Pom Poms, Placards and Picket Lines. The Berries are putting up the barricades and will not be crossed! A delightful bunch of 30 something Ladybros TTC #1.

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The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!

Current Ladybros:

Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.



Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!



Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.



Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.



barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 



Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 



Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.




Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 



Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.

Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.



Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.



Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.



The Roll of honour:

Pip - Quite simply the Best In Show.
Lumen - The Legend that is....

I think sparkles and tassels are a given, no....? beaky? Poss also some flesh coloured panels with little paw prints...? Mind you I think barking has a stripy one, although hers is just for special occasions....

Ooh easter week is definitely the one with all the bfps! It's about time for a berry clusterdiff!

barking good luck for ec! Pompoms are at the ready!

happy nearly there! You can do it!

tiger hope you're finding some distraction and today was one of the positive days? I'm wondering if wee t-dog will get to wear some doggy accessories to match the bridesmaids?

clem try to stay away from Google! I think my favourite pg symptom is the one where you don't feel any symptoms at all!

beaky Thanks! What are you doing the now? Still with the down time? ?

First scan in the morning! Eek, here we go again. Hope there's follies this time!

Evening all!

Amazing leotard beaky I'm feeling ok thanks, nothing out of the ordinary really and just getting very nervous and fretting about when to test. How are you?

Oodles of luck for the scan tomorrow sesame. Hoping for lots of follie action. T-dog has a new leather collar and lead on its way, specially ordered for the wedding! Have been too nervous to say the word clusterdiff, but here's hoping anyway.

clem glad you're getting on ok. There's nowhere to hide from your own body though, that's the challenge. I am finding this 2ww slightly easier than my first cycle - I think that I managing to think of other things at least some of the time! Still bloody hard though. Wedding planning is a good distraction. You were right with the 28th. My OTD is crazy - a day later than yours despite EC being a few days before. I have decided I'm will probably test on Sunday as I need to start getting my head around the result. I'll be 7dpt5dt by then.

Good luck tomorrow barking and be sure to let us know how you get on!

Almost Friday happy, I can smell the wine!

forty how are you? Not seen you for a while, hope you're doing ok.

Am a bit envious of Mr T going off on a weekend of debauchery with his mates. Now his bit is done, he can just detach and have fun! I bet he won't think about it once whilst he is away!

tiger glad you are finding things to distract yourself with...I need to focus on my degree from next week, so hoping that will help distract me too.

remind me, how do I work out what my stats are for this "7dpt5dt" - this was yours.

It's the number of days past transfer clem plus the day on which you had the transfer - so I think if you had the transfer on Mon then today you wil be 4dp3dt - making you around the equivalent of 7 days post ovulation.

Forgot to say bon voyage to smidge! Hope the journey goes well.

Awake bloody early, annoying.

tiger I'm laughing at the thought of T dog walking in with her blanket still over her!
I walked down the aisle with my dog I got him a new collar and lead that matched my shoes definitely no crazy dog ladies round here
DH said when we moved into this house the dog was staying downstairs, no more dogs in bedrooms. He said this repeatedly. I said nothing. It took the dog approximately 10 minutes of walking into the house to be let upstairs sucker.

Clem whoop! Another PUPO!!!

sesame no stripy leotard, but I am wearing a very 80's stripy onesy right now Good luck for your scan.

happy nearly there!!!!

Posted too soon, meant to say happy travelling to smidge!!!! [Grin]

Ooo Sunday Tiger, I'll be refreshing like a mad thing! Everything crossed. I bet Mr T thinks about it more that you think. Mr B occasionally comes out with a comment where I know he has but I wouldn't know otherwise.

barking good luck for ec!

sesame good luck for your scan.

tiger thanks, aw t-dog will be a wee star. Will also be refreshing like mad on Sunday to see how you get on. Everything is crossed for you.

clem what tiger said, 7dp5dt stands for 7 days past 5 day transfer. Add the 7 and the 5 to get the equivalent of 12dpo - days post ovulation.

barking love the onesie! Best of luck, I'm thinking of you today and will be refreshing like mad later

beaky thanks.

Dildocam today showed I do have a follie this time. It's already 11mm and I'm back in on Sunday. My lining is still only 2mm though - so I might need some sort of womble thickening dance.... leotards anyone...?

5 eggs. I cried and whimpered and sucked the gas and air all the way through. Left my dignity well and truly behind. Fucking painful again, and awake throughout again. Only just managed to stop crying after they lay me down under a blanket and gave me hot chocolate and biscuits. Quite upset that the pain was even worse than last time but they got only 5 eggs when last time we got 9.
Embryologist has been in, not said anything different really. She advices 1 if we have it, I want two given our history of 3 mc, failure last time, and two perishing or damaged from the freezer. But we'll see what we get and have available.

Hurrah barking 5 is a good number. Fingers crossed for great fertilisation. DJ sesame on the decks is what we need! You are hard as doing that under sedation. Really hope you feel better soon and get some rest.

Womble thickening dance happening over here sesame!

I am feeling a little bit worried. I FINALLY got a call back from the clinic, three days after I first rang up about my rash, and two days of chasing my FBC and progesterone results. Annoyingly it was only from the admin person and not a clinician, so it was difficult to ask any questions. Apparently my white blood cell count is high and they want me to repeat the test on Monday so that they can monitor it. I asked them if they had expressed any views on the rash occurring after transfer, but she had't discussed this with them. FFS. They are impossible to get hold of, and it is not at all reassuring that they don't respond.

Now hugely paranoid that my immune system is playing up in response to the transfer. . Getting an almost immediate rash and then increased white blood count doesn't look promising....

Suddenly my weekend at home is looking long and lonely - regretting not making plans to distract me from all of this. #hatethisshit

barking I'm currently blaring out Barry and the Spice girls from the sesame turntable. Come on eggs!!! Sorry to hear how bad your ec was, is there any reason for not doing ec under sedation? I do totally get why you want to put two back if you get the chance, I think I would probably want to do the same in your position. Everything is crossed for you.

tiger, I hate being in that situation when you just can't get through to speak to someone in the fc. The first 2 places I went to had excellent nurse teams that always got back to you straight away. But my new fc is impossible to deal with over the phone for important stuff. I actually now resort to using their out of hours number in order to get advice that same day, and it works. Don't really have anything much to say about the rash, but when I got my bfp, I did get flu type symptoms right around the time of implantation, so could rash/wbc thing be a sign perhaps?

Tiger, have a paw hold from me. What meds are you on now? Hopefully the rash means nothing, but I share your frustration at not being able to get to talk to anyone/answers. I am keeping my little fingers toes and legs (for the time being) crossed for you Tell us about your wedding prep, what will you do with your hair and make up?

Sesame excellent news on the little follie there, fx for you. I hope you get to your next scan ok.

Barking hopefully you're feeling ok now, fx for Barry and the spice girls to do their work now and I have a lovely sparkly leotard on with shamrocks all over, I felt it was good luck for you all.

Smidge are you here yet?!

Clem how are you feeling?

My old fc rang today in response to a question Id asked two weeks ago. They won't prescribe anything additional i.e. Clexane/prednisolone etc without full tests to show its needed and they wouldn't offer treatment unless on the exact same protocol as before. In fact she actually said the consultant wouldn't treat me privately. I still haven't had any donor egg stuff from them 4 weeks on and have asked now about 4 times. So they aren't getting any of my cash. wish we had the v's emoji on here anyway I know they aren't best for me so I need to crack on with someone else. That's my rant over! Off to drink wine....

Thanks and to you beaky. I'd love a glass or two! I settled for a hot milk and cracking into my easter chocolate a little bit early!

It sounds like your previous clinic isn't going to be the best one for you, given that they won't try anything different, and aren't that responsive. It's a tough decision to make, though and it's ok to take your time over it.

Wedding stuff eh...I could bore you for hours! I have had a hair trial. Here's the back of my head, plus I've got a pearl flower thing to weave into it. My best mate is luckily a very skilled make up artist, so we're off make up shopping on Tuesday to finalise the choices! 3 weeks tomorrow!

I am feeling a bit less anxious about the rash now, thanks sesame. Could mean anything. Same with the white blood count - apparently it can be an indicator of OHSS and they did say that my ovaries were still very large at ET. Anyway, no point in worrying and they did say someone clinical will call me tomorrow so I can ask questions. Had a small nosebleed this evening too. Lovely.

Love the hair Tiger and 3 weeks so excited for you! Hot milk and Easter chocolate sound pretty good tbf! Do you have much left to sort out now? I can't wait to see a couple of pics of the big day!

I want to try and do a cycle before starting this new job, but I'm not sure if that will work. Especially with the indecisiveness

Went to the loo this morning and there was bright red blood. Fuck it.

tiger just jumping in quickly as if you've had a nosebleed that might be a symptom of the blood thinners you're taking - that's what my fc told me to look out for when they prescribed them - call your fc as they might suggest to lower your dose. Also I guess if you've got an implantation bleed then the thinners might make them look a little dramatic. 11dpo is perfect timing for implantation bleeding. Sorry for all the mind fuckery. Do you still plan to test tomorrow?

Thanks sesame. Someone is supposed to be calling me today from the FC as they haven't got back to me about my rash, or explained the white blood cell count concerns, so I will mention it then. The blood has gone again, it was only there with when I went to the loo the first time this morning, second wipe was brownish and then nothing the other couple of times I've been. I know my progesterone levels are 'good' as they've had the initial results back, so I would have hoped not to start bleeding this early. I'm not hopeful that it is implantation. I guess I'll test tomorrow anyway to start gearing up for the inevitable bad news.

beaky that's so shit, definitely ditch them and move on.

sesame I can only assume it's a cost thing, the consultant said to me beforehand that '90% of women can deal with the pain' which seemed a very strange thing to say.

tiger LOVE the hair! Hope you can keep yourself suitably busy until Mr T is back, it's all so bloody stressful.
When is your hen do?

Wonder if Smidge is in the country yet??

I've got three embryos. Transfer already booked for Monday so they're clearly not expecting to have all three to choose from. Trying not to stress, but this time last year we had seven embryos, and were left with three, if we have the same attrition rate then we'd be lucky to have one left on Monday.

I'm here!! Arrived this morning (same time zone now, hurrah! and have tried to keep busy all day to stay awake. MrSmidge has been struggling since about 2pm so I finally let him go to bed at 8:30. (He'll still wake up in the middle of the night but hopefully will be closer to GMT than if he'd gone to bed 6hours ago ). I'm having a bath and catching up on BerryCentral to try to make it to 9:30.

Tiger I'm so sorry about the blood. FX it is just the blood thinners. I've been trying to ignore knickers and wipe-watch, but now the move has happened, I'm struggling to keep up the pretence. I just had a look at my notes from last FET and despite being too busy to think about it, have just discovered I'm no further along than last time, much to my disappointment. I was hoping to discover I was already 8 days post transfer or something. But no. Feeling very bloated tonight and am refusing to acknowledge any darker colouring to the Crinone remnants. Boobs are definitely as small as usual.

My OTD is the 25th, and my transfer was a couple of days after yours wasn't it? I'll test before then I'm sure - def won't be able to hold out for another 6 days.

Beaky that FC sound rubbish at communication. Would properly piss me off.

Barking I can't believe you managing without being under sedation! #berry-power
Well done on the 3 embryos. And we'll have none of the concern from you young lady - a wise berry has been heard to announce IOTO!

Clem good luck. How are you feeling?

I'm on the phone so apols for missing out everyone else. Head is nodding and a bit worried I might drop the phone into the bath if I don't post now.

Aww Tiger sorry I haven't been on, but I am hoping the bit of blood was a positive and as sesame says it could be blood thinners.

Sesame good luck for your scan tomorrow.

Smidge welcome!!! Eep. Fx firmly for you also. Gosh someone has to get the win soon, it's been dire up to now.

Barking fx for your 3, I hope you manage to enjoy some of your weekend.

Clem how are you doing?

Happy how are you?

Hope everyone else is ok. I'm def sacking off old fc. Hoping to do a cycle next cycle which is before I start the new job, then I can look at donor egg after that when I've been in post for a little while. Pft so much to think about eh.

beaky love the sparkly ! Sorry your old fc can’t help you anymore. Goodbye [v emoji] to them. If you’re keen to get going again on your next cycle, would you go with cz or would you try a consult in one of the other places you were considering?

tiger the hair! I’ve just had my hot milk with oreos dipped in, followed by a treat bag of maltesers. I’m staying away from home and just can’t stop myself. I can’t get away with blaming the stabbing for my weight gain any more, as I’ve only had my first dose of meds this evening. I’m really sorry about all the mind fuckery. Good luck for tomorrow!

barking, I’m willing those embies on and getting the playlist out. I previously asked a couple of consultants and a bunch of nurses about whether they’d let me do ec without sedation - as I wanted to be allowed to go home unescorted. One of the docs actually got quite angry and said he would refuse to do it as he thought it was just too risky. The other said sedation is his clinical advice, cos he doesn’t want a patient leaping off the table at the very moment he aspirates a follicle. And that’s in my current fc, where they charge you a sedation fee – which is a load of crap really when it’s definitely not an optional extra. Everything crossed for you for some good news on Monday!

smidge hooray for your arrival in the northern hemisphere! Hope you made it to bed ok and you didn’t drop your phone in the bath! Getting out all the DJ sesame tracks to help that embie burrow in, starting with some Kylie…

I was on the phone to my fc earlier trying to sort my scan appointment for tomorrow. They booked me into a time slot that didn’t exist and couldn’t figure out what doctor would be working where. The place is a complete shambles and I hate having to deal with them. I am still absolutely hoping that the clinical side does all hang together enough to get the treatment I want. But it does all make life so bloody difficult.

smidge! I'm excited that you're back, not that it actually makes a difference in Berry HQ but it's lovely to think of you back in blightly anyway. Fingers crossed for your FET. The 2ww goes so slowly. My test date is just bizarre - 21 days after EC. My heart sinks at the thought of pointlessly continuing all these drugs. I am not sure when to test, and I'm away from Mon-Thu anyway.

beaky that's one decision made! Have you decided where to go for the next cycle? Is Czech still an option?

If it makes you feel any better sesame, I have eaten a whole bar of Lindt mint chocolate. I felt so worried today that I didn't really eat breakfast or lunch, just chocolate. Being healthy seems to have done naff all. I HATE that health care admin is so bad. Why can't they get it right?! I hope it works out so that you can do what you need to.

I am keeping everything crossed for you barking. Hen do is two weeks time, just an afternoon tea was hoping to be pregnant and not drinking but perhaps I'll have to just get smashed instead.

I am without hope now. Everything feels wrong, and I can't see myself being proved wrong or being one of those amazing stories that has a surprise happy ending. I have the same sharp back pain I had after my last cycle plus more bleeding. I don't even know if I'll bother to test tomorrow. Ugh, it's too much to bear. Thanks for helping me through.

tiger thinking of you this morning.

sesame hope you get seen earlier for your scan.

smidge nice to have you in the same time zone!!! . I definitely did not do ec without heavy sedation by choice. The same consultant who said he hadn't gone through every follicle because I was in pain told me that I should have said it hurt last time and he would have given me more drugs. Wtf?!?! Is this some sadistic Yorkshire thing? No one else I speak to seems to have had the same experience and this is my second clinic now!!!!

Morning Ladybros.
Tiger how are things this morning? Been thinking of you
Smidge great to have you here. Think we definitely need a Berry meet up now.
Barking you are the only person I've ever heard of to have EC without sedation. It's bonkers! For my private cycles I was completely out of it - woke back up in my room. I've slightly more recollection of my NHS ECs and being taken back to the ward in a wheelchair but it's all very sketchy and I certainly couldn't feel anything. The ladies of Yorkshire must be really hardcore if 90% feel no pain without sedation
Beaky glad to hear you've given your old FC the elbow. Are you still planning on going out to Czech?
Sesame I hope you manage to get things sorted with your scan.
Clem how are things with you?
As for me I'm finally freeeeeee! In a hideous surname mix up I got observed twice Only 30% of staff are observed at all and even then it's only once. But no, not me. Bloody typical!!
Having a scratch first thing tomorrow in preparation for the FET (it'll be cd21. I thought it had to be done pre OV?). I then start the Progynova next weekend when AF shows up. All being well at the scan on April 11th they'll pop the Frosties back that week. I'm also planning an Intralipid infusion privately. Does anyone know when that should be timed? I'm sure Lucie had it done at the same FC and said it needs to be 10 days before ET but when I rang up they said they'll probably do it once I've had my scan which will hopefully only be a few days before