Short Luteal Phase

[mascaraisamust]

So after 6 months of ttc I've worked out I've got a short luteal phase of 9 days, however it could be even less. I get a positive opk on day 19 and 9 days later AF appears. I'm fearing it could be less that 9 days if I ovulate 24-36 hours after a postive opk. No suprises that there hasn't been a bfp yet. I'm thinking this is my obstacle. Seems I've tried everything else. Do I go to my GP? Is there any point? On preconception vitamins with b6 in and have been in them for three months and no changes. Also AF is really painful every month, wondering if there is more to this. Any ideas? Or anyone experienced/ing similar?

Oh I know that, but I dont want it to drift until I'm 40 for example, so I feel I need a cut off. I also dont want a 5+ year age gap with DD. She'll be nearly 3 even if I conceived this month (unlikely) and it worries me.

Thanks all. I may well stretch the truth. They will know that it's not been a year as we only lost our dd2 in Jan.

I'm hoping that being at a much higher risk of a pregnancy with a trisomy they might do something, or at least shorten the time (and tell me to come back maybe after Christmas or something) before they'll do anything.

I've booked in with a female gp who has an interest in mental health (of which I have many issues) and obs and gyne so hopefully she'll at least be a bit more clued up.

We really can't afford private. We need to save our money in case I do get pregnant as I will need at least £500 for private tests in the first trimester (that's are unavailable on the nhs at all)

I will definitely be telling her that this time next year is my cut off. I will be getting sterilised after that as I cannot risk going through what I've already been through a second time so it's a bit 'now or never'

I guess I stretch the truth and hope for the best. I also need to discuss heavy periods, abdominal pain throughout my cycle and spotting during my LP as well so I guess it's just fingers crossed.

I totally get it about the age gap sanch. I didn't want more than 3 years either.

Sorry mrsmugoo. I obviously didn't make it clear. I've been told by fetal medicine specialists that because I have had a dd with a trisomy that my risk does rocket (1:8000 for the normal population, I'm now at 1:1000 for any subsequent pregnancy, at 35 that increases to 1% so 1:100) I know it won't change between 34 and 364 days and 35 but basically every year I get older the chances of me having a baby with a leathal chromosomal issue increases above the 'normal' population baseline iyswim.

It's only because of my history that I'm worried about 35. I didn't mean to offend or imply that 35 is 'old'

How old were you all when you had your first DC? Most friends have had kids. So I feel likely im playing catch up! Ttc #1 is hard enough, nevermind #2!

Kitty I'm sure no one is offended! Sounds like you've had a difficult time lately. Sorry I can't offer much advise!

Sunshine its cd6 for me Ive been exactly the same as you, eating and drinking what I want and I still am. I don't think the stress of stressing about all that helps! I've had scallops, prawns, medium lamb, mussels, you name it! I've gone from being super paranoid to being the complete opposite.

Appointment tomorrow, I hope this will be money well spent!!

I was 31, nearly 32, when I had DD. Am 34 next month.

Goodluck for tomorrow Mascara.

Kitty, I think you should definitely stretch the truth if you can, given the circumstances I'd like to think they will be more willing to help you sooner.

I think I'm 1dpo so have started tucking into the pineapple core. I've been the opposite this month and been really careful with eating, drinking etc which I haven't really been the last few months. But I stupidly feel excited again like I did in the first few months when I was convinced it was going to happen straight away, I'm sure I'm setting myself up for disappointment, I should know better by now. Xx

Fingers crossed for your appointment tomorrow mascara, can't wait to hear an update!

Sunshine I feel excited too, not sure why!

Thanks Mrs and Sunshine, I'm sligjtly anxious about being laughed out the place as I don't feel like I have a 'real' problem but for £200 I'm sure they can offer me some advise!

*advice rather!

Good luck Mascara! Let us know what they say. I know what you mean about everyone having babies. Most of my friends have babies or are pregnant - one friend is almost a week overdue on her littleun so I'm surrounded and apart from one friend all tell me their pregnancies were a 'suprise'!

Sunshine you're not far behind me I'm 3DPO!

My FF app has updated this morning to show me at 4dpo, I'm not sure how as I missed a temp at the weekend, but that would make us the same Sunshine, although I'm not sure I'm convinced it's accurate for me as was still getting positive OPKs and ovulation pains. Anyway this morning I got a temp dip below the coverline, have googled and apparently its a second estrogen surge, I've never had this before. Please go back up tomorrow. x

So weird I Los had a temp dip today which is just on the cover line which looking back over my last two charts I didn't have that.

I also did a Google. From what I read it should go back up tomorrow and the second estrogen surge just confirms ovulation did take place so nothing to worry about.

Fingers crossed for us both - we could be testing on the same day!

Also not Los!

Here's a picture of my chart this cycle. The # in notes is when I had my ultrasound scan (on the second day of AF )

Not usually on that light which is why I took a second pregnancy test as my doctor said just in case I was pregnant but nope. BFN.

Cover line is 36.06C and temp today dropped to that temperature.

How far below the cover line did yours drop?

Mascara how was the appointment?

Fingers crossed for you sunshines! We should all best testing very near this month, Im 7dpo so im not too far ahead.

Waiting for my appointment now, feel nervous! My DH is convinced they'll take my money and fob me off with it's normal. I'll let you know!

Really hope they don't fob you off Mascara, fingers crossed for you.

My coverline is at 36.4C and my temp today was 36.35 so my temps are a bit higher than yours usually. Your chart looks good, well done with all the BDing x

Sunshine you've been hard it!

The consulatation was great. mrs you were right, a totally different experience!

So I told them about my day 21 pg level being 1, spotting when I got my bfp, luteal phase was 8 days approx. and the nhs gp just telling me to relax and refusing to do any more bloods. I also argued my case for progesterone and the trials I'd looked at.

He said he was impressed by my knowledge and that he had to check my notes to see I wasn't a doctor! I said I've done a lot of reading around and he agreed I had self diagnosed and hit the nail on the head and that waiting any longer makes no any sense.

So he has written to my gp suggesting that I now have full bloods done to just check prolactin and other things whilst I'm there. DH is also having a SA on the NHS.

He wants me to wait one cycle and then he wants to start me on clomid and progesterone once I have ovualted.

He also said if I get my BFP this month he would happily prescribe progesterone

So relieved. And he said you have a luteal phase defect one of the easiest things to fix! I asked about B complex, vitamin C etc and he said they do work for some people but it's short term.

DH actually ate his words and we have both left feeling so much better.

Ah Mascara, that is great news, such a relief to hear that paying for private is worth it, it sounds like you will have your BFP in no time. What is he prescribing Clomid for?

Having read this, I think we will give it until after xmas and then if still no BFP will go private straight away x

I'm so happy for you mascara - isn't the difference between private and NHS so enormous!!!

I know not everyone has the money but it's not that much ifyou just need a consultation, scan, bloods and a prescription - it's basically the same as a nice holiday or something and you can't put a price on a longed for baby. It's the best money I've ever spent.

The NHS is just so overstretched and if I were to be really sick then I would want whatever treatment I needed.

Is the clomid to bring your ovulation forward?

He said it's not always the case that progesterone will give you a bfp, it depends on what is causing the low progesterone and he says sometimes a stronger egg leads to stronger progesterone naturally as a result of it.

However, he said he will do both, provide Clomid prior to ovulation to stimulate the egg and then progesterone to support. Startinf on a low dose of clomid and see how we get on.

If I haven't got a bfp this month I want AF to turn up so we can get a wriggle on with getting the next cycle out of the way so we can get started! Probably looking like end of Nov, early December x

Mrs, thanks for pushing it. It's the best £200 I've spent so far and I'm so pleased he is advising the bloods/SA through our Gps so we aren't having to pay. X