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TTC for 10 months and the rest! 10 plussers welcome! Thread 3 (the one where we all get our bfps!)

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lucieloos · 25/02/2016 14:00

New thread ready for us chatty ladies! If you have been trying to conceive for over 10 months pop in and join us. We are a friendly bunch!

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lucieloos · 10/03/2016 13:21

Yay Sammy that's brilliant news! How was your lining looking and do you know what stage your blast was at?

Reprofit don't ask for HSG/hycosy Boris but Sammy is right amh is one of the other blood tests they definitely need but I think you already have that one?

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bananafish81 · 10/03/2016 13:27

Awesome news sammy

Was about to chip in on the HSG / HyCoSy front and say that my Dr didn't insist I have one before starting IVF, as the treatment for blocked tubes is to have IVF that bypasses the tubes!! That said if you've had one Mpp might as well share the results

ooh trixie not long now to go!

loopylou1984 · 10/03/2016 13:28

Thanks both. My lining had shrunk down a bit (can't remember the figures), normal after starting progesterone, but he said there was a huge blood supply to the uterus which is a great sign. I don't know what stage the blast was at. The embryologist probably did say, but I'm not really sure of the options? Xx

MPP81 · 10/03/2016 13:32

Congratulations on being PUPO Sammy!!!

Thanks for all the advice, all! The AMH is the one I didn't have, actually. Lucie, if I book that at CRGW, would that be OK? Are they weird or funny about doing tests for you if you're going abroad for IVF instead of doing it with them? Or should I ask my GP for it instead?

lucieloos · 10/03/2016 13:36

MPP, sorry I was thinking of Boris! Crgw are completely fine with doing any tests for you. They don't mind in the slightest that you are having treatment abroad. Definitely book it in there. My gp wasn't able to do that one for me. The results will take around a week from crgw. I think it costs about £75.

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lucieloos · 10/03/2016 13:38

Sammy, they normally tell you if it's hatching, expanded or normal blasto. Not that it makes much difference.

Aww Trixie won't be long until you get going now. Maybe if I do go for the fet we might even end up having a transfer together.

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MPP81 · 10/03/2016 13:40

Haha I assumed as much Lucie! Fab about CRGW! I'll give them a call this afternoon and see when they can fit me in :)

bananafish81 · 10/03/2016 13:41

Sammy the lining definitely compacts under the influence of progesterone. It loses its triple line and is usually thinner than beforehand. Perfectly normal

And amazing news about your blood flow. Kerpow!! Star

loopylou1984 · 10/03/2016 14:27

Ah, it was expanded I think! I always go in thinking I'll find out as much as possible, then forget to ask any of it! Xx

lucieloos · 10/03/2016 15:08

Ah brilliant Sammy, sounds good. Hope the 2ww goes ok for you. Rest up and relax now it's all done Smile

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BorisIsBack · 10/03/2016 15:22

Eek sammy. That's exciting. I'm due to test on Monday 21 although I'll probably test the weekend before so 18th/19th/20th. For everyone asking the tww is the slowest I've ever faced. Today I have a massive headache like I usually get a few days pre Af, AF is due saturday so im hoping this is a co-incidence.

lucieloos · 10/03/2016 18:31

Lots of testing coming up soon! Eeekkk. Really hope this is a lucky thread!

Out of interest I asked dr Sher how many blasts he would recommend having frozen at my age in order to try and get 2 babies and he has come back and said at least 4 which makes me feel a bit better that if we did go ahead with this frozen transfer of one blast and it worked 3 blasts remaining seems a fairly decent number to try and get one baby. I'm going to wait and see how things go over the next few days now before coming to any definite decisions but I am liking the idea Grin

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star1980 · 10/03/2016 20:28

Hey all
Exciting times all round!
Wow, stealth congratulations with amazing fertilisation rate I've never heard of so many. So will you wait til next cycle for transfer? Hope you're feeling ok and warding off the ohss. Just out of interest, what is your amh? I'm wondering if I'm at risk of ohss with an amh of 31? I'm not sure whether that's actually in the too high range but I'm popping metformin pills anyway...
Sammy, congratulations on being pupo!!! Now distract yourself and put out all thoughts of testing (yeah right!)
Boris, you too - congratulations!! I have my fingers tightly crossed for you both for bfps all round.
Lucie, obviously I'm hoping for a bfp for you this cycle but if no joy it sounds like a fet straight away won't diminish your bank too much. Also, I read that being pregnant kind of pauses your fertility aging so you might find your reserve won't reduce so quickly whilst pregnant as it would whilst you weren't. I mean, you're so knowledgeable you probably know that that's a load of crap, but if not perhaps less need to worry? Good luck for egg collection tmrw!
Trixie, you're so close now! Hope this cycle is nice and speedy.
Mpp, well done on getting the ball rolling. I hope wedding plans going well and keeping you a little distracted from all this shit? Sorry for the bfn. I never test - just wait for af to turn up as she inevitably does without fail.
Banana, how's everything going? Hope all is well. When's your next scan?

stealthbanana · 10/03/2016 20:48

Lots of exciting times. lucie I think it would be great to try to get #1 on board if you felt comfortable with that.

star my amh was 69. So v high (although not even close to the highest I've heard!). I always knew injectables for IUI were going to be a potential problem for me as I have always had loads of follies - thus the quick conversion to IVF as soon as my dr saw that a dominant follie wasn't emerging. Just a shame my follies are so stubborn and refuse to release any eggs under their own steam!

I think with an amh of 31 yes you will be at risk of ohss, although it depends on how many meds you take too of course. (I had v low doses for a longer time - 75iu for first 8 days for IUI, then 150iu for 3 days which grew things at an alarming pace, so backed off to 125iu for the next 11 days.)

FYI my doctor does say that in general even if you don't end up w ohss if you are growing a lot of eggs your endometrial environment is sub optimal at a fresh transfer - this is why originally he recommended FET. There is emerging research that with the new vitrification procedures FETs actually have better success rates than fresh due to the uterine environment being better. Plus of course you can do genetic screening with a FET. Doctor has put my odds of success at 85% assuming I have a genetically screened blast put back via FET - I'll take that!

star1980 · 11/03/2016 00:00

Wow, you must be happy with those odds! Thanks stealth, really helpful - I've never heard of an amh of 69! It's paid off though and fingers crossed for lots of frosties in 5 days. Still a few months til I even start my cycle so I'm just hoovering up the knowledge from you ladies in the meantime :)

lucieloos · 11/03/2016 08:28

Eeekk I'm at the hospital now and waiting in my cubicle. Please let there be something there!

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BorisIsBack · 11/03/2016 08:41

Lucie - thinking of you today and praying for eggs.

Star your cycle wil be here soon and in the mean time - knowledge is power!

stealthbanana · 11/03/2016 09:23

Best of luck lucie!

star as boris says, knowledge is power. Especially in fertility - there are so many doctors who don't seem to know even as much as the collective wisdom of this board. (I feel very grateful to have had such a fantastic doctor, it's made a huge difference for me.) You will be an expert by the time you're ready to cycle!

loopylou1984 · 11/03/2016 09:24

Hope it's gone well Lucie? Xx

bananafish81 · 11/03/2016 09:24

Good luck lucie we all have everything tightly crossed for you Thanks

loopylou1984 · 11/03/2016 09:24

Hope it's gone well Lucie? Xx

bananafish81 · 11/03/2016 09:51

And echoing the ladies on here about knowledge star - you will be great

There is no one size fits all approach so what's right for one of us won't be right for another. That's certainly def the case when you look at stealth and I - same age, same Dr, even the same drugs but different shape treatment.

Stealth: PCOS, v high ovarian reserve, high AMH, very low dose stims, short protocol to minimise risk of hyperstimulation, no fresh transfer because of high response

Me: diminished ovarian reserve, very low AMH, very high stims starting dose (although dose was then halved and halved again in line with my response), short protocol to avoid risk of over suppression given risk of poor response, fresh transfer OK from an OHSS POV but needed lining support because of thin endometrium

So whilst we can all learn from each other to be able to ask the right questions (my Dr is used to a proper grilling by me, probably thinks 'oh god, she's got the notebook out and I see a loooong bullet point list I'm going to be interrogated with Grin) we also have to remember that our treatment isn't necessarily going to look the same as someone else's - and that's a good thing!

And thanks v much indeed for asking about me v sweet of you. I'm doing OK - reassurance from Saturday's scan lasted about a day, and now bricking it about Monday's Shock! Dr recommended we have the Panorama test, one of the none invasive prenatal tests for Downs etc, it's much more accurate than the nuchal test and involves a simple blood test, which goes off to America where it's analysed for the fetal DNA circulating in my blood. Apparently you can ask to find out the sex from this, although I don't think we will, as I'm not sure I'd want to know it's a baby boy or girl so early - esp as the results will come back before the 12 week scan. They'll do a scan then too so hoping everything is OK. Sat was my first abdominal scan - felt very civilised not having to get my knickers off for dildocam!!!

I'm absolutely terrified of going into the first NHS scan - which is in the antenatal
department - and discovering MMC or severe abnormalities, and having to then come out into a waiting room full of pregnant women and babies. At least fertility clinics (and early pregnancy units, if you end up there) are away from the normal preggos! By this point if something goes wrong it's unlikely I'd be able to medically manage a miscarriage without severe discomfort (where you take pills and let the sac pass naturally ie mini labour), I'd probably have to have an ERPC. Which risks uterine adhesions which is all my crappy endometrium needs. Obv now we've see a good strong heartbeat twice, the odds of mc are low, but we're not out of the woods and the legacy of infertility doesn't leave you, so you're just mentally planning for the worst case scenario.

I do look quite obviously upduffed as I have a massive swollen tummy from progesterone enormobloat!! Friend last week took one look at my boobs and belly and busted me immediately. I had to fess up but say it was bloat not bump!!

Love to you all xxx

JustTrixie · 11/03/2016 10:00

Just popping in to say good luck Lucie (though you're probably done by now!)

MPP81 · 11/03/2016 10:46

Good luck Lucie! Hope it's gone well! :)

Star, wedding planning is coming along nicely. Less than 3 months to go now, and I can't believe how fast time is flying! I can't wait! And youre right, it is a welcome distraction from ttc! Hope you're doing OK. :)

lucieloos · 11/03/2016 11:06

Hey everyone just popping into to say it went as well as can be expected really and we have 3 eggs collected which is the same as our last few cycles. I know it will sound ridiculously low to most of you but DH and I and also the doctor are happy with this level considering the number of follicles. Just resting up in recovery now whilst they check dhs sample. Then we can go home and they will call us tomorrow to let us know how many mature and fertilised. So another step that we have got through now. They offered me either cyclogest pessaries or said that I could have gestone injections if I wanted so I have gone with the injections as I know that they are a lot more expensive and I have a big stash of pessaries in the house so I will use both Grin Happy days. We're going to get out baby!

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