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Dizzy fx you dnt ov for a few days!!

Thanks eskimo I hope so too but not sure I you can class them as positives but I've never had a second line on one of those before

Thanks nurse I will do! Probably test again tomorrow even though I should wait lol.

Boris, I'm so pleased to hear. Hope all goes well on Monday

Xxx

Another huge cheer for Boris' embryos and Sammy's linings.

I hope everyone's weekends are going well. I have spent all day with a bug. I spent 3 hours throwing up last night and slept most of the day. Shivering under a duvet. My body really knows how to celebrate the end of AF.

Aww, sorry you've been poorly Bird. Feel better soon. Yay to the end of AF though x

Kellz I definitely see a line too. Fingers crossed for you, I'll be fervently checking for an update tomorrow!

Sorry you're ill Bird..hope you feel better soon

Interesting about the food/dtd timing Dizzy goes out to buy lentils and avocados but she can keep her spinach I hope OV holds off for a bit - do you usually have shortish cycles?

Great news about your embryos Boris I'm really excited for Monday and Thursday for you and Sammy, and really really hope everything goes well for you both.

Glad you had a nice birthday Magpie. Are the side effects supposed to go away? It sounds hard-going if they'll continue indefinitely while you're on the medication.

Interesting course Nurse and hope today isn't as stressful at work for you.

Hello to everyone else

Temp has raised again, but through the night I had a bit of blood tinged cm so hoping its not AF, normally I get brown spitting on run up to AF, will test again in a bit xx

Good news about the temp rise and hopefully the bleeding was nothing Kellz or that it was implantation bleeding. Fingers crossed for when you test...

Thanks Genghis. Haven't got up yet but if it were af spotting I usually get unbearable cramps but we will see. Will let you know xx

Not pregnant and no hint of second line on digi or ic so going to leave it and wait for Af. When does your temp drop? My temp went up today but I feel like AF will arrive. There's no more pinky cm, but cm with a hint of brown so expecting AF to arrive no cramps just sharp pains in lower tummy x

Kelz - providing you temp at same time every day, 3hours solid sleep etc then you should see a temp drop the day of/a day before AF ish. Last month however mine didn't drop, and I got a shock when AF arrived. I think it was because we had got a new thicker duvet.
Was that test the one that goes in your monitor? If so I think they can sometimes show second line as they also pick up LH and this is always in your pee to some degree. I get a LH surge right before AF.
If you're still only 10dpo though then there's a chance as its a bit early to test. Keep us updated. Xx

Kellz sorry for the bfns. It's still early days, especially for a digital test.

Oh I'm so sorry Kellz I hope you're okay? Don't forget you're still testing early so hopefully AF doesn't arrive.

Just popping in to say hello to everyone.

I'm still reading and cheering you on.

boris it all sounds so promising and I've got everything crossed for you.

sammy hooray for your lining!

kellz keeping fingers crossed for you - your temps look great.

Big waves to dizzyn, dizzym, magpie.

Hello to all the newbies - I hold your stay here isn't long but the girls on here are an amazing support and so knowledgeable.

I've been having acupuncture throughout my first trimester and it's really helped with the nausea. Glad other people are finding it helps them.

Love to you all xx

Sammy I have an alarm set for 6am daily for my temping. Slept 5hrs solid before alarm. :) same duvet. So will just wait and see.

Boris thank you, I'm going to wait a few days :)

Genghis thank you, just going to wait a while.

Thanks soda glad acupuncture is helping xx

I think AF will be here by tonight, :( xx

kellz keeping fx for you, but a temp rise today sounds promising I think?! That said, for me my temp doesn't drop before af. I usually see a very gradual slight decline from 11-14 dpo but it doesn't drop back down until a few days after af. But I'm pretty sure a rise when af is due can only be good so you're not out yet.

boris and sammy, exciting times for both of you, I'm fully expecting good news in the coming weeks! This time next year there will be Mother's Day cards for you, I'm sure of it!

Hi soda! Hope you're keeping well!

bird I went through a weird phase for a few moths where I used to get a migraine and vomiting on the last day of af. Really strange. Obviously all hormone related but our bodies do odd things sometimes.

dizzym hopefully ov will hold out for a while longer for you.

I saw a further temp rise yesterday morning so I'm confident I ov'd last week, hopefully on cd20. We dtd on the day but we did the day before and after which is a big improvement on last month where we missed out completely! I'm also happy as that will make this cycle 35 days long which means next cycle comes sooner. Not sure what today's temp would have been, I only finished work at 5am (4hours late) so woke up very late.

*that should have read that we didn't dtd on cd20.....

Bird sorry you're feeling unwell. Hope it buggers off soon.

Ghengis my cycles are between 27 and 31 days. I just looked back at FF and I used to ov on cd13. The month I got my bfp I ov'd on cd18. The last 3 months it's been cd12. Just hoping it's not an issue. I did mention it to my acupuncturist and she said it's not a problem. I really like spinach not too fussed about avocados!

Kellz as others have said digis and IC's aren't that sensitive. Fx AF stays away.

Dizzy looks like you got your timing right. Fx for you.

Hope you're doing well soda.

I'm off to do an opk now!

Kellz that all sounds pretty confusing for you! You're not out until AF though, so still keeping my fx for you!

Borris big day tomorrow! Wishing all the best, I'll be thinking of you

Rosie I hope the rest of your weekend hasn't been too stressful. Glad to hear your DH is looking after you.

Bird hope you're feeling better today, that sounds pretty miserable. At least AF is over!

Genghis I've read the side effects do improve and they had been getting better until the dose went up. Slowly starting to improve again though. Hope you're having a good weekend!

Soda good to see you! Glad to hear acupuncture is helping with the nausea, hope you're keeping well.

DizzyN yay for ov! Sounds like great timing too, fx for you. Hope you're getting some relaxation in after that epic shift at work.

DizzyM I'm not an expert, but I wouldn't have thought ov moving around by a few days would effect your chances as long as your LP is okay. It just makes it harder to time.

I started doing OPKs again. I've heard they're not as accurate if you've got PCOS as it increases LH. Although even though my blood test showed it was high, I never seem to get positives OPKs. I ran out of cheapies and asked DHs to pick some up and he got the clearblue digi OPKs. I didn't get a smiley today but I did find a few cheapies that I stopped using as I never even got a faint line on them. I tried one and got a fainter than the control (but still there) second line for the first time ever. I don't know if that means anything but it gave me some hope. I've been worrying that metformin is my only chance as even though the gynaecologist talked about clomid and it worked for having DS, it didn't work when I (and I know it was naughty!) tried using the ones I had left over (from when we were TTC DS) last year. What if I made myself resistant to clomid? Does anyone else swing wildly from feeling a bit hopeful to feeling like it's just never going to happen?
Sorry for the lengthy post again!

This is postive right? Please someone put me out of my misery and tell me I can conceive if I ovulate on cd12

Sorry that was self indulgent magpie and I missed your post. Keeping going with the IC's and hopefully the line will get darker. I found the CB ones very temperamental and would get no smiley to flashing at random times to a static and I didn't tally with the IC's so I've just stuck to these. As far as I know you can't build resistance to clomid as I know people who have used them twice with success. I also go through phases of being really positive to thinking I've got no chance but I'm not giving up. Keep going you'll get there I promise.

Dizzym that's possitive abd yes you can conceive of you ovulate this early. Go, dtd. I ovulate on cd 11/12, my consultant said it wasn't my early ovulation that's stopping us conceive probably DHs crap spermies but he doesn't want to admit that

Hi soda! And thanks. Lovely to hear from you.

DizzyM thank you lovely! Yes that looks like a positive OPK, get DTD, I can't think of a reason that you couldn't conceive from ov on CD12. Good luck! I agree about the digi OPKs. I tried them when TTC DS and they drove me mad, DH said they were the only ones the supermarket had.

Thanks boris and magpie. Your consultants words are reassuring. We dtd last night and will do tonight too. I think supermarkets only have CB as I've never seen the cheapies there.

I buy my ics from Amazon. Nice and cheap so I can feed my peeing habit.

Hi everyone. Few new names. Dropping in again for an update.

Stats update

BabyBumpHopeful, TTC# 1, Cycle 13, BFP due April 5

I saw my official fertility doctor for the first time on Tuesday last week (instead of my OBGyn. They ordered tests for rubella immunity, hbA1c and progesterone (CD27). Based on previous test results for fasting insulin she determined I'm slightly insulin resistant so put me on Metformin. I started with 500mg on Wednesday and I go up to 1000mg this coming Wednesday and then up again to 1500mg the Wednesday following and continuing at that amount. I have a follow-up in June.

The metformin triggered AF a day or so early so it was perfect timed to start this new cycle.

The doctor also gave me the forms for a HSG ultrasound and DH's semenalysis. We're holding off on those until April or May though to give the metformin time to work in case we don't need those tests (and thus waste that money).

I received the results of the blood work and I'm immune to rubella, hbA1c was 5.5 and progesterone was 5ng/mL (15nmol/L in the UK). I was just over their threshold for having had ovulated.

On talking to Purdie though, 15 is low for UK numbers so I did some research into the progesterone levels and found this article: www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0100-879X2004001100007 that says:

"The study further demonstrated a significant enhancement in luteal progesterone concentration... in PCOS women treated with metformin. The results suggest that hyperinsulinemia/insulin resistance may be responsible for low progesterone levels during the luteal phase in PCOS. The luteal progesterone level may be enhanced in PCOS by decreasing insulin secretion with metformin."

Basically, they found that insulin resistance and low progesterone levels go hand in hand and that metformin helped raise progesterone levels by lowering insulin resistance. Which explains why they're not worried about treating the progesterone levels yet because they want to see what the metformin does for me.

I've read some positive stuff about metformin and I'm on a low(ish) carb diet. I haven't made an total switch but I'm trying to make better carb choices. It's hard on the weekend as work is far more structured but I'm trying! It's been 3 days so I'm cutting myself a little slack :)

Good luck to all of you :)