Pom Poms, Placards and Picket Lines. The Berries are putting up the barricades and will not be crossed! A delightful bunch of 30 something Ladybros TTC #1.

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The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!

Current Ladybros:

Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.



Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!



Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.



Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.



barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 



Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 



Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.




Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 



Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.

Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.



Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.



Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.



The Roll of honour:

Pip - Quite simply the Best In Show.
Lumen - The Legend that is....

I agree with the others barking - an hour or two either side won't matter, and no probs with doing it at your seat if not. I did mine at my desk a few times at work (admittedly in a rather sparsely occupied office, but open plan nonetheless). Felt a lot more hygienic than the loos!

Forty I'm so sorry it was a BFN. Impressed you are looking at the positives and moving forward, but don't beat yourself up if you collapse in a mess at some point later. Sometimes the unfairness of it all hits when you least expect it like when you can't open a jar and a wave of 'I can't do anything' comes all over you

Tiger hope the dinner helps you feel better. If it's side effects there should be no problem in continuing to eat. Though not sure how you can tell if it's side effects or a tummy bug tbh!

regarding the Pred and Clexane, I was told only to start on the Clexane after EC. However, the predisolone I had to start taking much earlier - starting off on a lower dose, then gradually increasing over time. after the BFN I think had to slowly wean myself off it again too.

Whoever asked how I'm feeling about my upcoming FET, I think I am thinking the whole thing is pointless really. Perhaps this is when you begin to give up and consider life without children. . I'm sick of getting my hopes up and all this faff. I'm going to tell AliG to go ahead with the transfer whether or not my hormones are playing ball (otherwise I wasted a round of EC!!). It's pretty tight for whether the timing will work before I go to England though - might end up having the transfer then heading straight to the airport from the clinic . I shan't be telling her though. I don't want her to find another excuse to put it off. I need to just do this and draw a line under it.

It'll feel different this time though I'm sure, as she's agreed to two doses of HCG to help kick start my body. So for all my current failure expectations, I suspect I will end up with huge hope and a devastating come back down to earth.

Grin I didn't realise your clinic was so far away from your home town! Glad you can combine it with uni.

Morning Ladybros. I can't even remember the last time I posted on here . This week has been a hideous blur of the usual teaching shite plus Inspection prep, report writing and parents evening,with 2 migraines thrown in for good measure. I've also had 3 pg announcements, a birth announcement and a woman who came to see me in parents evening holding a 3 week old who she then rested on the table right under my nose . Had a lovely night out at the rugby yesterday and consumed a few too many so not all bad!
Hope everyone is hanging on in there. I've read back as far as I can in my phone in an attempt to catch up.
Forty I'm so sorry about the BFN . It really is beyond cruel. Hope you're being kind to yourselves - lots of treats.
Tiger I hope you're feeling better soon. I wasn't ill as such but the first time I took Gonal F it killed my appetite and had me waking in the middle of the night. The second time I used it I was absolutely fine so I guess drugs can have different effects on us at different times.
Grin I love "a bit of crazy is what we need". I think it's what every Berry could do with!!
Beaky glad your WTF appointment went well. Why were they particularly recommending DE in Spain/Cyprus? Would you not consider it at your Czech clinic?
Barking praying that Sesame's barricade works and that you get the house shit sorted soon. Extra stress is not what you need.
Hope everyone else is ok. I've probably forgotten something vital through my hungover haze but I'll pop back later if so.
As for me my wtf appointment that should have been this Monday had been moved to March 8th . Not a massive delay but looking less likely that we'll be able to get the FET done next cycle given that AF is due any second. I think we're away then the cycle after so it's all a big pile of bollox really!!
In other news we've booked to go out to Czech in early May for an initial consultation with a view to DE in the summer. Whilst we are there DH will leave a sample for freezing so that if/when we decide to proceed we'll only need a very brief trip there for ET.
Phew, think I'll go back to sleep for a bit after all that. Not feeling to grand! Have a top weekend all!

happy sounds like you deserve a good weekend, starting with a lie in!

Forty so sorry about the bfn

Smidge/Tiger I can't do it. It's an ocd thing. I have to inject at 6pm. crazy warning

I had a four train journey home last night, I managed to get off one train at 5.56, run to the toilet on the platform, inject at 6.00 and get on the next train which departed at 6.05 #berryskills

tiger how are you feeling today? I've been feeling a bit urgh. Bit of a dodgy tummy, bit of nausea, waking up at 4am and not getting back to sleep, waking with hot flushes and generally just feeling really weird. I reckon the buserelin doesn't agree with me.

sesame can you work the barricade a little harder? Buyers gave ultimatum of 11th. End of chain came back and said they might be able to do 16th. Right slap bag around predicted ec. Bloody marvellous.

Another birth announcement . That's the second this week along with the 3 pg announcements. FFS. Why do these things always come together!!!

Urgh happy, sometimes it feels like the whole bloody world is popping out a sprog. Hope you have a nice relaxing weekend and are feeling a bit better. It's so frustrating when dates don't line up, especially when it is the clinic canceling, but it sounds like you've got a good plan together for the next steps.

smidge I really hope the timings work for you. It's such a rollercoaster of hope and disappointment, fingers crossed for your FET. Will you continue treatment in England?

barking I am feeling better thanks, in that the nausea and upset has gone but I had a mini melt down earlier. So much for feeling ordered, I feel like everything is going to shit!

The FC called, following this morning's bloods they want to increase my Merional to 450 (6 vials a pop) but of course I only brought a 10 box back with me, so don't have enough for a Sunday night. My already shortened weekend at home now reduced to one night. So bloody fucked off. Why didn't I pack more just in case???!! Idiot. Also concerned that they think I need such a whopping great dose - I must not be responding as well as they had hoped. Just feeling a bit gutted and struggling with the thought of an extra night away from home when I'm already having to do more than usual because of the frequency of appointments. Sigh.

Tiger did they not explain why they were increasing the dose? Just remember it's only for a little while and soon hopefully you'll have your win and will be able to put all this behind you. When are you in next? Could MrT pop down for a couple of days to stay with you? sorry you're having such a hard time.

Barking you're kidding right, that's so stupid. Grrrrr to your chain and I have my 'down with that sort of thing' and 'careful now' placards ready at the berricade. Hats off to you with that injecting, def amazing #berryskillz

Happy what a crappy week, I hope you have a lovely chilled weekend with wine choc etc Pleased your able to move forward with the de plan even though you've got the fet to go yet. Which clinic did you decide to go with? My fc have recommended two clinics rather than countries, because they have been checked and have really good standards and check their donors really thoroughly etc. I think they were getting so many people going abroad that they thought it was sensible to check. I don't mind so much myself but dh is quite keen on the one in Spain.

Smidge best of luck for this round, I hope it is your little miracle. The hcg will no doubt be head fuck. What are your plans for when you get to the UK?

Sesame hope you are doing ok on your wait.

What are people's opinions on taking clexane and prednisone when you don't have any identified issues? I'm trying to decide whether to stay at my current clinic for the last oe round or whether to go with the new one and just not sure what to do. Any berry advice gratefully received!

I was too busy panicking beaky to ask them and they didn't say why. I had LH and estradiol bloods today, which must have indicated an increase was required.

I'm not sure about the clexane and pred. Would your clinic here prescribe empirically? What are you swaying towards at the moment? Is there a big difference in price and protocol between the two clinics?

beaky what's the choice? Clexane and prednisolone at new clinic or same protocol again at current?
Clexane and prednisolone is a common protocol for rmc, usually after nk cells are diagnosed but sometimes empirically.
With the clexane there's something about thinning the blood to help implantation.

tiger it must really suck to have to leave early just for drugs. All the jabbing nonsense will be done soon. When is your next scan?

I'm just really wondering if there are negative side effects if you take them and don't need them. I saw they are taken for rmc and rif as well barking, thanks. I think new clinic has prescribed them due to rif. I am wanting to stay with the current clinic really but they aren't offering anything different and nc are offering a slightly different stims protocol too. There's only about £900 difference in price once everything is taken into consideration.

tiger how are you feeling today? It's good that they are monitoring you so closely, nothing like your last clinic is it. Sorry it's so stressful though.

What's rif beaky? If there are increased risks/side effects they must be outweighed by the benefits, otherwise they wouldn't prescribe them. Or perhaps I'm being naive?! I don't have any experience with either to really offer much help.

I'm doing ok. On the Sunday night train to the big smoke. Was hard to leave but on the plus side at least I won't have get up at 5am tomorrow. This is also my last full week away! Whatever was wrong with me must have been a bug rather than the meds, as I feel fine on 450 after increasing the dose last night. More bloods and a scan tomorrow so hopefully get some more insight into what's going on.

Hope everyone else has had a good weekend?

tiger rif = recurrent implantation failure.
Not getting up at 5am is definitely a bonus. I'm feeling really rough on the buserelin.

beaky there's a lot to be said for convenience and familiarity if that's what your current clinic offers. Did you ask about doing anything different at your wtf appointment? Sorry, can't remember what you said.

beaky I don't think there are any bad side effects of Clexane to worry about. However, pred does carry side effects and I wouldn't want to take it without the doctor's agreement/knowledge. AliG has told me not to take it because there isn't enough evidence in my NK test results that it will impact anything, and she therefore sees the risk of side effects as outweighing any unlikely benefit. When I was on it (before new studies were carried out which didn't link my particular type of elevated NK cells to implantation failure) she was still very particular about weaning myself on and off it, and giving me lots of pamphlets about the side effects. She also insisted on me taking 5mg folic acid every day (and before and beyond) which is only available on prescription in the UK. (I think the usual over the counter dosage is 0.4). This was to help reduce the risk of cleft palate which the perd is known to increase.

Anyway, my vote is no probs taking Clexane, but only take the pred under your FC's direction.

Happy good to see you

Tiger I think MrT needs to come back with you for a couple of days.

As for me, I don't think we will carry on in England. The good thing I'm hoping for there is that I will have heaps of family and friends and maybe a decen job again (plus weekends away and holidays) so I won't notice the lack of children in my future

Tiger good luck for your scan! Let us know how you get on. Hope you're feeling ok today too, and hooray to the last full work week too!

Barking hows dr going and any news on the move? When are you in for your first scan? Yes to the familiarity/convenience factor. They haven't said if they would do anything different, think I'm going to have to ring and ask.

Smidge would you not try via the NHS over here for further treatment? I'm not sure what the rules would be since you've had treatment in another country. I'm totally with you on the future without kids. It's a difficult scenario to think about never mind accept. Would you consider de or adoption?

Thanks for the advice berries, I'm just going to have to ask the consultant at the local clinic about the drugs and see what they say.

tiger hope you are feeling a bit better now? Sorry you had to cut short your time at home. How did you get on at your scan today?

smidge what does timing look like for transfer this month? When do you need to go in for your first appointment? Sounds like you’ve been doing a lot of thinking about what happens next, good for you.

happy sorry about all the pg and birth announcements. #hatethisshit Sorry about the delay to your wtf. Is there any way you can convince them to book you in for a FET before the appointment? I’m impressed with your arrangements with Czech by the way.

barking I’m impressed with your #berryskills, I don’t think I’d even be able to rummage for change for the loo in that timeframe. Hope you feel better, when do you start stims?

beaky I took clexane and prednisolone on a prophylactic basis on my last cycle. Clexane was from night of ec, up to otd, continuing to 12 weeks if bfp. Doc put me on 40mg cos of my bmi, but otherwise the dose would have been 20mg. I’m with smidge, I don’t think it’s particularly harmful in this kind of dose. I asked about risk of bruising/bleeding and was told if I did experience bleeding, e.g. nose bleeds, I would then stop and the drug should clear from my system pretty quick. Pred is a steroid which does have nasty side effects if you take it long term. But I only took it for 2 weeks, from day of et, up to otd (20mg for first 4 days, then 10mg per day) – you don’t continue in pg – so given this is time limited and I am desperate, I thought it was still worth a try. Also at follow up, the doc told me that other clinics do prescribe both to patients earlier in a cycle – so I don’t think what your fc is suggesting is particularly unusual.

Afternoon Berries hope we are all soldiering through today.

Tiger, Glad that the sickness was not a side affect of the drugs. (not glad you were sick though) and glad you are feeling better. Hope you enjoyed your lay in this morning (looking on the brightside of the cut short weekend) I had the same dose of Merional as you and most of the ladies in the clinic with me are on similar doeses perhaps its not as effective as Menpur ?

Happy, Urgh the announcements, Sorry you're having to go through hearing them. Good News regarding the cycle in Czech being arranged. Rubbish news that your WTF appointment is being messed around.

Grin wow thats a massive distance from home to clinic. Thank godness they do Skype appointments. !!

Barking, Wow good effort managing a trip to the loo before jumping on the train. I sense a new event in the making Most awkward place to have to stab. #BerryOlympics.

Beaky, Hope you're getting on OK with the new clinic.

Sesame, Hope you're doing ok and finding things to occupy you in your wait for treatment start.

As for me, I've spent all weekend with the most horrific period pains and really heavy period but this morning they both seem to have subsided a bit so I took myself out for a run and managed to get all of my housework done too hooray and spent an hour or two having a cuddle from FortyCat. I got a call from the job this morning and they've offered me the position. I'm so pleased, I've obviously taken it no idea when my WTF appointment will be but hopefully it'll be reasonably soon after the blood test results on Wednesday.

Wow forty that's brilliant news, well done lady! to celebrate!

Tiger, any news? Hope everything went ok, I've been thinking of you.

Sesame thanks for that, that's really helpful and I'm going to ring the clinic and ask. I rang today but they couldn't hear me cause of my signal so I had I hang up. anyway, I hope you're doing ok at the moment.

beaky dr going OK apart from waves of nausea and hot flushes. Scan not until Friday but no sign of AF yet so probably just as well as need to have been properly bleeding for 24 hours before the scan. Fingers crossed Af does actually show this cycle and it's not fucked off again. Sesame stims should start on Friday if all is okay at the scan.

Although it might help juggle the house move if everything was delayed.
Still heard nothing on the move, looks like it might be all happening the same time as egg collection. Latest today was the buyers asking that we move out into rented accommodation in order to break the chain. Moving house is so much fun.

forty Whoop! Congratulations on the job!

Well done forty! Go you! Huge congratulations, and I'm very glad you're managing to find your silver lining. I am wondering about menopur vs merional. I was only on 150 Menopur for my first nine days on the last cycle, so this seems like loads more.

My scan was ok thanks beaky and others who asked. Follies on both ovaries but all looking small, which on day 6 is to be expected I guess. Don't think I was scanned at all until day 9 last time, so not much to compare. Bloods confirmed I should continue with the max dose, and attend my next scan on Weds as planned. Feel a bit achey but not much going on otherwise. Only real side effect is feeling a bit emotional....am listening to our wedding ceremony music choices and feeling weepy! Managed a yoga class but that will defintely be my last until afterwards.

Did you speak to your clinic beaky? I would be tempted by convenience, I must say but would probably want the clinic to do something different. I hope you can find a good way forward.

Sorry you're feeling rough on the DR barking, fingers crossed for timely arrival of af. Hope the moving nightmare ends soon. Can't believe how difficult it can be!

Hope everyone is doing ok?

Glad everything is going ok Tiger my clinic routinely do merional rather than menopur, I don't think there's any difference it's just the brand. I think it sounds good you have plenty of follies and they should be smallish at the moment I think. It's good if they are growing evenly as well. Fx for good growth by Wednesday, when are you thinking ec may be? Early next week? I'm sure the wedding music would make anyone emotional never mind if you're taking meds too!

Barking grrrr to the housing moving stress. I really hope dates work out for you though.

beaky good to hear you had a useful wtf meeting at your fc. how is your research going, into the two new clinics?

tiger sorry you had to deal with seeing all the preggo's on your way into your yoga class last week. how are you feeling now?

barking what did you do in the end, ref. the train stabbing last week? (of yourself, not anyone else...blimey, sounds like I'm condoning violence

forty sorry to hear about your bfn...thats shitty.

grin really good to hear, you've decided to progress with a fresh cycle. hope your timings work out okay.

smidge sorry you are feeling down, about your upcoming fet. its so hard to stay positive, but hope you start to soon.

happy what a pain, that you are going to have a delay with your fet, hope it gets going soon. good to hear about the czech stuff though.

so update from me, is I had my cd2 dildo cam today, and the 2 cysts remained (one of the right was tiny, but one of the left was bigger. they decided to aspirate them both...which I had to have done, with only a local aesthetic, I couldn't be sedated, as I'd driven myself as hubby couldn't make it, cause of short notice with work. it wasn't as painful as I thought it would be.

so we are a go for this cycle (so relieved to not have any more delays), and I did my first stabbing a few hours ago (with the "assistance" of my hubby). I say assistance, he managed to shatter the thing the water was in (rather than snap the top off), then he dropped the merional glass bottle in the sink...and polished it all off, by getting the lid on my sharps bucket jammed shut...honestly, men

I don't mind him being involved, just think I may do the prep tomorrow

am back up to the fc at the end of the week, to see how things are progressing.

for anyone that has been on merional before, should I expect any side effects (I'm on 150 IU)?

Forty Well done on the job!
Beaky Ahh clinic research. Always a fun job. I hope you find one that suits you.
Barking House moving is stressful enough without all the IVF crap. Hope it works out.
Smidge How is all going? You have moved already haven't you?
And I know I have missed people but my finger was sore from scrolling

I had my skype appointment with the nurse today to talk about a plan. We are not starting until April. So I will be doing a huge cycle with synarel, elnova, puregon, saizen, luprolene or ovidrel and dhea (I may have spelled some drugs incorrectly). I am going to be a huge swollen mess after this!

I have also found out that I have some abdominal wall seperation. That explains the floppy stomach that I can't fix. No kids and I have a post c-section stomach. Yay.

Thanks for the congrats berries am feeling very chuffed with myself and cannot wait to start the new job.

I now need to Rant So today I found out that a good for nothing family member who's basically an incompetent alchoholic lunatic has managed to get his latest girlfriend pregnant (this is the latest in a long long line of girlfriends). He has 6 other children he spends no time with and basically leaves these poor women to deal with these children that he has no intention of seeing. He pays lip service to them but isn't there for the actual hard bit. I'm so fucked off by the unfairness of it all. (I don't begrudge the women their children, obviously as that would make me an insufferable arse hole) It just grates on my fucking nerves that he's able to sow his wild fucking seed bringing children into this world left right and fucking center and not giving a shiny shit about their subsequent well being and ladies like us have to go through all of this bullshit for what .. constant heartbreak and the glimmer of a possibility of a BFP ! /rant off. Bastards. Sorry for the swears. I think I need a or will hold out until next week when I'm away for both :)

forty yay, well done you on the new job, great news! It’s also good to be reminded that there are still some areas of life we can still control. I’m also glad you’re feeling better. Will be thinking about you tomorrow when you go to your otd bloods, what time are you going in? Update – have just seen your rant right before posting this, ouch!

beaky did you manage to get through to the fc to ask your questions?

barking I had hot flushes and also migraines when I did DR for LP. I reckon you should feel a lot better once you start the stims. Fingers crossed af shows up when it should. Really hoping that the move gets sorted so it won’t clash with ec.

tiger glad there’s a few follies in there. In my experience things take lot longer to get started if you’ve DR before stims. Good luck for your scan tomorrow.

clem so glad you are finally getting going! I’m impressed that you managed to deal with the cyst aspiration just with local, if you can deal with that you can do anything! Hope your stabbing goes much smoother later on. On my first day on intramuscular progesterone I smashed the glass vial on my bedroom floor which left a horrible oily mess.

grin I’m impressed with your list of meds, I don’t even know half of those. If you’re using synarel, does that mean they are recommending something like a long protocol or a short flare?

Still nothing much going chez sesame. I am obsessively following my cycle and logging everything on my phone trying to predict when my next af might be. It is possible I ovulated in the last couple of days, which seems a terrible waste when I can do nothing about it… Other berries have also got me thinking more and more about what point I can move on. I’ve decided to commit myself to doing 2 more natural cycles. I’m not sure what I do after that, but I don’t think the current approach is sustainable.

tiger is it just me or does it seem like forever since you started the round (as in it seems like forever to me since I started and I'm still only downregging!)?
Next Wednesday seems like quite a wait between scans. I can't remember when they start scanning me during stims, guess I'll find out on Friday should AF arrive on time (well, it's already late but needs to get here by Thursday morning!!!!!)

beaky heard nothing definite on the move yet - solicitors don't actually communicate and try and get things done, they just leave buyers and vendors sitting in massive balls of stress and knowing fuck all for no sodding reason. I have explained in no uncertain terms why being sedated and moving house is not simultaneously possible, but whether the message will actually get through, and whether the end of the chain will give a toss if it does is anyone's guess.

Clem I updated below on the train - managed to do it in the platform toilets between my arrival on one train and departing on the next - a time gap of 9 minutes .
Great news you're underway, what protocol are you on again?

grin that is A Plan you have there, never heard of half that medication!

forty I am that insufferable arsehole, I begrudge any woman their children unless they have suffered for longer than me always judging
What a nightmare having a relative like that, it really hits home the total unfairness of it all.

sesame moving on, however that happens, is scary, but I know I'm ready now. I just cannot handle the thought of this shit continuing any longer than it has to now. I am not putting life on hold any longer, I've been looking at teaching jobs so I can get back in the classroom and planning loads of weekends away to keep me entertained and give me stuff to look forward to. I have a list of stuff to sign up to if/when the ivf bfn is confirmed, starting with the Great North Swim (only 1 mile, not the 10k option!)
OK, I'm ready for my sods law last chance ivf bfp now

barking I'm on a short protocol, currently stabbing with merional.

seasame I just had to deal with the cyst aspiration...I hadn't fully thought things through, and hubby would have rejigged work and driven me, but I told him I was fine to go and drive myself and not to take time off work. I think when I was legs akimbo, and the the doctor made a comment in relation to me doing it alone, with a local...said "thats brave" . bad choice of words on his side, but by that point, it was too far along to change...and to be blunt, I just wanted the sodding cysts gone, so would have done pretty much anything.