TTC for 10 months or more, and now we're moving onto thread 4! Ten plussers welcome!

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Thread for anyone TTC for over ten months. Please feel free to join us!

Took the liberty of starting a new thread (with what is obviously a brilliant piece of rhyme!) as I assume everyone else is sleeping peacefully right now :)

Oh my goodness bean. I am so so sorry.

Goodness Bean, I am so sorry to hear your news I wonder what could have happened, I take it the sample and eggs were good otherwise they would surely have said something yesterday. I hope you can get some answers this afternoon.

Hi Panda, I remember you from before, sorry for AF. Don't give up hope of it happening naturally though. That said, no harm in starting investigations, have you had any tests done yet?

Sammy, crossing everything for your last month ttc naturally - especially after your more substantial AF.

Had my scan this morning and have 13 follicles on one side and 12 follicles on the other so am to continue on the lower dose of stims and go back on Friday morning for another scan. Provided all looks good then EC will be on Monday.

I'm so sorry bean

Maple thank you. DD was conceived naturally the month after our IVF consultation. They said as I had low AMH they would only offer us one round of IVF instead of the three which we were initially told we'd be entitled to.

I am so sorry Bean. After all the misery of getting those eggs. I have no idea what to say.

I hope it was a one off that the morphology was that bad Dizzy. It sounds like that may be the case if you managed to concieve despite it.

We still have lovely weather up here. It makes a change to have better weather than friends down south (and Mum in France). I am making the most of the sun and topping up my Vit D as much as I can with cycles into and out of work, walks in the morning and evening etc.

Bean, I'm so sorry to hear that you must be devastated. I hate the ups and downs of this process and how the unexpected hits you out of the blue. I hope you get some answers today.

Trixie, that's a brilliant number of follicles. It looks like you will be in for a good haul again. Good luck for Monday.

Panda, sorry you have had to rejoin the thread but you are in good company here.

I went into the hospital last night for bloods** to be taken. I had to wait 2.5 hours for a 2 minute procedure. I ended up sobbing on the nurse when my turn finally came. I hate that place. They are so unorganised and I find it really hard sat there on my own for so long. I am going in for the injection this afternoon. DH can't get away from work to come so will be going it alone again and am not looking forward to it. Just hope they can get it done quickly.

You won't be alone in spirit. We will all be there with you

Bean I know we've been speaking on the phone but just sending love here too. Thinking of you for this afternoon and will speak later. Tonnes of love and hugs

lucie you are definitely not alone. We're all there with you in spirit. Much much love

That sound awful Lucie will be thinking of you this afternoon and hoping that it is over quickly xx

Oh gosh ladies you are making me feel all teary again. Thank you so much. I couldn't get through this without you all. I'm so emotional these last couple of days I'm crying at everything. Maybe it's because even though I knew weeks ago I had miscarried and it was all over and there is no baby there anymore it's like this is all so final having the injection and I can't really describe it but in a way I feel like today I will be loosing my baby even though I already have. Doesn't make sense really.

Makes perfect sense lucie. Not at all surprising that you are upset. This is horrible stuff. We are all here with you

That makes sense to me. I also really struggled with the idea that I was chosing to end it, rather than having it happen to me.

Lucie massive hugs. It sounds so hard.

Oh my goodness beanhunter, I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get some answers this afternoon. It's so unfair for this to happen after all you went through with stims and egg collection. I'm almost tearing up at how you must be feeling right now. Please be kind to yourselves over the next few days. Christ, this journey is unbelievable sometimes.

Lots of hugs to you Lucie, I can only imagine how tough this must be. You are being very strong even though it mustnt feel that way. Have as good a cry as you need as often as you need (and on anyone!)

Nice going trixie, best of luck for your scan Friday and ec Monday. Eek!

Lucie the injection sounds so tough to have to bear. Much love to you. abd big hugs.

Trixie good luck for Friday and Monday!

Brenna where abouts are you? I just got totally drenched in the south so envious of your sunshine!

Lucie just to echo everyone else, we are all thinking of you and there in spirit. I'm sure DH is worried about you too and must feel rotten he can't be there. Hugs.

I am in Dundee aka The Frozen North.

Brenna I was just a total stalker and looked up Dundee on BBC Weather. Jealous of your sun - wasn't it 27 up north recently!?

laughing at the stalking. I don't think we have made it that hot in Dundee yet but we have had plenty of sun. We always have a stiff North Sea Breeze to keep us from getting too hot. It feels like we have made it to 20 over the last few days (when out of the wind) although I haven't actually looked to see what temperature we are at. I believe friday is going to be a bit rainy up here, then back to sun on saturday again. I promise I will make full use of the sun on everyone else's behalf. I am self sacrificing like that.

Trixie I missed your update your folicles sound good.

Bean, hope your appointment went ok today and you got some answers.

I've just had my injection and am now in a bed in my own room which is slightly better than being in the awful waiting room where I have calculated I must have spent at least a good 12 hours cumulatively now. The injections were fine one in each leg I thought they might be painful but barely felt a thing a bit like stimms injections but stung for a bit afterwards. They want me to stay for an hour now. It says in the literature they gave me that I mustn't get pregnant for 2 months after I get down to zero which sounds slightly better to me although depends how long it takes to get to zero I suppose. I can't drink any alcohol either until I get to zero so no wine to drown my sorrows. I thought I would cry today once she had done it but I haven't and feel ok. I have to come back in a weeks time for them to check my hcg. I just hope it starts going down quickly. Some people need 2 doses for it to work. I don't have much luck with any of this so no doubt I will be one of those people!!

Hugs lucie.

Didn't really get answers. They can't explain it. Went through cycle and they can't pinpoint anything they would particularly change other than we would only be allowed icsi if we went again. They will send some samples of culture medium and sperm off to make sure no infection - that's their policy with failed fertilisation.

Eggs are apparently "oval" and they feel maybe look a little tired this morning. Sperm looked good when went it - they said based on numbers they would never have contemplated icsi upfront. Sperm have got through the cumulus but no evidence of binding to zp at all.

Only thoughts are that if we go again to have icsi and consider having short protocol to minimise risk of ohss and to make it a less drawn out process psychologically. They wouldn't want to go again Until at least July period.

They said they can't rule out lab failure but they didn't change any culture medium or procedures and everyone else from last 48hrs has had good fertilisation

Oh bean. How frustrating. Are they going to test the eggs too?

And what other tests should you be having?

You must be petrified. You can make babies, you've done it before! Hope the coming days bring some more answers and a sense of what to do next - I can imagine the last thing you want to do is dive into another round when they can't tell you why the first one went wrong.

Oh and lucie big hugs for getting over that. Hopefully it is your turn to be in the majority and you will go to zero soon. What a shitter of a day. Even worse when you have to hang around for so long. Xx

Bean, I'm so sorry to read your update, and that you didn't get any answers. I have been through several cycles where we didn't get to transfer(different reasons) so understand how hard it is. Hope you're being looked after?

Lucie - I'm sorry you've had a hard time too, but fx these injections do the trick and it's the end of it.

It's not a very happy place here at the moment. Thank goodness for Trixie and her follies!

Well I think I might have ovd today. Tomorrow mornings temp will tell. Going to try dtd tonight as I was away last night so missed our chance. Could still be worth it tonight if I only ovd this afternoon.
The clinic called to book in my next cycle while I was at the station. Said they'd call back at 3.30, but nothing yet. Will call them tomorrow as DH and I are going for a long weekend in the sun tomorrow evening!!! Xx

They haven't suggested anything except seeing stuff for culture. As you say we've made two babies previously. There's a 1% chance they might have fertilised quickly and be ok but they didn't sound optimistic.