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juneybean · 11/04/2015 14:04

No wankers allowed.

BFPs for everyone!

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purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:23

Sparkly, my friend sends her sympathies to you. She cannot understand why they are blocking your requests for progesterone investigations. She agrees with me: this is biochemical or failed implantation - effectively the same issue my friend has. She also agrees you should ask for a referral to a different fertility consultant: "I think she needs to see another doc or consultant. Just because her bloods are fine why would you not give progesterone support as a precaution? Why are they blocking this treatment?" If changing cons is not favourable to you, Sparkly, then start by demanding an appointment with the leading consultant in your case. Demand a review of all your treatment so far, including the two chemical pregnancies. Demand all your baseline tests be carried out again. Do not be fobbed off by this nurse.

My friend then goes on to ask: "Is it possible that the nurse is working around NHS funding for the couple's benefit? As in, if they get to, say, 6 months without a pregnancy then IUI is an option?"

I have copied and pasted the next bit of our convo:

FRIEND: 'I think she should demand an app with the consultant leading her treatment as it has been 8 cycles and by the sounds of things it is so light touch (no crinone which is such a standard thing) it is invisible.'...'I have found it impossible to get beta's btw hence why I discount it although I did get betas from my GP - she can try that instead of the clinic.'

ME: 'I don't understand your last post about the crinone and something being a 'light touch'?

FRIEND: 'What I'm saying is, what exactly is the clinic doing if the treatment they are offering is hardly anything?'

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:24

Darling, I'm sorry I have been tactless in posting this on the forum when it should have been sent to you in private. Do forgive.

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 12/04/2015 22:25

Sparkly Thanks so sorry you are going through this again. It's so unfair. Please stay strong lovely x

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 22:38

Purdie thanks for sending that! And for your lovely friends input. Please pass on my earlier message to her. Ok so basically the clinic are seeing us because we are doing AI due to the sex issues right? So technically they are doing nothing now other than providing the syringes. I hear what your friend is saying- what's the harm in the progesterone? But I'm thinking the response will be that they have to follow the guideline and can't prescribe to someone who is ovulating on their own sufficiently. I am going to write down a list now with dh of what to say to the nurse. I might also sneakily record my call weirdo incase I forget anything she says. Wish I could just get a grip and lay it on the line and not give two hoots what her perception of me is, but as I'm gonna be with this lot going forward I don't want to rock the boat too much. This clinic is solely for fertility testing. They offer no treatment, they refer me on - to Ninewells in Dundee which I hear has a really good rep in Uk?! Who knows. So I'm hoping they will do that soon. Dh suggested tonight even going private for a consultant overview and to get an answer about the spotting and possible progesterone. It would certainly be worth the £150 consult fee. And maybe a blood test fee. The HSG and scans are all done so there would be no fee involved there and at least that way I could feel comfortable knowing I will get time to go through my concern and get my answer. I dunno, maybe that's a silly idea. I just want taken seriously.
When I asked Gp about betas before she said they don't routinely do them?! Honestly! I love having our NHS but do you know how many times I've seen pretty much everyone in America getting betas as standard when you google TTC related issues. It's insane!

Hairstylisttoboris · 12/04/2015 22:46

Oh sparkly please don't wort how you come across. Be pushy if you need to. Xx

oyster I think my DH would be praying for exactly the same thing!! He had the radio commentary on for the game yesterday, the only thing more boring than watching it on TV is listening on the radio!

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 22:47

"Crinone" progesterone gel?

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:47

Sparkly, I know this clinic are primarily for your AI purposes, but they are blatantly disregarding your early miscarriages. I can't agree more strongly that you should pay for a review from a different fertility cons.

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 22:47

Oyster ha ha Grinyour dh

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:49

Yes, my friend obviously hasn't tried suppositories. Different IVF clinics will implement different prog programs.

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 22:49

Purds so you agree about shelling out the cash which will probably be supplied by the parents temporarily ok. So Tomor I will look into who is best in the area of Scotland I am. They won't laugh me out the door having only been 9 months?

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 22:50

Everyone- sorry im taking over this thread tonight I promise to shut my trap tomorrow!! Wink

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:50

My friend has a good point: what is your fertility clinic's plan going forward?

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:52

Sparkly, money talks. Don't be afraid. Pay for a one-off consultation. Two chemicals will NOT be laughed out of a private consult.

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:52

4mls of man fat...

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 22:54

Stop apologising. Don't you know how loved you are on here? Just let us comfort you for once. Please.

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 12/04/2015 23:00

Sparkly tell them you've been trying longer. Xxx

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 12/04/2015 23:01

I'm fucking starving. Off to shove some Nutella and toast down my pie hole.

I will forever be a chubster!!!! Hahaha

Pikz · 12/04/2015 23:04

Sparkly at a private consultant with your history they won't ever laugh at you. I went to mine after 5 months first time round as I knew something was wrong.

Big hugs

Alpha100 · 12/04/2015 23:20

hair I think I will take your advice and pop along next weekend. Those that post on the local parkrun seem a friendly bunch.

sparkly thanks for the advice on the cbfm and good luck for tomorrow.

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 23:21

4mls tonight Purdie ?! This man is a machine!!!!! Go for it! Sorry I say sorry a lot ha ha. Ooopsy. You are right about money. Ok. So I won't be laughed at. Ok. If you are sure! I'll take your word for it. The treatment plan is supposedly on route.. I'm awaiting a letter from the consultant to inform me of what Dundee say is advised as they are conferring on it apparently.

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 23:22

Pikz oh did you love?Thanks for sharing that . Ok I feel reassured!! Flowers

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 23:23

Alpha no probs. I can't remember who but I know someone has one on this thread. Maybe they will
Give you more info!

Sparkly123 · 12/04/2015 23:24

Glittery nutella love! Can't beat a holiday crepe with nutella! Can you add that to our holiday to do list?! Ta

purdiepie · 12/04/2015 23:27

Sparkly, remember my hot doctor? Dr Cairns? He was the one who said to me when I bemoaned my cons only prescribing 6 months of Clomid: 'Could you afford just one private consultation with him? Why? Money will buy you anything you want in the world of fertility.'

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 12/04/2015 23:31

On the list! x