The Bumsnet Bus: It doesn't matter how long your journey, or how many twists and turns you've taken, there can only be one destination: BFP! Wipe your flaps and jump aboard!

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Thought I'd get this party started. Here's the stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHG9PPsOs0yIqgR-o2UXX_fdlCQXdVNLfmPpNOePPjQ/edit

May this bus yield many BFPs! Hoorah!

Sammy I'm so sorry your scan didn't give you a definite, but fingers crossed that it is pre-ovulation and Monday's scan will show a lovely follicle. I'm sorry I'm very ignorant about these things, how big should a follicle be?

So sorry that you're still in the dark sammy, I think its the not knowing that is the most difficult. It leaves you constantly questioning everything in your head and it is just exhausting. It's brilliant that you're being given such regular scans though, and Monday isn't too far away to hopefully be given some good news.

Thanks Lily, they need to be around 18-20mm. I don't know why, but I just have a feeling it's not going to work out this month.

Nervous - that is what you get for paying for it! Xx

Ahh Sammy the not knowing is so hard. TTC made me so aware of how little I knew about what my own body was doing. It's weird when you think about it like that! Best of luck for the next scan!

Oh I see sammy, well that would be about right wouldn't it! I only got some traction after seeing a private consultant. Well good for the scans, not so good for the purse! ;)

Nervous, luckily it's a package so we don't have to pay extra for each scan. Although if I don't ovulate then I guess we'll have to pay for a whole new package again. Xx

sammy I hope you get answers soon.

lily welcome back. Are you able to ttc straight away?

sammy You're doing so so well keeping going - the ups and downs and on/off/on again must be so difficult to deal with. I really hope that come Monday either the smaller follicle has grown or the other one has moved into a visible position and is a go-er. Have everything crossed for you and will be thinking of you over the weekend.

lily I was so sad to see your update, and mad to see what your Dr said - what a ridiculous statement! I know all you will want is to have your baby back, but I hope it gives you some comfort that there are quite a lot of Bumsnet grads who've been where you are now and have gone on to take new seats on the grad bus not long after and keep hold of them.

So pleased you're joining in and feeling the love!

Positive thoughts and sperm-to-egg-to-bfp thoughts for all my old chums too!

Was just totally caught out by that Facebook joke, expecting Santa in 6 weeks. Nearly blew my top! ?? (despite obviously being a bit dim because some of you had already mentioned it the other day!)

Agh the clinic just called and want me to come in tomorrow for another scan. It because the nurse that did my original is in and will be able to compare. I think they're going to call it off again.

Sammy, I'm so sorry you're in this limbo. Are you still temping (I know the girls have encouraged you to drop it, but I was wondering what the temps say)? I would like to see you do a fresh round of IVF with the full regimen of drugs. It's horribly frustrating seeing you being monitored for natural ovulation when you're having these bloody stupid phantom cramps and then disappearing follicles. I know there is a set of parents paying for your treatment...God bless them. Please hold on tight, Sammy. You're not even off the starting blocks yet (which is the frustrating part of this whole mess) so there is no room for the demons that will try to tell you that you'll never get your baby. We love you

Lily

Boris, my periods lasted 36 hours at the most and were extremely light sometimes I could get away with two tampons in total Congrats on being told your womb is a fittie.

DizzyN, if only you and that husband of yours could have consistently plentiful sex over six months. Grrr! It's clear that that is what's holding your baby up, no? You'll get there, but by the sounds of it it could be a long slog. Is DH any closer to getting his spaff analysed?

Hi bird, I have taken a few temps and they're telling me nothing. I didn't temp from the beginning of the cycle so have no comparison, but the temps I have taken are kind of inbetween what my pre and post ov temps usually are.
They're trying to avoid putting me on the drugs again as I do not seem to tolerate them well, both times I have ended up feeling and being so sick. I feel like we are never going to find a protocol which works for me :(. Xx

Sammy could it be to do with the 12mm at the edge? I'm keeping things crossed that they want to check on that again.

Kir Dr told me that basically as soon as stop bleeding I can get going again.

ThePug The Dr was definitely old school, well over retirement age when I think they had a little less tact than now. I'm really hopeful by the number of Grads that have managed to get their sticky BFP, trying to focus on that.

I just applied for a new job! I don't think I'll get it, and to be honest I'm not sure I want it, but slightly worried my office may shut so want to be pro-active and have a look about just in case. It's also something to take my mind off everything else.

Before ovulation I'm so damn positive. After ovulation I feel so negative. I HATE the tww and I'm only 3dpo

Snapkirjava I think it's cause I'm expecting to think I'll know if anything is happening, but it's the same old thing every cycle!

Any news from nomio?

Hope the scan goes ok tomorrow Sammy. Will be thinking of you.

That's totally the problem bird! I have a crap DP and we aren't shagging enough! He wants a baby with me but when it comes down to it he can't really be arsed putting in the required effort. But babymaking sex is shit sex, he's turned off by it and so am I if truth be told. So yes, I reckon it could well be a case of waiting for a month where we actually get the timing right, which might take ages. He's dragging his heels about getting the SA, I keep dropping hints about the fact I can't have more tests until he gets checked out, but it's like he's made up his mind that he'll go after Xmas and won't entertain going any sooner. He's a stubborn git.

I got a positive opk. Hmpf. [thihmm]

Why aren't my Halloween emoticons working? [thiblush]

Bah. Fuck it.

That sounds frustrating Dizzy! I know what you mean about baby making sex, it starts to feel a bit clinical and like an obligation.

Hello Amanda! Best of luck to you and your ovary

And I'll just throw in some Halloween emoticons to see if they work and because I want to play with them...
Well that appears to be the only one I have! Are there meant to be more?

Hello Amanda

Dizzy It's thl not thi

amanda welcome! Have you conceived 3 with your one ovary? Tell us more and good luck

Welcome to Amanda!

DizzyN, everyone here knows what you mean about the sex. Even those who are managing anything resembling eroticism or fizzes of squelchy desire will admit that, overall, this is really, really difficult. I won't bore everyone again with the story of how long-term ttc destroyed my sexual relationship. Without a selfless DH who agreed to DIY artificial insemination I seriously do not believe I would be pregnant now.

I think you need to look seriously at your pattern of sex (or lack of) each month and say honestly to yourself: 'right, well, the nights out have to stop if they're going to clash with my fertile window.' You must, must must get the sperm in. It needn't be every night, but sex only once in your fertile window - especially if your DP's sperm doesn't last beyond 36/48 hrs - is never going to get you pregnant.

It's hugely frustrating to read of your missed opportunities month after month (i know you cannot help long shifts) when it is a fact that, even in our early thirties, only one in three eggs are capable of being fertilised.

That's why the consistency of the sex has to be there: getting it 'right' one month in a blue moon could be the difference between getting pregnant next year or the year after.

Personally I think your DP is doing you an enormous disservice. He already has a child. You don't. You matter and your dream of being a mum should matter to him more than anything else in his life right now, because that, in the end, is what will get you pregnant: a partner who will fuck you even when he's shattered and despite there being a dearth of 'filth' in your ttc sex lives.

Have a proper word with him, Dizzy

Welcome Amanda.

Maybe Lily, but with our track record it's far more likely that it's just another failed attempt... That'll cost us £800 for these scans if it's cancelled. My favourite nurse is doing the scan tomorrow so that's something.
Oh god. I have a favourite fertility nurse. Now that's sad! X