lucie thinking of you, we’re all here rooting for you and DH 
sammy I can totally relate to the jealousy, god I have such anger. I cannot believe people just have some sex and get a baby 9 months later. I feel like such a bitter and twisted old hag, but that’s what this journey has done to me.
Re: the Athens immunes, I put a load of info onto a couple of fertility friends threads, can happily send you the links to find out more
However the tests aren’t of any real use unless you’ve got a Dr who will prescribe immunes treatment. Many private Drs will prescribe immunes tx empirically - i.e. they’re happy to prescribe immunes treatment without any of the tests, if they think your history indicates you might benefit from it - e.g. previous implantation failure or miscarriage. That’s the case with the Dr treating stealth and I, and sounds like it’s the case for lucie. I only did the tests because I wanted to understand what might have caused my miscarriage - I didn’t need to, as my Dr will add immunes to the protocol anyway.
So I can happily give you some pointers about the tests, but I’d say the important bit is finding out if your Dr will prescribe immunes first - otherwise you could end up spending money on tests, but can’t actually do anything with them.
Re: the thin lining - from what you describe, it really doesn’t sound like you’re likely to have the same kind of lining issues I’ve had, so I really don’t think you need to panic.
In a natural cycle, my lining never thickened up at all. I haven’t had an actual period since May last year (when I came off the pill) - with the sole exception of after my first IVF cycle - when I got a 6mm lining, enough for something resembling an actual period. In a natural cycle I’d ovulate, and something vaguely AF-like would turn up 14 days later, but it was never a proper period. Not just light flow - no red flow at all. I never had a proper bleed - just brown spotting and some brown/black clots. My lining never got above 4-5mm - so my scanty periods made sense, if there wasn’t enough to shed, or maybe didn’t shed properly.
So it’s possible there was some old, dead lining that never got cleared out - so although the lining did eventually thicken up once we threw a boatload of oestrogen at it, maybe it was growing on crap foundations, that couldn’t sustain a pregnancy. And maybe the D&C will have been therapeutic, giving me the clear out I potentially needed.
But it’s just a guess. And one I don’t think you need to worry about, because it sounds like your lining fundamentally works, it just needs a bit more oomph to get to the optimal thickness for transfer
pikz thanks for sharing your experiences - it often seems as though everyone else has beautiful juicy lining, and I’m the only one who has lining problems. It’s such a crucial part of getting and staying pregnant, and yet it hardly seems to get a mention anywhere! I’m delighted to hear that your issues were sorted after your lap - were your adhesions ashermans?
welcome back boris - hope you had lots of hot chocolate in lieu of vin chaud!
itsme yippee, you have liftoff! Please don’t get worried about all the lining, immunes, PGS etc chat. Stuff like lining will be monitored whenever you’re scanned - it’s just mentioned a lot here because some of have particular issues with our lining. Immunes isn’t something the NHS do, and it’s not something anyone really needs to consider on a first cycle - it’s quite a controversial area within fertility, and it’s more in the ’everything on paper looks right, but why isn’t this working, is there something else going on?’ camp. Similarly PGS - again, not an NHS thing, and not a first cycle thing. So all good!
Two books I found really helpful to get my head round IVF at the start are ‘Zita West’s Guide to Fertility and Assisted Conception’ and ‘Get A Life: His & Hers Survival Guide to IVF’
Thanks to Rebecca Brenna* Trixie MPP and Stealth (apols if I’ve missed anyone off)
Thanks to you all for your support, absolute rollercoaster here. You've all been so lovely. Will post more later, right now there’s other shit going down, and don’t want to hog the thread with the latest in the never-ending banana miscarriage saga…
xxx