So it's John Wayne vs Les Dawson in The Great British Pee Off and Prty's judging... get ready to be basted, lovelies!

[PrtyPsn]

Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2458534-Prtys-Gang-and-The-Festival-of-Foof-Fun-when-they-not-being-cray-cray?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined confused
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Thinking at might be on the way... Slight pinkish tinge on paper when wiping but no cramping. Not officially due till weds or fri depends on what app I use. DH is off to China again next weekend so really hoping it takes its time to start if it comes. Did do an Internet cheapie test which of course was B F N but will just have to see.

Hi all. Any news Neetie and Hippy?

I am irrationally angry today which is usual for me around this time unfortunately. Keep snapping at OH.

Anyway... I am thinking that I will stop TTC for a bit. Just until January. I am not feeling positive about this TWW, AF due around the 16th and just know we haven't done enough this month. My mood swings the past few days have only confirmed it.

As I said before its my father-in-law's birthday the weekend after AF is due so I'm trying to get my head into a new frame of mind as at least I can have a good time and not worry about drinking, questions from family etc. But it has got me thinking - after that it's my first wedding anniversary (we have planned a long weekend to Edinburgh in a luxury hotel with lots of nice restaurants booked) and then obviously it's Christmas with work parties, annual shindig with my girls from uni, family get togethers and all the rest that Dec/NYE brings... I am just not sure if I can be arsed with this rollercoaster over the festive period. I am not sure if I want to be worrying about my fertile days, starting temping, analysing charts, fretting over CM and all the rest!

I feel as though I may as well enjoy my anniversary and (what will hopefully be) my last Christmas without kids. I don't think I want to be bogged down by all this emotion... I will probably have some lows as I really thought I would be PG by then and it is really heartbreaking disappointing, but I just don't want to be in this permanent state of up and down and ruin the festivities...

I was chatting to OH about it last night and he has made clear he thinks putting it on hold till New Year is a good idea although he says he will go with what I want... But then I think I am just a wasting more time and letting even more of my eggs dry up!!! What do you all think? Will you still be TTC over Dec?

Just read that back and don't want to sound like some raging alcoholic, party animal. It's less about drinking etc and more about minimising the emotional torment in order to enjoy the celebrations [santa] I just feel tired of it all.

MrsF it's a good point re taking a break. However, would that work in practice? I.e., would you be taking BC over the next month or two or just "seeing what happens" and trying not to obsess?

Only reason I ask is if you aren't using contraception, your mind will only end up obsessing by default... I tried it one month where my due date would have been ridiculously inconvenient... Didn't stop me from over analysing everything and being disappointed when AF arrived though!

Ugh I think I'm officially going out of my mind.

Googling every symptom and I'm only 8DPO so I wouldn't even be getting symptoms for days yet. ARGH.

Still, I feel tired, queasy, and have tingling boons which I've never noticed before.

Someone talk some sense into me please

Hi all - thanks so much for the and sympathy Flowers and Beanz! It was so nice to sit down on train (on the way home) and read your lovely messages, especially as about 3 hours ago I got pink tinge on wiping!! I know there is a small likelihood of implantation, but not at 13dpo, right?? I felt absolutely gutted, and of course, no period for my sister yet!! We originally started trying again this time because our friends and family were starting to get pregnant left right and centre, and particularly my cousin, who I'm very close to, and his wife, started trying at the same time as us (a little bit after I think) and they've been through pregnancy, and had (a premature, but thankfully healthy) baby. My sister's is now 15 months, my other close friend has also just had one (started trying same time as us). And I just feel like we're going to completely miss the boat!! When we had our DS, it was 8yo, and I felt really isolated. We were really one of the first to do it. To be honest, that's why we didn't try for more in the first 2-3 years (as well as being broke). Then I ended up on medication for my hips for the next 3 years or so, and suddenly here we are with the prospect of DS having no siblings. It makes me so sad!! I know I'm lucky to have one, I do understand that, but I still find it really hard...
Flowers, I know just what you mean, it's very tempting just to say "f it" and just stop trying for a bit!! If you feel like it will help you relax and enjoy the festive period, why not? You may still obsess the last week, but may be more relaxed for the rest of the time!! I know it's hard when you're a bit older like us (you're 38 too right?), but one month won't make a difference...
As I was planning on doing acupuncture for 3 months, I think I'll do one more month, even though it is Christmas, as it is accumulative I think. Although financially, it is really hard! That's what's made it so tough this time, I think, as it's the first month of accupuncture where we mostly got the timing of DTD right, I'm pretty sure I ovulated, so why aren't I pregnant!?!?

Anyway, sorry for the pity party!!

Neetie any news for you yet??

Bex when are you due? I know it's hard, but... Step away from the computer... Go eat your body weight in chocolate/cheese/twiglets*
*delete as appropriate!! Good luck, you can do it!!

Hi no news as such really. No af today which is good and when I swabbed it's gone back to clear..very odd. No other symptoms though, no sore boobs or anything so don't know what is happening.

AF is due in five or six days I think.

Having spent a lot of time poking my boobs over the last few days, I've noticed a lump on one side quite deep down in the skin tissue and about the size of a pea! Not noticed that before. Is it a hormonal thing? Not worried about it being anything sinister as I'm only 30 and there's no family history there but it's a bit odd.

I know, I agree that even if I say I'm not I will be by default. I know when my window is, I will still know what CM I have etc... I just wish I could relax a bit more and just enjoy where I am now...Whether I will be able to who knows? It is always going to be there isn't it? I'm just tired

Bex I think if the lump is still there in the next couple of days you should visit the DR. As you say, it's probably nothing to be worried about but it is always good to get these things checked over xxx

I hate the waiting game Neetie! Keep us posted, really keeping FX that this is your month!

Afternoon, lovelies.

So sorry every one is feeling so down this month :( It must be the ever-reducing sunlight making us all miserable. I woke up this morning, and I'm definitely depressed again. It was super hard to get into work, and now my concentration is shot.

Add to that, I'm now 9 or 10 DPO, so if I'm PG, it'll be implanting around about now and I'm so anxious. AF is due on Sunday, but I'm going to me at MiL's house, so not super excited about POAS there, so I'm considering going for it on Saturday (as I don't want to POAS at 6:45am on Monday morning!).

We did well with our timing this month, but DH says he doesn't think we'll have been successful. He keeps worrying he's not very fertile because he's 37. I keep trying to tell him that he'll be fine for a good decade or two yet (unless there's something else wrong that's not to do with his age, of course). Wish he was a tad bit more up-beat, as it's making it really hard for me to stay positive.

Afternoon everyone, sorry I've been a little bit absent.. Was a little bit fed up and in a little huff with myself.

CD48 today.. Still nothing.. Grr.

bex I'd defo check with the dr over the lump, it probably is just nothing but better just to check and then it's one less thing to worry over for you.

FX for you neetie

Hope everyone else is ok? Currently munching my body weight in jam bakes and oak & raisin cookies! I feel good sick

Well the bitch arrived today so pissed off. Last night woke up with boobs really hurting had gone by this morning. Had a bit of brown when i wiped earlier but nothing major then when I got home more..she's feckin two days early which means fertile period is when DH is in China aside from the last few days which includes the so say OV date of 21st. So we could be out for next month too...grrrrrrrrrr
Only good thing about that is his parents who don't know we are trying are staying at chrimbo so I can drink and not have to avoid the questions.
So scared I will never feel what is is like to have a baby...sulks in corner
This is such a crappy time to be a teacher so many bloody kids everywhere tonnes of babies from other staff at work and feck all for me.

So sorry Neetie

I am feeling pretty cheesed off. AF not due till Monday but having some serious cramps and twinges today so not only is she imminent but have a feeling she will be early. Going to have a massIve glass of wine on Friday and am eating my body weight in Gu puddings again tonight!

Hi ladies, we're all having a crappy time at the minute aren't we We really need a BFP soon, who is next to poas?

I may be POAS tomorrow if I can pluck up the courage (4DBAFD)

Tested yesterday and BFN but no great surprise there. I'll be gutted this month if I'm not though because my boobs have felt very odd although I should be used to BFNs by now

Are we having any GBPOs this weekend?

I could POAS on Saturday (3DBAF) but I'm not going to bother. Nothing out of the ordinary this month (except a sore throat and cold feelings, but if that was a sign I would have been PG hundreds of times by now). I just know we didn't DTD enough and can't face the disappointment of actually seeing a BFN. Would rather just wait until AF rears her ugly head and I can drink all the wine!

Anyone else???

Morning everyone. Sorry we're all having such a rough time. We definitely need a bfp here soon.
neetie - sorry af got you - she really is a bitch. Look after yourself.
mrsflowers - fingers crossed for you, hope the Gu puddings were nice, the cramps might be a good sign, not af.
mummy - fingers crossed for you too - hope the weird boobs feeling is a good sign!
I'm seriously pissed off too. My temps are seriously rocky, I should have ovulated on Sunday but very much doubt it due to the rocky temps - I was basted a few times over the weekend but am panicking I haven't ovulated yet and now dh is on late shifts so that's over for me then - and he refused me last night - said he felt drained!!! I feel drained going through this shit month after month and never getting a bfp. I am just about ready to give up, feel like it'll never happen. Sick of babybombs from smug fertile women who can get pregnant looking at their dh. Sorry, rant over now

I totally feel your rant Kitten! It is SHIT doing this month after month and I completely agree that I and my OH feel drained. I am going to try and cut loose a bit next month, I may be aware of my cycle and will continue to DTD, but I am going to go out and drink and try and enjoy myself!

Regarding your temps try not to worry, it may just take a few months to get used to and actually see a pattern xxx

thank you mrsflowers - good to know I'm not alone in this nightmare. Cutting loose sounds good - yes definitely enjoy yourself. We're going on holiday the day after the bitch is due so I will certainly be having a few drinks then - I'm sick of putting my life on hold for nothing. Thanks about temps - they are just stressing me out at the moment but you're right, I need to get used to it xxx
So brown spotting today - cd17 - what the hell is my body playing at?! It can't even be bothered to give me a tiny bit of hope - my cycles are 28-30 days usually so I give up

Hi all! I've been reading, but not had time to post. Witch is here with bells on (black clots anyone!?), but have got over my disappointment now!!
Just a quickie to post a pic of last cycles temps for kitten in case it's helpful! I think it does take a few cycles to get a clear picture. I'll also post some other pics when I get the chance... Running short on my lunch break...

P.s. Prty is all ok with you!? Hope so! Xx

Thanks hippy - that's good to see your chart - what app do you use? I use fertility friend. Sorry the witch arrived.
Yes I wondered where prty was too - are you okay?

Yes, I have been worrying about Prty too! I hope you are OK?

Sorry about AF Hippy

I'm due to POAS on Saturday/Sunday unless AF appears.

Not sure I'm optimistic, but both Clue and Fertility Friend seem to agree I ov'd on 31 Oct (or there abouts) so I've got about a 30% chance of striking lucky this month.

DH has been v supportive given my plummet into anxiety and depression the last few days. Just wish I wasn't endlessly dealing with people who are going on maternity leave at work so I could stop thinking about it.

PS. Mrs Flowers - enjoy Edinburgh, it's my favourite place in the whole world.