Toot, Toot. Calling all dirty chicks! Jump aboard the charabanc with Barry & The Berries. Destination BFP" (thread 26)

[happylass]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

Current passengers:

Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 2 failed ICSIs. Time to defrost the spare.
Beaky 35, ttc coming up 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1x long protocol ivf cancelled due to poor response. Awaiting follow up with FC and possibly short protocol IVF next.
Minx, 34, both tubes blocked, 1 buried ovary, appointment with consultant early March.
Nolly, 33, TTC 2.5 years, BFP Christmas Eve, MC New Years Eve. Awaiting "spontaneous conception" before IVF starts, August 2015.
Wild 40 - TTC for three years. IVF double-stimms freeze all embryos cycle started in February - due to complete May/June.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC 3.5 years, unexplained. Cycle 1 chemical pregnancy, cycle 2 abandoned due to cyst, cycle 3 failed. Plan thrombotic profile, scratch and short protocol.
Lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 2011, unexplained, two IVF cycles in 2014, both bfns, waiting for lap&dye and results of numerous bloods, aiming for one last IVF cycle in the summer.
Tigerdog, 34 ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. Starting ivf in March.
Gillster, 40, TTC since Feb 2012. Had IVF in Feb 14 and had 6 one cell embies frozen due to polyp. Cancelled FET cycles in Sept 14 and Dec 14 due to more polyps. Awaiting hysteroscopy before commencing natural cycle FET. Hoping to be at least PUPO on the 4th attempt!
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Kuma - 40. TTC 2 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and two cancelled IVFs Nov and Dec 14 due to poor blood results. Hoping for another try at natural cycle IVF end of Jan.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. BFP Feb '15

Oh, happy that stinks. This might sound stupid but it's almost worse than being told you won't get any help at all - at least then you'd start making alternative plans a lot sooner.

kuma how's it going?

barking great news on those follies and your palace!! Will keep FX for a Saturday EC for you

beaky house buying is so stressful, hope things work out for you.

welcome welcome phe and pon, sorry you're here but this is a fantastic supportive thread full of lovely friendly ladies, as you're already discovering. So, much as I love Wales (my Dad is from Cardiff) it sounds like a nightmare place to be in our shoes. And having consultants say things like 'your eggs are only getting older' doesn't help (like we don't know that!!!)
What a body blow happy - pretty appalling state of affairs.

Maybe we should get this charabanc on a route to Prague? We can all go together!

Grrr for our welsh contingent! Un-bloody-believable happy. Has this not hit the press at all?! Unfortunately my experience of working with the NHS in Wales leads me to expect this kind of thing. It is so bloody unfair...

Great news barking sounds as though all is progressing well.

I'm also one for a trip to Prague in the summer if our only funded ivf doesn't work. Although I am working very hard on being positive, I need a decent back up plan as a coping mechanism.

Lucky and wishes on a for us all eh.

Well, I'm having a pedicure as I don't want to turn up to a new yoga studio with manky feet later this week . Not working another 60 hour week this week, instead am being nice to myself.

Barking not stupid at all. It's a total head fuck. We spent almost a year going to and from our local hospital before we could even get the IVF referral. I wouldn't have bothered if I'd known this was what would happen. We could have gone private 2 years ago.
Tiger save me a space on that charabanc, destination Prague!!!

Hey, Happy thanks for letting me know how you are getting on, but god its depressing to hear.

However, today I contacted the clinic in Prague and I shall let you all know what happens next. I feel a bit more positive about having taken that step. I too am restricted by term dates but because I work at a college my hols start at the beginning of July and luckily my husband has time off too then. My "plan/idea/dream" would be treatment then.

I also contacted my gynae consultant secretary today to arrange an appointment to see about getting my egg reserves checked. If I haven't heard within the month I'll get that done privately at a local clinic.

Then I went on eBay brought dozens of ovulation strips and marked out days on the calendar (the husband was grinning at that stage ;-) ) so my afternoon did improve as I feel a bit more pro active about it all.

Pon I reckon you should get a formal complaint in. That's such appalling treatment. Fx Prague works out for you.

Happy that is also appalling. I can't believe they are in such a state.

Tiger has MrT found anything to enable a move yet? I'd love a pedicure, was thinking If need one soon now it's not quite as cold as it was!

Nolly 3 complaints and some job applications?? You looking for a new job?

Barking great news on your follies. Remember they grow around 2mm per day so you may well be ready for EC on saturday! Fx!!

Waiting to hear about the house, keeping my fx! love the also!

Hello Phe and Pon - welcome, sorry you find yourself here - on the upside we have experts on all topics related to TTC.

The situation in Wales sounds pretty dire, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time of it, as if things weren't bad enough already.

Hi Gill, Happy and Rain - I'm OK, feeling a bit stressed, I guess the 'out of control' things is putting my head out a bit. I feel like I've spent hours and hours at work and got nothing useful done, only to come home and do chores. Lord knows how I'll during the 2ww - if I get that far. First of the series of scans in on Thursday, hopefully that will show a follicle, and not that the pill has shut my ovaries down forever. I guess EC will be in around a week if I am ready to ovulate around day 12-14 which I would in a normal cycle. I've been struggling to get DH not to schedule a load of things to do next week, his approach to IVF seems to be to try to totally ignore that its happening!

Barking - glad to hear your scan went OK, 3 lead follicles sounds good and I'm sure some of the others will catch up over the next few days. I'll keep my fingers crossed and get the pompoms waving for a Saturday EC.

Hi Pip - did I see your name in the mumsnet recommends email last week! A famous berry

Tiger - I hope your toes are looking pretty - I've not braved a pedicure for a few months, I'm just not ready to go out of the house in flip flops!

Beaky - sending you good vibes for the house....

May I just say I'm half Irish so I feel entitled to say that. May the luck of the Irish rain down on us all!

Phe that is a lot of pregnant colleagues to contend with. Sounds like you have been going through some dark times TTC-wise. Fingers crossed for you for the last week of your 2ww.

Phe, Pont and Happy - I'm shocked at the nonsense you've had to go through with the NHS. I totally agree that being pushed from pillar to post leaves you in limbo for far too long, when you could be making better decisions for yourself. It really is very highhanded to mess with people's lives like that on such an important issue as having a baby. I can see why Prague is beckoning.

Barking great news on the follies. It must be a relief to know that the drugs are working.

Kuma this sounds like a tense week for you while you wait to hear whether you are in with a chance this month. I'm sure all will be well, but it will be a weight off your mind once ovulation is confirmed.

Beaky are you still in with a shot at the house? I hope so.

Tiger I really hope that the people in your yoga class appreciated your prettified feet!

wild you'd think, wouldn't you?! But the relief at seeing the follies didn't last long, it quickly turned into concern that they'd all be big enough in time, and getting worried that they wouldn't fertilise, we wouldn't get enough to freeze meaning this really is our only chance, or that none of them would make it back into me....
On a more positive note, it might not be a cat on the lap thing but my dog, for the first time ever, is choosing to come and snuggle up to me rather than DH! DH is really rather upset about it, but it's been 3 evenings now where we've been sat on separate couches and the dog has come to snuggle on my couch . And last night he had his head on my knee .

kuma fingers crossed for Thursday. I hear you on the DH not exactly demonstrating through actions that IVF is the priority right now!

Barking sorry to be the bearer of bad new but the worrying never stops with IVF! Once you're over one hurdle it's on to the next! I thought the needles and EC would be the hardest but but I personally found the mental aspect far more challenging. All I can advise is be kind to yourself, lots of treats and make life as easy as possible for yourself over the next few weeks. And as always the Berries are here when you need us. Take care

Don't worry happy I was under no illusions there!!!! The hypnosis and the acupuncture are really helping with the mental aspect. Although I can't stop the pondering I'm actually less stressed about this ivf than I was through either of the iui cycles. Obviously this could all change as it's still early days yet, but so far so good relatively speaking, as it were

I've started spotting, got some cramps too. Think it's AF. I'm day 10 after a 3dt on 9th March - is it too late to be implantation? Im losing my mind x

It's not over Phe, neither rules out a bfp, hang on in there .

Phe welcome to the thread. Spotting at any point post transfer is fairly common, pretty much everyone who has been through gas had spotting at various points and some have gone on to have BFPs.

I am so dismayed at the service the Welsh contingent are receiving! This whole thing just stinks. The only think it might be worth looking into is referral to another clinic. Patient choice.....

CD36 for me and no sign of AF......not pg but very frustrated as want to book in for my scratch (that still makes me feel unwel thinking about it). Also awaiting news on my bloods but hoping to hear later this week.

Barking good news on the follies, will keep everything crossed for you. The mental side of IVF is definitely the hardest. I have to say the mindfulness app that I am using helps (although I am still a little anxious).

Kuma good luck for Thursday

Could I please just ask what AF and BFP stands for? Is CD "cycle day" or something else and Phe what do you mean when you say "I'm day 10 after a 3dt on 9th March "? Thanks!

Thanks hampshire I threatened a letter of complaint and asking for a referral to another clinic but I was so near to the top it wasn't worth doing - to those just starting out it may be. Also happy if it's the clinic in the Heath there were three consultants in over the last few weeks, d'angelo, grace and Zac (sorry, full names not my strong point) so I don't know how they can tell you consultants are off sick. I also was told a similar story myself when I was querying the wait - is it genuine or a load of old bull? Worth writing and asking!!

Thanks all for reassurance about the spotting, I'm hanging on in there by a thread!

pont I'm no expert and lots of the acronyms flu us me but AF IS Aunty Flo, your period. BFP is big fat positive - pregnancy test, CD is cycle day.

I had a an egg/embryo transferred back in 3 days after it was initially removed and fertilised, you have to wait 14 days after your transfer date to do a pregnancy test, I'm only 10 days at the moment so too early to get a reliable test xx

Flummox that was supposed to say, not flu x

ah thanks for that phe, that makes sense now. And wow! good luck I hope its the result you want x

Phe fx for you, spotting does seem to be very common with any fertility treatment.

Kuma good luck for your first scan tomorrow.

Barking good luck for your scan tomorrow too!

HB when will you cycle next? I assume you get your bloods and then have a follow up?

tiger roughly when do you start stabbing? I did buserelin too but Merional rather than menopur. How are you feeling about it all now?

I had a dream last night that my follow up went really badly and woke up crying also no house news yet, think it will go to best/final offers. Boo!

Anyway more luck of the Irish for all

We went to look at a couple of houses tonight beaky, one we really liked but then we walked back through our own door and realised we loved our house more....

Phe - as the others have said, spotting happens pretty often and for the most part it is impossible to tell what it means. Hang on in there and go easy on yourself. Box sets have been mentioned as a good way to distract yourself during the 2ww. Maybe give that a try -short of gin-

Oh no Beaky you poor thing waking up in tears. I guess you are under a fair bit of strain what with the TTC plan having to be changed and the house buying thing. Again, I would say < puts on serious face> that gin is your friend. Or, more sensibly, have you tried any of the hypnotherapy /relaxation tapes? That might work.

Kuma and Barking thinking of you for tomorrow. Lots of luck.

Oo box sets! I recommend orange is the new black to anyone who hasn't seen it, it's amazing.

Wild I love gin too I do relaxation hypno stuff, (am quite into my woo) but this was really unexpected. Will be cranking the woo up a notch between now and the appointment though! How are you feeling now?

Barking are you thinking of moving? Will be checking in for yours and Kumas news tomorrow, good luck

Gill is it your op soon? Sorry I can't remember the date.

If anyone has Netflix then I recommend Unbreakable Kimmy Schmit.

Good luck for your scans today Barking and Kuma and hope your DHs get their priorities right!

Hysteroscopy is Monday Beaky so not too long now (as long as AF doesn't put in an early appearance).

It's my birthday today - 41! How you hell did that happen? Not massively excited about it as you can imagine. Off to work then DH is taking me out for dinner tonight.