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Lol well you never know poms v beagles v dragons it might catch on! I completely understand I was only 5 weeks when I had my cp but it was already consuming! Have you found out the gender?

Well I had two contraceptive implants so no periods at all for five years. Then the first month off that was literally perfect textbook cycle, bfp on cd33, ovulated day 15, temps were steady and low, triphasic and then high. Then obviously it wasn't. I had the first cycle after the cp which was painful and a mess for 35 days and didn't ovulate. Then the month after I got so sick I couldn't track anything. Now this month and I am totally bloody confused. I've attached my chart, just in case any of you ladies can offer any insight because I'm totally lost.

Hi beagles , welcome!
Sounds like you have a similar crazy cycle like me following a cp.
Looking at your chart it looks rather similar to mine same range of temps. I had a dip like yours but I didn't get 3 high temps after to confirm ovulation. Looks possible that you ovulated on cd16 if u get another couple of high temps. Fingers crossed X

How you doing Jem?

I remember getting those dreams too parney. I use to freak myself out!! Have you got most things ready at home?

Kate,agree u need to think of yourself. Take care X

Great news russ glad its all going well

Welcome beagles

I'm feeling very low still - very hormonal. Will try not to bring you all down. Spoke to doctor earlier who said I ovulated fine, progesterone etc all fine. Prolactin is slightly raised - it's 650. I text my doctor mate and she said that's at the top end of what they consider to be normal. So it's only slightly high.

She said it "could be" stopping me getting pregnant, but they need to repeat the blood test. More waiting

So today my temp dipped and ff had decided my ovulation was CD15. Still confused though because my clearblue digi dual hormone one has only said low this month. Nothing else. But I've been doing cheapies, they were slowly darkening and the darkest and clearest of those was on Sunday. Which was CD15. Then they've gone light to nothing since. Ugh god only knows.

Sorry to hear about your cp footy have your cycles settled down at all since?

parney ignore the dreams! They lie. My mummy promised me labour was just like a big poo. Not painful at all

london sorry you're feeling low. Whilst not immediately helpful at least the tests are coming back normal? I know more waiting and stuff but got to jump on anything positive you can

Jem, I wouldn't take one test result as gospel hon. I for a fact know that levels change month to month. Lots of factors can cause high prolactin such as stress, diet, sleep etc..so could just be high on that day. I'd see if they would do test again in a couple of months.
I'm fed up too! At least I can guzzle a wine tonight whilst waiting for AF

Beagle- I had over 20 almost positives and some even positives but still didn't ovulate. The temping thing I find more accurate. You can only sit and wait I guess and see if AF arrives in 14-16 days time?
Takes time to settle down after pill and cp's I have learned.
No my cycle hasn't settled down - haven't ovulated this cycle. Felt gutted and cheated as dtd almost every other day to hit the jackpot but jackpot didn't arrive.
Going back on Angus castus - that seemed to regulate me after pill. Have you tried that?

Just a Random..

Having a sort through my knicker drawer and found a FRER test that I took after the BFP on cheapy Internet test when I think I had a cp. the FRER was negative when I took it the following day but now can see a line! Talk about torturing me!?! Defo not preggers now so I'm not certain these tests are any good. I def didn't see a line before so I'm sure they give out dodgy lines when they dry.
Think I'll stick to clear blue in future!

Hello!

Just thought id pop in and say hi. I think of you jem and hope it happens for you soon, sounds like you have some exciting house buying adventures coming up and some tests? Good luck in both!

I couldnt see any other names i recognised but sending positive vibes to the group.

Just an idea, im dabbling in a bit of hypnobirthing which is great. I wonder if something similar could work for ttc? Being relaxed, visulisations on getting pregnant and so forth. Not sure it exists but im sure there must be something out there! Maybe youtube?

Anyway, take care guys! x

Hi all,

welcome Beagle. I'm a big GOT fan as well. I'm a mother of 2 spaniels, the dragons would definitely be in trouble if they mistook them for birds! Tracking cycles can make you go nuts! My tactic for my 2 successful cycles (1 chemical, one missed miscarriage) was to keep going with the dtd throughout the tww, up until implantation every other day, tiring but means your covered if you have a late ovulation which it looks like happened to me.

Footy I don't like FRER but i ended up with the opposite problem, there WAS a line within the time but i found my test in my drawer recently and it had disappeared. I am sticking with an IC. they worked well this time. BUT didn't get very dark even when I was 6 weeks pregnant so I don't think there is a lot or reagent in them. I confirmed things with a clear blue early result. Will they change your dose of clomid if you didn't ovulate?

Jem: its so frustrating waiting isn't it. My sister was seen at the fertility clinic and for one reason and another they basically told her to come back in a year. (her DH was advised to get healthy, less alcohol etc). She has been trying for two years so its a kick in the teeth.

Mimi, i am so sorry that you haven't had your BFP. Thank you for all your support along the way. I have been thinking about when that point might come for me, as I have two beautiful children and if its not to be then I think i could be ok with that, but I am not ready to say that yet.

Kate, hope you feel better soon, don't bust a gut for this job, you already know there will be no recognition for your hard work. If you are not well that's it you shouldn't be at work. (I know i'm the worst for this too). Focus on the endpoint, you have a new job to look forward to, I hope you can go at Christmas but you need to have a firm point at which you are gone even if they HAVEN'T employed your successor as you don't make the job sound very appealing!

Tee I'm well thank you. The bleeding stopped a couple of days ago and my libido returned with a vengeance. never been so happy to see a BFN on a IC so i hope thats all finished with.
Yesterday there was a lot of EWCM and tingly nips which is a definite ov sign for me. did my last OPK which is very nearly positive and I think it will peak later today or tomorrow. DTD last night and DH was so sweet, he was cautious initially as he didn't want to hurt me (Midwife suggested waiting until after AF which I think he thought meant no DTD!) I reassured him that it was more about dating the next pregnancy.

Spoke to soon, that I think that opk IS positive?????

beagles it's mostly positive news, I do need to hold onto that. It's just the prolactin - the doctor said it could be stopping us conceiving. They will repeat it I think so hopefully it will be lower. 650 is at the higher end of normal so its not like its terrible

footy I thought FRERs were the best! I wonder if its because it's been hanging around a while?

hi vix thanks for your positive wishes, hope you are well

nim great news you are fertile again so quickly. Your OH sounds very thoughtful. God I can sympathise with your sister - is she trying for her first? Have they found anything on results that could be causing it to take so long?

Ok so maybe I didn't ovulate. My temp dipped again this morning. And now FF is like woman?! What you doing?! Thing that's really annoying me is that I don't know if it's a messed up cycle or if it's because I'm ill and it's throwing me off? Not dtd at all really either. Coughing up phlegm at 5 minute intervals doesn't shout "come here stud"! The thing that's confusing me the most though is how similar this cycle is to the one that started my miscarriage (i.e. First day of AF was start of miscarriage) I've put a picture on to see if it's just me. The green is this cycle.

london I get where your coming from, whilst nothing bad is good news you sometimes wish there was something to be diagnosed, a name, something to fight. Just got to keep going and try and stay smiling

footy I thought frers were good too bit weird. But as they are both same price may as well stick with the CB ones!

nim you must be part machine lol keeping going that long I wish I could atm but so I'll dtd during what I thought was fertile window really wasn't good! Also, I feel your pain I think spaniels and beagles have a special kind of crazy in common! Really exciting to get your positive OPK! And your dh sounds so sweet lol

vix that hypnobirthing for ttc sounds interesting. Have to let us know if you find anything.

Hey Nim, great news that you are getting the surge. Fingers crossed it will happen first time!
Not sure if they'll up my dose as it might just be effect from cp? Otherwise I might pop out a lot of Multiples?! Eeek. I'll discuss with the gynaecologist see what he recommends? Not sure he'll prescribe anymore though as I've had 6 months worth. Two cycles left. Wasted 2 with non anovulatory cycles so feel only had chance with 2 cycles and one of those was a cp. Not sure what the highest dosage they will prescribe? I'm on 100mg already.

Beagle, your temps are a bit jumpy, but think your miscarriage cycle doesn't necessary show any temp problems and unless your temp takes a higher peak this cycle and stay up,I'd say your body is trying to ovulate. I could be wrong, but my temps are exactly like that. The norethisterone that I'm taking is progesterone and since taking that my temps have shot right up to 36.70 and above. This is the usual temps I have after ovulation so know I def haven't ovulated previously this cycle. Hope u feel better soon x

Beagle, just noticed that your temps are generally lower than mine anyway so ignore that! I see what u say, and why U are confused. Yes, so it's possible that you did ovulate? What day did u ovulate on the other chart?

footy as you say talk to your doctor and go from there? You sound like you have a good handle on your charts and things and that's always a good place to work from? Sorry I don't have any further wisdom I am a complete novice! As for the anovulatory cycles don't beat yourself up it's just one of those things unfortunately!

The cycle after my MC I ovulated on cd23 after temps being all over the place. I also didn't get a positive cheapie OPK or a peak on the digi OPK. The cycle before when I got my bfp I ovulated on CD15 after a textbook temp chart. On that cycle I got a glowing cheapie OPK and two perfect days of CB peak. I'm telling myself it's just body getting back to normal and as soon as I got over the mc I got really ill so my body is just out of whack but it will be fine. But I think underneath I really am panicking that I really screwed something up. sorry I know I should be more positive and some women have far worse problems just can't seem to get the worries totally out of my head.

Hopefully the gynae will have sound advice for you footy when are you seeing them?

Don't give yourself a hard time beagles TTC is emotional and can be really painful and hard at times. Pick yourself back up when you feel ready.

My mood fluctuates massively depending on my cycle - PMS makes me so low and weepy it's almost impossible to feel positive. AF coming today or tomorrow so I'll feel more normal when the progesterone starts subsiding.

Day 1 cycle 12! Here we go again..

Oh Jem, I'm so sorry. Did you have any hopeful symptoms or did you deep down know AF was coming? Have a glass of wine , I'm joining you.

Appointment is on Tuesday so will see what they say. If timing is right I wouldn't have started the clomid so will give the gynae opportunity to either increase the dose or suggest something else.

Day 4 of prog pills -Definitely progesterone not good for me! I'm one hot chick!! Temp this morning was 36.98!! Hottest ever been. At least I can spot what is pregnancy symptoms now. Had headache every day since the pills, bloody nose (tee, this must have been your pregnancy symptom as must be increase of progesterone that causes it). Felt slightly nauseous, tired, fed up, moody..
This ttc business is definitely not easy.

Beagle, don't worry I don't think the mc would have caused any further probs, it might just delay things in getting cycle back to normal. Let's hope it will get back to normal soon for us both! You never know u may have already ovulated?

Hey Nim, forgot to ask are you temping?

Hope you grads are well! Tee, have u seen midwife yet?

Thanks guys. But if a better day today! My boobs are swollen and killing me so I'm pretty sure Im past ovulation now. They've never hurt before hand. Only afterwards!

Mood swings really suck jem is your dh good with you or does he get impatient? Mine had only ever known me without hormone induced moods thanks to the implant so my pms was a real shock to him lol. Cycle 12, positive thoughts and lucky vibes!

That timing is really good footy I hope the gynae has some new plans! I'm not surprised you feel like that with a temp that high! Did you see the latest iron man when pepper got infected with that heat thing? That's what I'm imagining you look like right now.

Ha ha beagles! Lol yeah that's me all sweaty...although my hair is dark brown!
I woke up in night absolutely burning! Went gym today and I was extra sweaty.

Jem, do u exercise? Are u still doing acupuncture? I Had a lush jacuzzi after gym today and was really relaxed. Maybe you need some you time at this moment.. Or a shopping spree take your mind off it. You fertile window not far off so don't let it knock you X

Ooh footy id like to volunteer for a day like that too!

Haha I just imagine you now sat at home. Steaming. Doing the dishes. Steaming. Watching tv. Steaming. Dh turns to tell something funny. Sees steaming face. Quickly shuts up. Haha sorry this has amused me far too much. Sorry to make fun of your temp!!!

My boobs feel like someone poured concrete in them. As they are quite sizeable in on of themselves this is not fun. Anyone got any deflating tips?

Hello everybody!!
Beagles I hear so much about GOT but never watched, sounds like I'm missing out. Not usually one for fantasy type stuff, love a good gritty crime drama.
Footy I definitely felt a bit sweaty in my 2ww and yes had that bloody nose!! Really hope you get good news soon.
Jem really sorry to see you back at square one, but I am bias about the prospects of cycle 12! You are in the same boat having started the tests too, I hope you are as lucky as I was. Are you booked for the scan yet? I would definitely line up some relaxing plans if you can.
Nim hope you managed as much DTD as you'd hoped over FW. Sorry if already asked and answered, but are you on low dose aspirin?

Think all progressing OK over here. Feeling only very mildly nauseous. Not enough to put me off food or stop me doing anything. Feels a bit like car sickness, but nowhere near as debilitating, I suffer terribly with that! I've got into the habit of leaving my top bottom of my jeans undone! Feeling slightly plump. Couldn't resist buying a few maternity bits too, I've waited so long to do that... but I won't be ready to wear them for ages yet!! xx

I'm doing okay thanks girls. It wasn't a surprise at all this month so I don't have that awful disappointment. Scan is on the 28th tee bit of an annoying wait.

I've got to stay positive. My blood test was mostly normal - I am ovulating. Prolactin tiny bit raised so I need to relax and unwind more. DH got a normal result for his second SA. So far there is nothing seriously wrong with either of us - so it should just happen.

Thrilled that everything is going well for you tee

All tests my end are normal I just have few issues with ovulation now! Really frustrated.
Glad your OH's test was good Jem.

Glad you are well tee, I don't blame you out buying maternity things, I'd b the same. My jeans feel right and I'm not even pregnant

Beagles ha ha yeah I'm still hot! Temp sky high this morning again, and had terrible night tossing and turning. Def feel like AF here soon.
How many dpo are you?