TTC with PCOS (Thread #3)

[RoseBud2015]

If you have been diagnosed with PCOS and would like a small group of very friendly ladies in the same position as you to talk to, then this is the thread for you!

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Stealth Woop for AF! Reprofit closes in 2 wks for Christmas so I'm having a HyCoSy in Dec on the NHS then inducing another AF at end of Dec (if I don't ov again) and then start stimming once that AF arrives. I'm on short protocol which means there's no need to downreg like Banana is. Instead I will start stims on CD3 of cycle at end of Dec then travel to Czech on around CD11 for EC (assuming my ovaries do what they are supposed to! )

rose I was on short protocol last time and it's def VERY quick - started stimming on day 2 and had EC on day 14. Sadly no 2ww as you know but if I had had a fresh transfer it would have been 4 weeks start to finish. Only 12 days of injections rather than 4 weeks for long.

The reason we're trying long protocol this time is to try and work on the lining as well as the ovaries - down regging gives the consultant more control over everything. No idea how I'll respond to stims, so we might find out I don't get on at all with long - and guess the next cycle might be short again.

(Obv I would love there not to be a next cycle but I can't let myself believe it could work on the first transfer!)

Short is loads easier on the body, so def much more preferable IMO!

(Also there's no reason you won't respond to stims Rosebud - if you're mega polycystic would have thought it's way more likely you'll be a very high responder to the Menopur. So no reason you shouldn't get a brilliant crop! Presume you're having your tracking scans in the UK so they can monitor your response and adjust your doses if needed? Sooo excited for you!)

Do any of you ladies use opk's? I'm finding I never really get anything other than a faint line on Internet cheapies so have ordered the clear blue flashing smily kit that monitors oestrogen and lh! Not sure if I ovulated this month but seems strange that my line never changes on these tests! Thanks in advance :)

pear big hugs - you're amongst friends here

oranges hey hey! Lovely to hear from you. Totally stealing the term 'baby blitzkrieg' from you - so so so apt!

stealth yay for AF! Sounds like a great Xmas lined up, keeping fx for you for a good response to this dose

AFM just plodding on really. Quite weird being on the pill and having a month off from TTC (as part of fertility treatment to try and get me up the duff!!). Quite good timing though given the raging flare up of cystitis I have at the moment - second course of antibiotics in a month, fourth in 9 months. Urgh. Pill is fine - consultant asked if I had any preference as to which one, so I opted for the one I knew was fine for me (as opposed to the one that sent me into a raging hormonal weepy mess). Just biding our time until Jan rolls around really. Looking at signing up for a few volunteer shifts for Crisis over Xmas: mainly cos it would be nice to feel some sense of purpose if I can't do the one thing I'm supposed to be able to do. And selfishly I think that maybe if I put some good karma out there, that maybe some of it might come back to me...!

ooh rose how exciting! When do you normally take provera (as in cd??)? it's all so close now!!

And bananafish crisis are great. I donate a big lump of money to their Christmas services as it makes me so sad to think of people alone at Christmas time. If I was ever in the uk I'd definitely volunteer!

Banana thats a great thing to do at Christmas good for you. I suppose in a way it must be nice to have a month off you can chill and get yourself ready for whatever the new year throws at you.

Rose so excited for you. I am on 150 menopur but only every other day. As I said before the nurse said she doesnt think I will respond so might have to move to daily injections.

I have my scan on Wednesday, only one more injection to do before then and its been fine really. Have not been feeling too bad at all. Just had acupunture session which was nice was chatting to her about whether I go straight for IVF rather than go through with the three cycles of injections and IUI. Going to think about it over christmas.

I didn't think I'd ovulated this month however I have bought the clear blue ovulation tester stick and had a flashing smiley this morning (high fertility) so maybe I have! Confused by the whole thing!

Morning All, sorry I have not posted in such a long time, I found this thread shortly after being told I was not ovulating (day 21 tests) and that they thought I had PCOS. I have followed stalked this post since then and am so pleased that you all seem to be getting somewhere. I have wanted to post so many times but found the whole thing so overwhelming and you ladies just seem to know what you talking about and I felt that I couldn't add anything to the conversation, but I need to talk and hope you don't mind if I talk to you ladies.....So i had the implant removed in Feb this year (after 12 years using it), my cycle settled down quickly to 25 days but I was having inter-menstrual bleeding from CD9-CD17 every cycle. So I went to the GP she did blood tests and told me I am not ovulating and had PCOS (something to do with LH/FSH levels being 3:1). Told me to lose weight wait 6 months and come back. Well I started running have lost 18lbs (and still going) in the meantime my cycle lengthened to 28 days but I was still bleeding in the middle of my cycle, I couldn't cope with the bleeding so went back (before the 6 months were up) and she referred me to Gyne Dept. Had my first appointment on the 3/11 (CD3), he referred me for a HSG, ultrasound scan, days 2-4 and Day 21 bloods and DH for a SA. Had to wait for the next cycle before I could book the HSG.

The last cycle I HAD NO INTER-MENSTRUAL BLEEDING AT ALL

So the HSG was booked for last week (CD8)..OMG after 45 mins of writhing around down there she told me that she could not get the catheter through my cervix. Apparently it is a pin prick cervix which also has scar tissue impeding the catheter. I was devastated, I was so worked up that this was it they were going to find out why I was not getting pregnant, I sat in the car and cried for a whole 30mins before I could set off home! Went for my ultrasound yesterday, she told me my ovaries looked okay, the right was slightly swollen but the left looked good and there was a really good lead follicle developing (CD12) then she told me that there was a lot of fluid behind my cervix and there was a 2cm separation (i have no idea what this means!) she thought it was probably blood caused by the aborted HSG! GP has today has given my antibiotics to see off any infection and I am passing lots of bloody jelly (sorry TMI!). I am just so confused!!! I starting temping last month and there was a clear thermal shift with temps rising from CD12 until CD15, then stayed high and only started to drop CD25 (AF arrived CD28)...GOD I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO THINK. I am 38 years old now and just want a baby! Thank you for listening and any words of wisdom are very welcome x

Hi Elle :) have no advice for you about what they have found on HSG however just wanted to say hello and agree with you that PCOS makes everything more complicated!! It does sound like youre ovulating from your last few lines however gp blood tests are accurate - assuming they where done on exactly the correct day!!

thanks nurse my last day 21 bloods were done in October when I went back about the inter-menstrual bleeding, the GP said that they showed I was still not ovulating (the only other cd21 blood were done in June/July). It was only the last cycle where I have had no bleeding other than AF, which is regular 28 day cycle for last 5 months. I don't seem to have a problem getting my period !

nurse flashing smiley means your oestrogen levels are rising and your body is gearing up to ovulate - which hopefully will turn to a solid smiley once they rise enough to kick start the LH surge which triggers ovulation

So flashing smiley doesn’t mean you have ovulated yet, but does suggest you are gearing up to i.e. time to get DTD! woop! xx

Freddie that's awesome news - fx for you. Will be interested on where you come out on IVF vs injectables/IUIs as I suspect I'm about 4-6 weeks behind you in having to make that decision (albeit with diathermy rather than injectables).

Elle - I'm not sure exactly what tests you've had done when but if you've had multiple tests showing you're not ovulating the next step would normally be Clomid.

AFM, cd4 and day 3 of Clomid. Absolutely no symptoms at all (other than a bit of tiredness) so not too hopeful - but then again last time I had floods of CM and it did absolutely eff all in terms of response so maybe no side effects is a good thing?! But no popping prickling ovaries that's for sure!

Hello everyone,

Well, as you might remember the GP receptionist told me I didn't ovulate last cycle. I saw my consultant last week and he said that he thinks I did ovulate (as I suspected!). He said that the GP just looks at the number but doesn't have the specialist knowledge and he was very happy with my response to the clomid. Obviously I was really pleased to hear that but also annoyed at how upset I got for no reason! Anyway, the consultant has confirmed that I also ovulated in my current cycle (hurray!) so just waiting for my period to turn up (just need DH to be in the same country as me when I'm ovulating and it might help with the pregnancy thing...). I feel like I'm making some progress now but like some others on this thread just waiting for 2016 for a fresh start to it all.

bananafish glad the pill is going okay. Volunteering sounds like a brilliant thing to do.

rose glad things are moving forward and you have a plan! Very exciting!

stealth glad you're not having any nasty side effects from the clomid. Your Christmas of fun also sounds very good!

Hi elle I don't have any advice I'm afraid but rant away! Well done on your terrific weight loss by the way.

Hello to everyone I've missed and welcome to nurse . Sorry to hear about all the baby announcements. Hang on in there ladies. xx

Thanks banana - stills flashing smiley tonight so will try again tomorrow! Had my first ever positive internet cheapie opk tonight too!! Very odd lol!!

Thanks for the welcome eighty eight

What is it with this time of year and all the announcements? About 460 of my friends have announced pregnancies recently (obviously I never over exaggerate!!!)

Thanks for your advice ladies and sorry about the rant, it is just so frustrating.....I am convinced that I ovulated last month, positive OPK, temp shift and ovulation pain...didn't have cd21 bloods last month though so don't know for definite. If they saw a good lead follicle (their words not mine) on my left ovary then does that mean there is a good chance that I will ovulate this month?? In some ways i cannot wait for my next appointment with the consultant on the 29/12 to find out what is going on and get a plan of attack but in other ways I am so scared....what is he going to find???

Hi everyone, I've been awol for a while (since the web hacking!) but I've been keeping an eye on this thread :) so happy for all the BFPs :)

So, I'm on CD8 today, not taking any other vits except pregnecare and will follow the SMEP method this month.

I have a cyst on my left ovary that's around 4cm but isn't getting bigger, other than that I'm hopeful for a Sept baby :)

Welcome back zazzles

ellewalk rants are always welcome on this thread we all have them occasionally on here.

eightyeight that's great news that you did ov and don't beat yourself up for reacting like that each time we have a set back it feel like a real kick in the teeth!

My scan went much better than expected two follicals at 14mm so going to do two more injections to hopefully get them to 18 then maybe (just maybe) iui on Monday.

I keep thinking.... A bfp is all I want for Christmas. Listened to Mariah earlier when I was feeling a bit emosh and the words to "all I want for Christmas" take on a whole new meaning when you are in our situ had a little Cry I must admit.

Fingers crossed for you freddiesmother! A Christmas bfp would be absolutely amazing!!!

eighty congrats on ov-ing - amazing news!! your body doing its thing bodes really well for when you and DH are in the same country and you can get to work on the pregnancy thing Here’s to a fruitful and fertile 2016!

stealth super excited for you - hope you have a fabulous Xmas away and that you get a nice juicy follie as an early Xmas pressies

Re: drilling, as I mentioned, a friend had ovarian drilling after getting nowhere with Clomid. Her daughter is now three!

Freddie amazing! that all sounds so promising. massive two fingers up to that stupid nurse who said a low dose wouldn’t work for you. Pah!!!

elle so frustrating, really hope the consultant appointment gives you some answers. A lead follicle should mean you are DEF on course to ovulate, so sounds like your ovaries are doing just brilliantly

Zazzles welcome back! Hoping the cyst doesn’t misbehave and that your SMEP plan gets you that September baby

AFM, ugh, spoke too soon about the pill symptoms. The combo of down regging (and being put into temporary menopause) plus the pill has made the hormones kick in big time - have gone from mega short fuse and complete sense of humour failure (HULK SMASH) to weepy and despondent and generally emotionally all over the place. Waaaaah. Baby blitzkrieg all over the place - obv I am so so so happy for everyone, esp those lovely ladies who have struggled with infertility who deserve it so so much. And it does give me such hope! It’s just in my, er, emotionally volatile state that I’m not feeling particularly resilient at the moment.

Oh and I had another raging bladder infection and had to spend several hours on Sunday in the walk in clinic to get an emergency course of ABs. Second in a month, 4th UTI this year. FFS.

On the plus side, DH did a sperm freeze as a back up for our next egg collection day after the events of last time, and the embryologist told him he had an ‘awesome’ sample - so at least only one of us is broken! He was worried that at 45 he would have issues with sperm count - although his morphology was borderline, the embryologist said 4% was considered normal (strict criteria) and certainly with a count of 168m there was nothing to worry about. Although in any case, as we have to do ICSI on frozen eggs, as long as there are a few good ones in there, it’s relatively academic - as unless we can find a way to get my lining up in a natural cycle, there’s basically bugger all chance of a natural BFP, even if I am ovulating.

Hoping for Xmas BFPs all round! xx

YAY! bananafish and her fab sperm sample

At least that is going to plan

Also, at least you have an excuse for having meltdowns lol! Hope all goes to plan for you :)

Hello, can I come back please? I was on the thread back in the summer before the hacking drama, and I've just taken time away from here after a difficult year.

Finally, FINALLY after a TEN MONTH wait we are finally getting out appointment with the NHS fertility dept in January.I'm also looking into private clinics as we are completely disheartened with the NHS and the crazy time scales. Does anyone have any advice on what to look for apart from success rates? I think there's only two clinics around here which keeps things easier!

Aww wouldn't a xmas bfp on here just be amazing!! Everyone sounds like they're progressing well in different ways on here at the moment :-) Yay for all the oldies joining the thread again. I do like a busy thread!

AFM: well, tbh...I've kind of lost the plot this week and have been feeling a bit angry mainly towards DH! We're away so my eating habits haven't been so good but I did get a smiley face this morning so we shall see. I really have low hope this month though as DH hasn't been drinking the 2 litres that the fertility nurse said he should Infact I feel like 4 weeks in and I've become a nagging wife following him around with glasses of water and vitamin pots Why can't he just do it all him self with the same motivation I have??!! Grrrrrr!

Thanks banana and freddie :)

freddie I love that Mariah song!! Not heard it on the radio yet though, fingers crossed for a xmas bfp

Anyone else ovulating next week? I'm so impatient!