" straight away so I'd rather that be hereditary lol

thanks penguin

enjoy Rome mouse and mrs

skip don't worry about ranting here !!! the whole point of this thread (well for me) is that it is a place for us all to rant vent freely when we need to. And I certainly have ! better out than in ! hope you are feeling better today.

(10 days to go )

I have no news..... still on work trip in europe, but at least I can enjoy plenty of
The plans for the new kitchen are coming along....

Thanks hep - yeah I know, I want to stay positive though. And positivity breeds positivity, so want to be as supportive to everyone else as I can be. Just a slight wobble but it's all good.

Just 10 days huh, it's going by so quick. How do you feel at the moment? It's great you've got your trip and home plans to distract you in the interim.

Mouse . What is OP??

Thanks jem if I cannot make it with recommended therapist will try where you say - easy for me to get to, sort of... well its near my FC anyway!!!

Fricking itching is back with a vengance... may take an antihistamine so I sleep soundly. Maybe I have become allergic to work?

Mouse maybe you should pay to have a scan done? They are not that expensive and could give you mahoosive peace of mind? They usually do an ORT (ovarian reserve test) on days 1-3 - they check for cysts and see how many follicles you have in your ovaries.

Ha,ha sk1pper!! You know me and my fiery Spanish temper well!

Hep hope your trip is going well and that the accomodation is meeting your needs (and not giving you bed bugs!).

What the hell can it be??? Please forgive nail "situation" - I need to get a pedicure!!!

mouse loving the temping excitement! Don't worry too much about the 3 hours uninterrupted sleep beforehand thing. I think if you focus on it too much then you end up preempting your alarm and waking up too early. That's what happens to me if I'm expecting an important temp day but I just tend to lie still and try and get back to sleep until the right time.

winging ooh exciting that you're so close to expected AF and still getting high temps. Are you planning to poas? Do you have a chart to share? I love seeing other people's.

alexia sorry to hear about spotting but you're right, it's so good that temping has given you more of an understanding of what is going on. I'm with you on wanting to bring on the next cycle!

And on that note - hep please can you update my date on the schedule to unknown and I'll keep you posted! I'm awaiting AF but it could be any time. Thank you! You're so good at keeping us focussed! Glad you're enjoying plenty of on your trip.

music updated !

sl1ver how are you doing?

kwick - don't worry, it's just your foot.

music nope not going to poas until at least a week over due, I've learnt my lesson on that! I'll only be 10dpo so nothing would show up anyway. I don't have FF but here's my ovia chart with my temp pattern :-)

A bit crampy today but I have come down with a cold as predicted this morning so not sure what effect that's having on things.

Kwick Sorry I meant DP lol. Although other partner works too.

That on your foot is a heat rash. Have you been scratching? Wearing tight socks? Uncomfortable shoes? Changed your washing powder. Funnily enough I watched something unrelated to TTC and it mentioned around the ankles being very much in tune with your ovaries in Chinese medicine. Maybe have a little search?

Music sound advice. Thank you. I'll try not to get disheartened if I wake early. To be honest it wasn't much different at 7am maybe .02 of a change.

kwick insect bites?

My mum had all of my siblings and me in her 30s. She had me at 39....

In the 2ww here & been having ovulation type pains. Hate driving myself crazy with symptom spotting, they never end up meaning anything only managed to DTD once at a decent time so not holding out much hope.

winging - chart looks good, a pre ovulation dip then a steady rise. I would consider switching to FF for temping, I've tried both Ovia and FF and FF is better by far IMO.

starmist - once can be enough! Fx

I don't know if anyone else gets it, but my temps are all over the place during AF and then they fall into the normal ranges on about the 6-7th day.

Well my temp was quite low this morning 35.95 so I can probably say I'm out this cycle lol but it means I'm now focused on AF hopefully arriving next Friday. Can't believe I've had cramps for almost 3 weeks now. Coming off the pill has properly messed me up. I kinda hope she turns up early now.

Days off pill - 20. Days crazy - 20. Lol

Hi ladies, can I join you?

TTC#1
Age 38
Off the pill for 16 months (was on it for 18 years!)
Cycle 10 TTC seriously
Early MC in March (cycle 3 TTC)
Cycle 2 of using Fertility Freind and temping
Currently 5 dpo, AF due 13 October... (A day after you starmist)

Not been on Mumsnet since MC at Easter which I know is common and sad to hear some of you have experienced it too, although it was only at 7 weeks, it really effected me emotionally. I have turned it into a positive and at least I know I can get pregnant, especially as I am getting on a bit! A girl at work is due at the same time I would have been so I get a daily reminder of what could have been!

Hopeful for this month as timed DTD well... We shall see! Trying not to go mad symptom spotting this month but hard not to, shame most symptoms are also signs that AF is on her way!

Good luck for this cycle everyone!

welcome margo !
(I am now picturing you as penelope keith btw)

I've added you to the list.

kwick I'm still going with some sort of insect bites ... try covering your foot with hydrocortisone cream.

margo welcome

Hep You always seem to have such a PMA. I really admire you. Enjoy the wine and any other yummy culinary delights on your trip.

star totally with you on the symptom spotting ... I had a cold 7 dpo. I work with children but surely it's more likely to mean I'm upduffed. I know it's the same 2 weeks as any other cycle but it's driving me a bit potty!

Kwik that looks pretty itchy and sore. Have you got a good cream to put on? I find Eurax cream very good at soothing insect bites and other irritations.

Jem No I didn't have any bloods done. He said "Six months is only six attempts to get pregnant , that's nothing. Come back in the new year if you're still trying then" and sent me on my way with a flea in my ear.

I don't want to go back and see anyone else really as I left feeling pretty embarrassed and I don't want to get a bad rep as a time waster.

I shall follow your journey very closely though and maybe do the tests privately in Jan if no news by then.

Winging I don't know much about temping but even I know that chart looks pretty promising. Fingers crossed for you!

Sk1pper I'm glad you're feeling more positive today but can completely understand why it threw you so much. And sorry to hear your periods are so awful; that must make things so much harder.
Hope you see some improvement and are feeling better soon.

Alexia Hope you find your way out of no man's land soon. Has spotted turned into proper AF yet to start your next cycle proper?

Mouse I am 36 next month - you are a youngster! You've only been off the pill 20 days, honestly that's nothing. Having cramps for a while after is very normal too. When I stopped taking it (after 18 years!) I felt crampy and nauseous for the best part of a month, if not longer.
My first cycle was 38 days, it eventually got down to 31, and now seems back up at around 35. Annoying as I was very reliably 28 days as a teenager and this means each cycle really drags....

Welcome Margo! I too am picturing Penelope Keith :)
Very sorry to hear about your MC, but I would definitely take getting a BFP in month 3 to be a good sign. I know that must sound like hollow reassurance when you've been through that though. Best of luck for the rest of your journey.

Not a lot to report from Inspector Towers. CD30 and somewhere between 7-9 DPO (assuming ovulation happened!). Have had my standard pre-AF mild cramps and spots appearing on my face.
I had the most epic night sweats on Monday which were pretty gross. Everything on the bed was soaked and I felt like I'd just had a shower in my own glandular excretions.
Anyway, a bit of research suggests it's very normal to sweat in the luteal phase as the BBT is higher, but severe sweating is linked to age-related hormone imbalances. Wonderful!

And on that note I'd better get on with some work. Hope you all have a good day!

margo - welcome, really nice to have you here and sorry to hear about your MC. But you're right, at least you know your body is capable of conceiving. Good luck on your journey xx

penguin - I had the same problem with my GP at 12 months. Do what I'm doing, go back, see a different GP and lie and over exaggerate about everything. Even my sisters friend who's a Doctor has told me exactly what to say (and which things to give emphasis to) to get things rolling as quickly as possible. I can let you know how it goes but please don't leave it any longer if you are worried, I've always regretted not going back sooner.

Thanks Sk1pper I know that's what I should do, but they have on file when I originally started TTC (because of something said when picking up last pack of pills) and also now when I went back after six cycles. So they'll know if I exaggerate :(
It would be interesting to know what things get them taking notice though? DP is a doctor and he hasn't got the foggiest!

It's ridiculous that they've put it on file when they didn't offer any support or referral. Any chance you can change GP? I know it's a ball ache but it may be worth it, they sound as useless as my surgery.

Everything my sisters friend told me to say is on my computer, I can outline it when I get home from work if you want. Some of it wont be relevant to your history but you can possibly adapt it to your own experiences. Its pretty bad I have to 'manipulate' my GP into helping me (though is it manipulation when you know you need help?!) but so be it.

The thing I found most shocking in my first appointment was that the Doctor (female) seemed extremely uncomfortable talking about sex, menstruation and cycles. I lead the whole conversation, and she only gave me 1-3 word answers.

Gaahh temp dip this morning. ..think AF on her way

Still no AF here Hep still testing negative. I'm feeling pretty nauseous but my boobs are normal. No fucking idea what's going on as I'm usually fairly regular.

winging how much of a dip? That's a bummer. FX it rallies for you!!

silver ooh hope that's a good sign! How many dpo are you?

skipper definitely interested in what things to emphasise when you go to the docs. Depending on how my next couple of cycles pan out I might go because mine seem pretty irregular and want to get that checked.

mouse I think it's hard to read into temps until you have a few of them to give you an idea of what is a normal level for you and what kind of fluctuations you get. Also, my first cycle after implant removal was over 50 days - although I think the pill is better for that.