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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

The Bumsnet Bus: It doesn't matter how long your journey, or how many twists and turns you've taken, there can only be one destination: BFP! Wipe your flaps and jump aboard!

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eskimoflo · 22/10/2015 19:54

Thought I'd get this party started. Here's the stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHG9PPsOs0yIqgR-o2UXX_fdlCQXdVNLfmPpNOePPjQ/edit

May this bus yield many BFPs! Hoorah!

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DontBeAThoughtlessBird · 24/10/2015 12:40

Mn just ate a big post to Kir including a link to a blog. Fuck off mn with your wank IT issues.

I'll be back when I've got through this heinous hot sweat I'm having.

DontBeAThoughtlessBird · 24/10/2015 12:41
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Soz, Mumsnet.

BeauticianNotMagician81 · 24/10/2015 13:18

Sammy so sorry it's not better news. Fx you ovulate over the weekend. It must be so frustrating but you will get there I'm sure of it. Try to do something to occupy your mind over the weekend. You certainly deserve a few treats.

Bird I can see your post to Kir with the link so it has worked Smile

Kirjava · 24/10/2015 13:20

Thanks birdie. Been ttc since Jan after coming off the pill but only had 7 cycles in that time. Only the last 3 cycles have been regular and consistent with clear obvious signs of ovulation so think previous cycles were not viable.

We're planning on getting checked out privately in Jan if no bfp so will definitely raise the late ovulation and shorter luteal phase as factors then (9 or 10 days).

Do you think it's worth me getting 3 day test if I don't conceive this month? Will I have to fight my gp for it? I had blood tests earlier in the year as I had no sign of my period from Jan to march but gp said everything was normal. I wasn't clued up to ask about specifics back then.

Beansprout30 · 24/10/2015 13:31

sammy Flowers what a journey you are having. Hang in there

kirj I normally ovulate cd18/18, sometimes later on my own with short lp too, acupuncture has brought it forward to cd 14, but still having short lp.

Af arrived for me last night. Feeling thoroughly fucked off.

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Kirjava · 24/10/2015 13:32

bean Flowers sorry for af x

Kirjava · 24/10/2015 13:38

sammy I'm so sorry you're not getting any clarity on what is happening. I really hope this cycle works out for you. We've all got our fingers and toes crossed for you. Do you have another scan booked in? What's the next step? Flowers

loopylou1984 · 24/10/2015 14:35

Thanks Kir, i have a scan booked in for Monday. However if I get a positive opk before then it will be cancelled as will be game over because my lining isn't thick enough, and will cost us £800 for the privilege for the scans we've already had.
The clinic shuts down for December so we would have November to try again (but she said they're really busy) in which case we will be back to waiting until January. I'm praying for a miracle because I don't think I can wait until January. Feeling very sad and let down by my body. Why can't it just work properly? Sad

DontBeAThoughtlessBird · 24/10/2015 14:48

Kirjava, you most certainly should not be fighting for a bloody CD3 test. GPs know Fuck All about fertility in the vast majority of cases. This is a fact. That is why any doctor worth his salt will hold up his hands when asked for tests by a woman and say, 'yes, of course I will arrange for preliminary tests.' Day 3 tests include TSH (thyroid), FSH (follicle stimulating hormone), estradiol and another hormone, but FSH is a very important signifier of egg health.

A short luteal phase is never great news, despite the odd Bumsnetter having had success with a ten-day LP. I'm not saying it's all doom and gloom, but do your research and get to the GP. Beansprout, where are you up to in terms of ttc months and tests? Here are Thanks for your crashing AF hormones. Soon they'll be gone, but let's look forwards and make you a small plan. How does that sound?

Sammy, you are so absolutely deffo going to be PUPO. You're so amazing to be hanging on, despite you crying at home and breaking your heart in ways we can not know. It's agony, and you're allowed to be at the fucking end of your tether. Hold on to your fantastic husband - and to us - and distract, distract, distract until there is definitive news Thanks

Sammy, I also know for a fact - from many years on the infertility/IVF forums here and on Fertility Friend - that follicles do naturally come and disappear for no good reason. It happens for all women everywhere - it's just that the vast majority of us are blissfully unaware as we never have our follicular phase scanned and monitored as closely as you are having.

Please let go of the bit of irrationality that's saying your lining is inadequate and will never be right. It's out of your hands but you have money and time still on your side. Bless you, I know this all sounds so tediously like yet more platitudes from internet strangers, but the time has come to let go of the anger surrounding the wait and the frustration and the not knowing. It will come together. I promise Thanks

LoveAndHate · 24/10/2015 14:52

Sammy if it is January it is January. There is no 'can't' about this - not when you've already plotted and temped and monitored over two years' worth of menstrual cycles. Your journey does not end with a 'I can't wait until January'. Sweetheart, you can wait and we will wait with you. I wish I could hug you in real life. Be strong.

DontBeAThoughtlessBird · 24/10/2015 14:52

^Soz, that was moi^

Beansprout30 · 24/10/2015 15:08

bird we are now onto cycle 18 I think, im losing track Sad im convinced its the short lp that is causing our infertility. Dr has done day 3 and 21 tests and she said results were normal, she referred us to hospital at the end of June and we are still waiting for an appointment. All the waiting is just getting to me now, I don't know what else we can do other than wait.

loopylou1984 · 24/10/2015 15:44

Thanks Birdie, I know. I will wait, of course I will. I am just not very good at being out of control, I like to plan and this is so far out of my control it's torturous!

I'll be ok, dh has taken me for lunch and to the pet shop to cheer me up, and I'm out for dinner tonight so plenty of distractions.

Sometimes I just need a good cry though. Xx

BeauticianNotMagician81 · 24/10/2015 15:50

Bean sorry Af arrived.

Sammy You can't give up we won't let you. We will support you for as long as it takes. Bird is right you need to distract as much as possible. Is there something you can focus on that makes you quite happy. I know nothing will make you as happy as being pregnant but maybe a course or joining the gym or something may give you the break from thinking about it that you need.

Kir I would ask to see another gp about the fertility bloods. It's not acceptable that they won't do them for you. I've had them done and I have children. I asked to see a female gp when I booked so it's not my usual gp and she is super sympathetic & helpful. Most of the time I find it's not different surgeries with different policy's it's each doctor with their own set of rules. Some just can't be bothered. Book an appt ASAP

DontBeAThoughtlessBird · 24/10/2015 16:51

Beans, make it your priority to see a private fertility specialist for one consultation in the New Year. Tell him you know your lp length is a problem and you want his advice. Has your th been tested? Have you had a tube blockage check?

Beansprout30 · 24/10/2015 17:09

Yes I think I will bird , dh has been tested and no problems there, havent had tubes checked I guess that will be next when we eventually get an nhs appointment. I just want all investigations complete so we can move forward

loopylou1984 · 24/10/2015 17:33

Gah! Just seen three posts on Facebook that are variations of 'ooh the clocks go back, an extra hour in bed! Oh wait, I have kids, never mind'

I think I'm feeling a bit sensitive. X

DizzyNorthernBird · 24/10/2015 17:37

Happy Saturday everyone! Just trying to catch up!

bird I do come on here moaning and groaning about DP when I'm frustrated with ttc, so if you have been harsh at all it's probably because I don't always paint him in a good light. He does make this more difficult than it needs to be, but to be fair I'm no angel and my stressing about the situation and being demanding with him probably isn't helping either. I'm not always an easy girl to live with!

I did read somewhere about eggs being poor quality after 21 days. Thankfully, I do usually ov sooner than this. You're right though there are several issues to sort out. DP and I have a long drive up north ahead of us on Monday which will be a good opportunity to talk things through.

juneybean · 24/10/2015 18:48

sammy I've seen so many of those and to be honest I'm rather smug I'll get a lie in!

MagpieCursedTea · 24/10/2015 19:02

Evening all!
I've seen those posts too Sammy and even though I'm lucky enough to have a DS now, I'll always flinch at them and think of how many people will be upset by them. The same with the expecting Santa ones and the ones that are supposedly to raise awareness for charities (that have nothing to do with pregnant or babies).
Struggles with fertility are often so well hidden that it just doesn't even cross some people's minds that it happens.

I'm onto my 4th clomid pill tonight and still bleeding a bit (slightly more today than yesterday). I've been a bit short tempered but that might just be tiredness. I'm hyper aware of my reaction to clomid because of how bad the mood swings were last time that I'm worried it'll become a self fulfilling prophecy.

chopsface · 24/10/2015 21:29

sammy sweetheart... Something will happen and you will get pregnant. Sometimes when you least expect it! Like me! Who'd have thought I'd have got preg naturally the month I was told my body wasn't good enough for iui, and after only DTD twice all month, after 32 months of nothing! My follicles and lining were apparently inadequate and my husbands sperm were crap. The human body does amazing things!

Hairstylisttoboris · 25/10/2015 07:40

Happy birthday dizzyn! Have a lovely day! X

nightandthelight · 25/10/2015 08:12

Happy birthday Dizzy! Cake

Sammy please don't lose heart (easier said than done I realise), you will get your baby. I have everything crossed for tomorrow!

loopylou1984 · 25/10/2015 08:23

Happy birthday DizzyN, hope you have a lovely day.

So my opk this morning is completely blank... Which is great because I haven't surged but slightly concerning as then the thinning lining and lack of follicles suggests I'm not going to.

Why would I get a slight rise in LH but then nothing at all?

If I have Mondays scan we will already have racked up £1000 of bills, my parents have helped out before but I really don't want to have to ask them for more. This has cost us nearly £8000 so far. It makes me feel sick!

So should I just give up this cycle? Save the money and wait for a more standard cycle? I'm not sure I'm willing to drop by chance of being pg in 2015 - what do you all think? What would you do? Xx

chopsface · 25/10/2015 08:38

Maybe you should give it a break sammy let your body recover some normality. Spend some quality time with dh preparing for Christmas. Go out with friends. Make some nice plans. Your embies will still be there in a few months. And there is no reason why you can't fall pregnant naturally. I hate seeing you all worked up like this, and it doesn't sound like your body is going to do it's thing this month, probably because of your stress. But it the end it's your decision to go with, go with your heart and your gut x x

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