'Is Foundation Feminist?' Who gives a shiny shit? On this 'ere March bus we want career-destroying babies!

[PurdeyPie]

So you're a hedge-fund manager who wears Reiss suits and Clarks shoes but the allure of nappies and nannies is growing stronger? Yep. You're on the right buzz. We're heading straight for Knocked-Upsville and we've got an on-board telly for watching OBEM and slagging off the scrotes who go to th'ospickal clutching a Lidl carrier bag. Come and join us. Don't be coy. Don't forget yer lube and soy.

Hi everyone. I had a little lurk last night but I was on my phone and it's hard to type long replies. I especially enjoyed your slightly mad plans for moving in together and the banter about the new song!

I think I'd be 5+2 today. the bleeding has stopped today and I've only got a little clear/brown discharge if I wipe. yesterday it was just brown sludge staining on panty liner, Tuesday was heavier and a mixture of brown sludge/stringy with specks of red, similar to Monday. I've not had any bright red or clots.

I had a phone call from the mw yesterday morning and explained that I was wanting to ask about consultant led care, but that it was all academic as I'd started bleeding since requesting the call back last week. she was lovely, although non committal in her answers that it could either be a break through bleed- where your body tries to have a period, threatened mc, or proper mc, or it could end up as a mmc. She said if I had bright, fresh blood, and pain then to contact the EPU. otherwise I just need to wait it out, as I suspected it's too early to have a scan. she didn't offer blood, and I didn't ask. I did ask if I should take another test and she suggested to wait 7-10 days. I'm trying to be philosophical but feel a bit in limbo. She said to keep the apt with her in 3 weeks, when I will be 8 weeks, and I am getting my BP checked today with the PN so I have a baseline. maybe I will take urine sample with me anyway. I did another pregnancy test yesterday before I spoke the MW, which came up + straight away and the vertical line (CB) was much darker than the previous tests, but I don't know if that means anything other than I have lots of hormones (still?). Is the vertical line the important line on a CB test?

I've not changed my routine, or taken it easy. Life goes on. I have a 6 year old who needs to the school run, a husband who is working away this week, and I'm trying to pack to go away next week. we are visiting family but it involves a short flight. I'm going to pack some sanitary stuff in case the bleeding comes back.

I think I will try and book in with the GP for when we get back from our short break as I feel like I can't wait for that MW appt. I'm trying not to go back to symptom spotting but it's so hard not to let your mind wander.

I hope I haven't brought the mood of the board down. I'm not sure where I really belong at the moment so I'm hoping you'll let me lurk around here for bit more.

Thanks everyone

Autumn, good to hear from you. I think the fact that you've been passing brown sludgy stuff is very positive. It's the bright red blood with clots that's often bad news. Did the mw offer you a scan at 6 weeks? I would be tempted to phone epu at 6 weeks and say you're still spotting(even if you're not) to get a scan. It's horrible being in limbo. Sending a hug to you.

no she didn't offer me any early scans, only to contact epu if things change. I'm going to be away when I'll technically be 6 weeks, and then it's the BHs. so I'm hoping that the next 2 weeks or so will pass quickly.

what a worrying time Autumn. I have everything crossed for you.

Fx for you Autumn, sounds like a very stressful time for you! The fact that the bleeding is dying down and it never went red and clotty is reassuring though :)

Morning

Boris Sorry you had such an awful day yesterday. I hope you have a better one today and you can work things out with DH. Sorry AF has arrived for you also. & for you.

Purdey I'm sorry for the BFN hun, really hoping the raised temps are a good sign and the HCGthingame hormone in your urine is just taking a little while to show.

Wotsit sorry to hear about your friend, fx it is just a bleed and nothing more serious. Hope things go well for her this morning.

Nomio Hope you're day goes well as it possibly can today. I am sure your sister will appreciate the support.

Think you all need a big unmumsnetty hug.

I phoned the hospital yesterday and left a message asking what happens next. We've had all our tests and I've had a scan so I'm thinking we might get an appointment to discuss results. Hopefully they'll return my call today. Hoping I can get some more info on dp's sperm. I know the count was low but what other info should I be asking for?

Oh purdey I'm sorry that's so rubbish I don't want to clutch at straws but didn't you say with Nancy your result was really faint? So if ovulation was a day out it could make all the difference.
wotsit sorry I can't offer advice but really hope it's not bad news for your friend.
autumn I can't imagine what you must be going through. You're very strong to keep "normal" life running, rooting for you that things turn out ok
boris sorry for AF, hope you and DH make up, it's horrible when you fall out.
nomio hope today goes okay and for your sis

I think we all need some and today.

Autumn, it is positive that it is only brown sludge and not bright red bleeding. No cramping is a brilliant sign. I would go to EPU as soon as you are logistically able to after 6+3 wks; that is the only way you will get reassurance. However, if you merely tell EPU that you are spotting they will turn you away, that are very, very strict about that. You have to lie through your teeth and say you are in agony and filling three pads in an hour with bright red blood. I am sorry but that is what you would have to do to get your reassurance scan. Some EPUs are slightly more sympathetic (for example, as an IVF patient I was rushed in for a scan whenever I had a single spot and I was panicking). It just depends how comfortable you are with lying.

It is horrible, horrible, horrible when brown or ed stuff appears in your knickers. The fear is overwhelming. It is annoying when people say 'all you can do is wait' but this is true. It's good that you're leaving your four walls. Concentrate on your family and we will be crossing fingers for you

Hello Everyone. I've delurked to say thanks to you all for keeping me (almost) sane during my 2WW. I just got AF this morning after feeling really hopeful...but it's nice knowing that we're not the only ones trying and you are a lovely supportive bunch. So thanks!! xx
Stats: TTC#2, age 37, cycle 6, CD1 not temping (think I'd get too obsessed knowing me! but using IC OPKs)

Boris, darling, what on Earth is going on in the Boz household Is your job impacting on your marriage? I'm honestly not prying about the row, but I know you two have a great relationship, right? Do you have someone to spill yourself to in RL? Mum? Bezzie? I hope you find some peace soon, lovely lady - and you know you can talk to us about absolutely anything. No judgements 'round here

Hello, Hope! Sorry about AF. How long did it take to conceive your first tot?

I love the idea of a housebus. I spend an inordinate amount of time on the bog, though

This is my chart. I've just realised that if I did indeed ovulate a day earlier at CD13 then I went for 'day 21' bloods on the wrong day (8DPO)

It took 7 erratic cycles to conceive DD1 (ranging from 27 to 47 days long). Used CB OPKs then but didn't get a smiley when we conceived the little one - even though I tested over 18 days of the cycle (because they were so erratic). We DTD every day for 2 weeks though that month (knackering!). Using ICs this time as I can see the line getting darker and doesn't feel so pointless when they're so cheap for 50 of them!

Thought I might be lucky this month as timed things ok and had been having period type pains since last Friday (which was exactly what I had for DD1). But, it wasn't to be this month. Glass of something nice for me tonight I reckon.

Fingers crossed for the rest of you still waiting and for everyone else x (hell, why not for everyone)

Morning you crazy ladies, what a giggle last night.

Good luck POAS oyster, fx for you.

Sorry AF arrived Boris & Hope, same here going to have a pass to both buses. I'm not leaving until I see some more BFPs.

Nom your a good sister, I hope today goes as well as it can do. I'll be thinking of you.

Purdey sorry you got a bfn but the high temps are good, hang in there.

Autumn good to hear from you, what a stressful time for you.

Wosit hope your friend is ok.

So had the bright red spotting last night, put a pad on and this morning nothing! Did a hpt just in case it was breakthrough bleed and got a bfn, wiped again and bright red/clotty so it's sunk in now. Off to say hello on the April bus

EPU scanned my friend this morning and all is fine. They said its implantation bleeding and should settle down within the next 2 weeks. Phew!

Yay wotsit :)

I hope everything works out well for you autumn.

That's a huge relief wotsits

Our EPU is amazing. They scanned me at weeks 6, 8, and 10 just for pure reassurance because I'd had a miscarriage and they didn't want me to stress and worry. My bf is 5weeks+4 and when she phoned them they told her to go straight in for an internal.

I feel weird. I'm either pregnant or hungry, we'll see how I feel after lunch

Wotsit, great news for your friend.

Frog, sorry af is here

Wotsit! That's such good news, phew! Xx

Oyster - I feel weird today too, kind of sicky

wotsit, they detected a heartbeat at 5+ wks?

6+4weeks... sorry. Yep they said she was lucky coz the bean was in the right place!