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beagles hope you managed to catch the egg and you wake up to another temp rise . onto the dreadful tww now. Fx

Sorry you are not feeling well nim .hope you get well soon . rest up dear.

earth sorry for what you are going through. Sending big hugs.

3rd day temp rise whoop whoop! Oh god that means tww now . My boobs are still killing me which is really confusing me. So 3dpo and my temps are higher than they were the month I got my bfp but not massive jumps, seem to go up in .05 increments every day. Not sure what that means but oh well.

Sorry the witch got you mimi! At least on a fresh cycle now? How you feeling in yourself?

Glad your temp is up beagles.now is the waiting game .
If I am not mistaken, this is cycle 18 for me. It is pretty disheartening but I am kind of used to getting af now . right now l want to enjoy the xmas shopping and am hoping that maybe just maybe Santa will make my wish come true (af due xmas eve).lf not, l will drink my way into the new year lol

Still no AF footy? Fx for you!

Sorry it wasn't your cycle mimi better luck this month

Beagles that boob thing is nonsense. Progesterone rises in the TWW to prepare your body for pregnancy - regardless of whether your egg gets fertilised or not. So all those lovely progesterone effects happen regardless - mood swings, sore boobs, acne, etc etc. So don't trust the boobs! Good luck for your TWW !

Good idea to focus on Christmas tee think I'll be doing the same. My next egg is scheduled on Christmas Day in fact am 11 DPO today and honestly feel nothing out of the ordinary. Just tired of TTC and pretty sad most of the time, just trying to keep a brace face on

Still no AF? But an IC bfn of second urine.
Even dtd last night to try start it? Cramps still there. I give up! I have no idea?!
Temps coming down..36.44 today so I guess I ovulated later? Or.. Clomid just completely messes everything up.
Still got progesterone symptoms so I just think it's stalling. I don't feel pregnant.

Reply properly later as I've got to dash out but hope you are all ok..

Keeping my fingers crossed for you footy
Ignore the bfn - some people don't get a positive until a week after AF due!
As long as AF is not here then I have hope for you xx

Cervix I can't feel? It's disappeared ? Am I going mad beagles? Painful boobs turned to tingly boobs. I think I need a glass of wine for this crazy cycle. Been very good up til now but I do find this whole tracking cycle more stressful. Out tonight, so going to have a glass of bubbles, come home and jump DH! Keeping it up all all through the cycle now as I just don't know what is what.

Thanks jam, liking your positivity. Yes AF not here so I guess I still have a chance.

Enjoy your Christmas preparations mimi. I know how u feel, just getting tired of expectations.

Glad u got 3/3 high temps beagles! Great stuff. Don't give up dtd as u never know..

Hope you're ok tee/Nim/earth Thinking of u. Xx

Jam do u have lots of Christmas parties? Are u going to drink?

Sorry tmi! Have you tried sitting on toilet legs spread like a bloke and push down a bit from your pelvic floor. If it's really high that's a good sign. It goes high when bfp.

I'll catch up in a bit. Wrapping my mountain of Christmas presents. I hate wrapping presents.

Footy I've got so many drinks things thing is I'm kind of convinced I'm barren and never going to get a BFP! Which probably isn't the right attitude. I'm trying to drink less anyway in the hope it might help aid general fertility and wellbeing. Am just going to drink slowly and take it steady!

Probably not a bad idea footy to keep going through the cycle, sorry tracking is stressing you out - can you ease of some things or do you need to for your meds?

thanks for the words of wisdom jam logically i know that but i just had a mad hormonal freaked out moment and believed google. Looking forward to and focussing on christmas is a good idea, cutting back on alcohol probably not a bad idea though if you think it might help? I used to have a couple a week and since we started trying thats down to like one a month and hoping its made a difference!

mimi cycle 18? eek you deserve a medal! Definitely get stuck into christmas shopping and have a few baileys to help it along.

Ive screwed my back up leaning over the dining table wrapping presents for 4 hours! 4 hours! and thats not even all of the buggers! i hate wrapping presents at the best of time, least of all when i am tired after work and seriously had an awful day. stopped doing opks and checking cervix, just going to temp and track symptoms this tww try and be a bit more hands off and see how i get on - plus work is so stupid at the minute i cba with anything else!

I checked again beagles, & what was there the other day was not there today. I'll try again in morning I think. Your tip position made me crack up! Lol lucky I have a lock on my toilet door!
I wrapped presents today and also strained my back which is def not good for my injuries. Sorry u had awful day.
Had to keep track of temps and opks etc.. So I know if clomid is working. Not convinced..
My temps have come down so can only think AF is coming.. Unless I get a huge spike in morning to suggest ovulation. Quite a bit of white cm almost like EWCM today.

Baileys sounds lush.. One of my fav's.
Had nice meal out but cramps are crippling me.

Jam - a Woman in the bible was barren and she conceived. Just got to have faith! Think the odd drink ok. Hard when everyone drinking around you. Stress of trying makes u fancy a drink more.

Definitely agree with stress of trying. I've got two bottles of fruili in the fridge been calling me name tonight. (And a litre of baileys ) lol.

Maybe footy it does sound like you've had a right odd one so why not ovulation now! lol that position makes me have a chuckle to myself when I'm doing it. it's the only way I've found works, I know some women do the one leg up on the bath thing but if I do that when mine is high I may as well be trying to find the Bermuda Triangle, not a chance of reaching. If it's something you want to keep tracking you'll find a rhythm. Just remember not to do it first thing in the morning though, something about laying down for a long time changes it.

I think I'm in for an awful few weeks. I work in pastoral care at a 6th form college and doing UCAS as well as everything else for over 350 kids is like trying do every circus act all at once, whilst standing on my head, upside down and balancing a bloody elephant on my toes. But deep breaths! Christmas soon!

How is everyone today?

Cervical acrobatics made me lol.

I'm 12 DPO today. Feeling a little bit crampy, trapped wind, heavy feeling. Light headed and hot too. Nothing out of the ordinary. Need to stock up on tampons I think!

Another blood test this morning then GP appointment next week to see where this fun journey goes next.

Poor u beagles. Sounds well busy place to be.

Jem it's good you are getting good care from GP and blood tests etc..
They won't give me anything now so found online testing website. Going to do some tests in Jan I think.

So the plots thickens..

Tried the cervical acrobatics..
Can't reach cervix at all!
Lots of EWCM last night, if I used the preseed I might have slipped off the bed
Cramps quite intense in night,
Hot!
Temp spiked up today
What??

So maybe not 17dpo, maybe you were right Kate maybe I just ovulated. Cd22

Think I need a drink ..

EWCM and temp spike?? Could you be having a double ovulation cycle footy? Or a BFP? That is confusing. Are you poas at all?

CD6??
Morning team,
Jam trapped wind & hotness would be an exciting observation for me. So frustrating that pmt & early pregnancy have similar signals. Keep some faith, you just never know!
Footy can't believe you're still waiting for AF/bfp, so confusing! FX it's the latter!
Beagles wow that's ALOT of pressies! I was very pleased with myself finishing off my pressie shopping yesterday, dreading wrapping though! Sooooo tedious! Hope your back is feeling better this morning? We are hosting Christmas and Boxing Day this year, haven't even thought about all the extras I usually don't have to think about; crackers, table dressings... need to get writing lists I think!

Started temping again, I'm back down to below coverline (pre ovulation range). Think I mentioned bleeding was tailing off on Tuesday, but actually it picked up again (which is good, as sonographer detected there was more to expel). Reckon I might be clear by the weekend. Took a pregnancy test Tuesday which was still very much positive, but I don't think as solid as the line had been previously. Going to take another tonight and really hope bfn. Will start opks once I get clear hpts. DH has a mad week with work next week (Christmas stuff every evening!), but I'm hoping we can get back into DTD as I have a feeling I'll ovulate not too far off normal CD! I suddenly started feeling really positive about this month, imagining it happening again before next AF.... but then again I day dreamt about this last time and it took another 7 months!! I keep thinking back to my acupuncturist telling me your body can 'learn' to miscarry once you've had one, bloody wish he never said that, it doesn't help me at all, other than to lower expectations I guess. I'm so up and down with my feelings on this, I'll probably be back tomorrow whinging that I don't think it'll ever happen ever again!! For now I'm staying in my optimistic bubble of possibilities! x

Think a good idea for u to temp tee for a bit. It's the only way I can tell what is going on in my cycle. Def think the cervix a good indicator also as u know when there's a change. Mind def has moved indicating something is happening (just don't know what)! Lol. Hoping you get you bfn this week so u can get back on it. At least you have lots of distractions over Christmas.

I feel really confused as was sooo sure I ovulated before? My boobs are absolutely killing me. On the clomid forum there are ladies who say their boobs ache terribly the whole cycle so I can't trust the boobs.
They also say the temps are sky high whilst taking the drug and whilst the follies are growing they felt like AF was coming. So can only think this is what's happened.?? Luckily I dtd yesterday and day before and every other day before that.

Going to ride it out... Enjoy Christmas and see what happens.

footy you've just described my ovulation this month. Cramping and heavy feeling and killer boobs! Then I got the strongest OPK I've ever had. Keeping fingers crossed

Hope the bloods come back good jam! It's annoying how all the signs can mean pg or AF isn't it? I'm my dhs (joking) words "think the female body needs to evolve further if it's that backwards" lol he has no idea!

footy those signs are looking like ovulation. What's your chart look like?

tee glad you're having a positive day. Try and hold on to it! But try not to get too wound up about conceiving first month i remember that disappointment it was worse than any normal month. Also your accupuncturist sounds like a knob. Who says that?!

Boobs still evil. Temps still high. Keep comparing my charts from month with bfn and month with bfp. Pointless but I'm getting obsessed with it!

I also normally only have a 10 day lp. And I have some fancy CB digi tests that can supposedly can test up to 4 days before day of period. Please talk me out of testing at 7dpo on Saturday...

Positive opk! Came up straight away!

Beagles 7dpo is very early to test. I'd wait until 9dpo earliest! :)

Go go go footy!!!

tee that thing about miscarriage is nonsense! Did you see that recent news article on miscarriage? Research has found that a successful pregnancy is more likely sooner after miscarriage

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-38144027

beagles yes the amount of times I have wished that there are clearer differences between PMS and pregnancy!

footy have you got any pregnancy tests? I would be tempted to test if I were you. Good thing you have been DTD, if it is ovulation though!

Jam, I love you! Mwah!
Footy get those chilli doritos out and knickers off!! Lucky DH
Beagles, that made me LOL, I think he was a bit of a knob. After my March miscarriage so many people told me 'oooo you'll be more fertile now' and I was totally sold on the idea that it was definitely happening immediately! I'm much more realistic this time, I think there is lots of truth behind the theory that you are particularly fertile after miscarriage (as per that wonderful article below) BUT I'm well aware it's not a given by any stretch, especially taking into account there were 7 months between my bfps. Taking each day as it comes and enjoying and wishing for a little a Christmas miracle
PS. Step away from hpts at 7dpo, it'll only result in extra agonising... agree with Footy, hold out until at least 9 if you can x