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Bring along any luck you can find ..This BESHly fred is brought to you by the magic number 3 - come on Hags, we can Foo it!

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Blue2014 · 06/03/2015 12:41

You know the drill by now ...

Rules of Entry - must be over 30, TTC no. 1 for over a year, be suitably evil and Hag like, willing to shout Cunt at the moon on regular occasions, consume extra gin when our fellow hags are unable to, and to get the nipple tassles out for any successful Hag ...

and now we've been trained by the government in our new MI5 roles, we are likely to get a little Ninja on your ass if you babydust round here ...

No admittance without a complete BESHtionnaire - see below.

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EricaJ · 01/05/2015 13:40

Rain Budapest sounds awesome!
Yeah, fed up with the announcements ... i hate being so whiny 'when is it going to be my tuuuurn?'

Fankle I really admire women that have the guts to be honest about the less lovely bits of motherhood. Hold in there hag!!

Much gin and prosecco for those of us that can have it!!

FizzyFeet · 01/05/2015 16:34

Hola, hags. Luffly to see you fankel, chezza and erica after various absences.

Quick post from me to say that I am PUPO! Two day 3 frosties on board. All went fine apart from some minor consternation about how curved my cervix/ uterus is and me nearly breaking all if GFBW's fingers as I squeezed his hand. Still a bit in disbelief that we have got this far!

FizzyFeet · 01/05/2015 16:42

'Various absences'? Sorry, not sure where that oddly formal phrase came from!

cherry glad the follow up was good, and that you've been enjoying the headspace (and the gin). How is ROCH doing?

erica argh, that does sound annoying re your summer of ivf plans. And another differ announcement and the droid to make it feel worse.

CaveMum · 01/05/2015 19:02

Fizz hurrah for PUPO!

Fankle it is so very hard at times, I remember weeks a stage where a day didn't go by without me bursting into tears over something/nothing. Be kind to yourself and do whatever you have to to get through the day. As you know I did almost 5 months solo last year and it was HARD. My only advice is "Dust never killed anyone" and "Everybody fed, nobody dead" are excellent mottos to live by.

Blue2014 · 01/05/2015 19:54

Fizz PUPO!!!! Exciting times GrinThanks

Fankle - my friends are amazing and honest about motherhood, I know it's sucky sometimes. Arm punches to you brave ol' hag.

Erica - I had hoped to be Ivfing by summer but it's also looking unlikely so me and you will still be cycle buddies ??

Chez- bloody lovely to have you back

Just came for a whinge - one of my best friends has just left her marriage for another man, learning her 4 children at the same time. She's always struggled with motherhood. I know she's having a hard time and I want to support her but all I can think is "seriously??! You get 4 that you dont even want and I can't even get 1?!"

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EricaJ · 02/05/2015 05:40

Oh hags, another announcement from a lovely friend that wasn't trying and didn't even realised until she was 8 weeks gone. Why? Why is this so easy for everyone else and so difficult for us? So depressing. I feel so sad and despondent. And what mindfuck, to feel sondown about your lovely friend's happy news.

We may start IVF in October Blue. Though I don't know how I'm going to prepare myself mentally when I feel so defeated already... Any tips, hags?

barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2015 07:52

Hi hags. I wanted to pop in and see how fizz was doing and realised you'd dropped off my 'threads I'm on' list Blush.

Fab amazing scan news, wishing you an incredibly boring pregnancy Smile.

Blue I've never had a choose and book option, I was just sent to the local hospital. Same as fizz said, we get the embryos stored for a year and then have the option of paying. Sorry about the ungrateful friend. One of the worst phrases is, 'oh you can have my kids, they're a nightmare' when someone finds out you don't have any Angry.

rain/Erica sorry about the baby bombs, they don't get any easier. Ex colleague whose first pg made me cry lots has just announced again. She's really unhealthy, smokes, drinks and is overweight. Why the fuck can she sail through two effortless and successful bfps and I can't? Angry

chez lovely to see you mate. I can be your gin buddy!! Grin I'm Angry for you that the clinic weren't more forthcoming about the spaff issue, but good to see you have a plan.

fankle sorry the BESHlet is taking the piss on the sleeping front, that's hard work.

And I finally get to the end and fizz, you're PUPO!!!!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
I am attempting to do the PUPO dance for you, but my body is not used to drinking alcohol any more, and the two small glasses of fizzy stuff last night have made me a little hangovery this morning.

Erica feel free to bat this one straight back at me, but if you feel strong enough to do the shit on your own, would it be worth looking into Mr Erica doing his contribution in advance? Then you could go ahead, and if he wasn't there on D-day (obviously with dates difficult to predict you're unlikely to know whether he will be or not) they could use one he had prepared earlier, as it were?! I know it's not the same, but I'll most probably be doing our frozen cycle on my own by the looks of it. DCW is away for 4 weeks over summer and I don't want to put it off until September.

We decided to go for the private nk cells testing. We had already ttc this cycle so can't do the biopsy as I could be pg . Next month it looks like the crucial window will be during the few days we're abroad for a wedding Angry. So we're looking at June for the biopsy. If they find elevated nk cells I'll have to take steroids for a month and then they repeat the biopsy to see if they have had an effect. They don't work for everyone and they won't give them out in pg unless it's been proved that there is a benefit.
The biopsy has to be done 7-9 days after ovulation. I start the droid 7-8 days after ovulation so this might be a bit of a problem! They can't do it once you're bleeding, but before a week is too early as your womb wouldn't be at the right stage anyway .
This cycle I ov'd on cd21/22 so that won't be producing any quality eggs so I'm now waiting to see what my LP will be this cycle so I can predict what it might be next cycle .

We're also paying for a scratch before the frozen cycle, given 2x early mc and 2x iui/ivf failures. Don't know yet whether it will be a natural or medicated cycle.

Given all these delays, I have fucked off the healthy living and am back on the booze well I'm trying, after such an absence it's taking some effort and the training. I've just signed up for my first triathlon Grin.

barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2015 07:58

Oh, and do you remember my ex friend? The one who would have been my bridesmaid who got pg with twins just after my first pg (almost tow years ago now) when we were both on clomid? The one who whinged because I didn't talk about her pregnancy when I'd just had the first miscarriage even though we were with others and it was still supposed to be a secret? The one who uninvited me to her birthday because she didn't want to be made to feel guilty for being pg and didn't want me around in case I got upset? And then announced she wasn't coming to my wedding and flounced off in a strop because I hadn't paid her enough attention? And hasn't spoken to me since? She just sent me a fb friend request?!?!?Â
Well no thanks. She is now a full time mum to one year old twins. I've had a second miscarriage and am still childless. She is the last person I want any contact with. She's been blocked, she can't try any of that nonsense again. Not even a message with an apology! Although she will definitely believe it's not her in the wrong and this is her magnanimously holding out an olive branch Angry. She is a manipulative cow and a drama queen and I have not missed her in my life!

EricaJ · 02/05/2015 10:46

Hey Barking,

Good to see you, dude!

I am absolutely considering doing this on my own. After the droid + 4 announcements in the same week = total meltdown, I am not sure I can stay in limbo for another 5 months. Let's compare notes on how to best go about it.

Everything going according to plan, we should go for a 'planning' appointment with the new consultant in around two weeks. Mr Erica is expressing many doubts about not being together for the crucial time, but after 3+ years of TTC and our morale being completely destroyed, I think we urgently need to get on with it.

Barking I am VERY weary of adults trying to build bridges via Facebook. If you are over 16, pick up the phone, woman!

barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2015 11:37

Yep, DCW is also not happy about not being there to support me, but I'm not sure I want to keep waiting. A couple of friends have already offered support/company if it goes ahead while he's away.
And I quite like the comical situation of everyone knowing he was out of the country for a month if we then are lucky enough to be announcing 3 months later Grin. It's probably a good job we're open about the ivf! Grin

It's quite common for spaff to be frozen in advance anyway to prevent performance anxiety on the day being an issue, so I would say the only consideration would be whether you would have anyone to support you if Mr Erica wasn't there, like for egg collection?

And agreed, it's not adult behaviour to make contact with a fb friend request!!

EricaJ · 02/05/2015 13:11

Ha ha! Hadn't considered the comedy value of people's faces when it dawns on them that Mr Erica would have most definitely be away at conception time. Whoops. Awkward :)

Someone would have to be the surrogate Mr Erica, that's for sure. I mean, what about the injections??

EricaJ · 02/05/2015 13:14

been away.

TheRainDrops · 03/05/2015 17:23

Wotcha hags! Turn my back for a minute and I miss a bloomin PUPO announcement! COE for fizz, when's otd? (I still don't actually know what that one stands for, I'm assuming something testing day? Or maybe obviously totally diffed, right?)

So good to see you both chez and barking, looks like with erica and blue too there's going to be lots of cycling from mid summer onwards.
The freezing staff ahead of time sounds like a pretty good workaround - hope you can get your menfolk on board.

fank lovely to see you too - I have no doubt being a new mum is just as much terror and hard bloody work as it is awesome and exciting so no need to apologise for acknowledging that! Glad to hear you're both doing well

cave that's fair enough - have you set yourself a date to call by or are you just going to wait and see how you feel about it over next few weeks?

bad are you on hols?

ignores omfgroyalbabysquee and Kirsty McTwatsopp

WE'RE GETTING A NEW CAT! We feel like enough time's passed since the untimely loss of rainycat and so we went to the rspca yesterday and found a real little beaut! Subject to home check we should have her next weekend! Original rainycat may not be quite so enthusiastic - we shall see.....

FizzyFeet · 03/05/2015 19:06

Yay for a new rainycat! Ours have been v cute today - we have all had a duvet day after a friend's wedding yesterday.

OTD is official test date, though I like your version better. It is 14 May (aaaaaaages away). I am veering between forgetting I am PUPO and mentally going OMFGIVFTWINZ!!!!!! each time I remember. I have taken the nurses' advice to eat as if I am pregnant at face value, by eating barbecue kettle chips and lucozade like some kind of orange-junk-craving differ.

EricaJ · 04/05/2015 11:13

Rainycat!! Brilliant stuff!

Fizz my friend was told to drink Lucozade to aid implantation during her (successful) IUI... So you go, hag!

Dudes, massive mood swings here. Yesterday I just cried and cried and wailed 'we'll nevert have a baybee, we are DoOMED!!!'. And today I'm 'yes, universe... we'll get there... ivf everything will happen at the right time... Ooooom'.

It's ok, at least I don't stay in the hole of despair for ever but Mr Erica is slightly alarmed :)

Blue2014 · 04/05/2015 12:10

Erica im with you but I'm currently in the down place (I'll be alright in a few hours im sure, then I will come back to read the thread properly)

But for now... Where's my baby? Where, where, where, where, WHERE?!!! I really, really, really want him/her now, I'm tired of waiting Sad

As an aside - im bored of this fred now, can we wrap it up soon? Who's next in line to fred start??

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Blue2014 · 04/05/2015 12:15

Yay for rainy cat, pets are ace.

Barking, good to see you, I fell off the Fred last year, slightly alarming when that happens isn't it? Triathlon, exciting only exciting cos I don't have to do it

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Blue2014 · 04/05/2015 12:18

Fizz oTD brings out the crazy dwarves for me, I can't seem to find a response that doesn't sound something like:

Squueeeeeeeee
Argghhhhhh
Squeeeeeee
Eeeeeeeek
Yaaaaay
Urrrrghhhh

I'm gonna stick to the squee for now ... Grin

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Blue2014 · 04/05/2015 12:19

Look Hags, post 720, seriously the Fred is almost done ...

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EricaJ · 04/05/2015 20:20

Blue when the droid got my last week, I threw the mother fuckingfucker of all tantrums, I cried and swore because why are all these stupid people (I know, these people are my friends, I am so nice!) having a million kids while we have none? Why do we have to go through infertility and miscarriages?? and declared that I could simply not wait any longer, had enough, fuck it fuck it fuck it.

Mr Erica rubbed my arm and murmured 'I know, I know' until I calmed down a bit.

So yes, it's up and down.

FizzyFeet · 04/05/2015 20:23

The last Fred I did was the one that went on forever, so I ain't doing it in case it becomes equally unlucky! Happy for someone else to go right ahead though... Grin

Blue2014 · 04/05/2015 21:05

Going on facebook for distraction DOES NOT HELP!

I realise hags smarter than me already knew this Confused

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barkingtreefrog · 05/05/2015 07:16

Blue it's been crap spectacularly shit for a few of us, this thread, but Fab got her bfp on here, didn't she? (or at least her 12 week scan, how far back does this thread go?) so it's not unlucky for all. On the basis that maybe it's only lucky for people with names beginning with F we should keep it going for the PUPO Fizzy Grin.

Erica I've had a really shit wkd. Babybombed unexpectedly when I turned up to stay at a friend's house for the wkd and she also had guests staying with two kids that she hadn't warned me about. I left Blush. I spent 3 hours walking the dog by the river on my own, just crying my eyes out and not having a clue what to do.

I started thinking maybe I was properly depressed. I really want to move house. Next door have 4 kids (2 since we started trying) and they shout at them all the time. It's not just us, neighbours on the other side are fed up of it as well. Anyway, moving to our dream house would mean using all our savings. Which would mean there was nothing left for ivf if the frozen round didn't work. It's not fucking fair. Why should I have to decide between living where I want to live and having a family? Especially when there are shit parents all over the place popping them out effortlessly Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry.

CaveMum · 05/05/2015 14:40

Sorry for the crapness that's affecting folk at the moment. Use this place to rant/rage/swear/threaten physical violence - it really does help, a bit.

Well I've done it, made my Drs appointment for next Friday. I've double checked with the clinic and my treatment (OI) is still free on the NHS in my area despite existing ESH-let. That's one saving grace.

Blue2014 · 05/05/2015 15:28

Well done Cave Smile

Barking, that is really shit about the house. It's all so pissing frustrating and unfair. The baby bombing and the horrible neighbours don't help either.

I really am sick of parents who don't seem to appreciate how lucky they are to have kids. If only some people knew how hard this is.

Barking, very good point about the fred being lucky for F's. I had gone with a theory of the Fred only having enough luck for one but we can keep it going for Fizz ... No pressure now Fizz WinkThanks

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