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TTC and still breastfeeding? You're not alone! Thread# 2

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peardrop2 · 21/02/2015 20:46

Marking my place...hoping I won't be here for long Wine

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peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 15:26

Awww Mum I love seeing the newborns too! Wasn't it just a horrible shock not to be surrounded by lovely supportive midwifes though?! I didn't see anyone until it came to the pushing time and by then I had a epidural and was totally out of it. Awful experience. Hoping to change it next time.

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peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 15:28

Ava I got a pain in my uterus area about 12dpo that took my breathe away in the shower when I was pregnant with DS. However, these last few months my body has really tricked me and did similar things so I don't want to get your hopes up Hmm

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AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 15:32

Oh my god, Pear - my labour experience sounds a lot like yours! My water broke on the Friday evening, hospital advised I go it just to get checked over, at hospital my BP was high (as I hate hospitals, hence being kept in for almost a week!) so they kept me in and as my contractions weren't showing up in their stupid monitor they didn't believe I was in labour! I was kept on a pre- labour ward and so as not to scare the other ladies I quietly suffered from 6am - 4pm on the Saturday. I felt so isolated and alone. I kept buzzing for the midwife/pain relief but no one believed me until I threw up on one of the senior midwives and said I needed to push Blush and DD arrived at 4.26pm after less than 30 mins pushing in the actual delivery room and no pain relief. They'd sent DH home earlier in the day and he only managed to witness the birth by a hair's breadth! Shock I'm going to be much more vocal and less polite next time Wink x

MarysPrayer · 08/03/2015 15:35

ava when I was pregnant with dd I had awful cramping about 2 days after my bfp (so about 15dpo). It was quite scary as I'd had no symptoms whatsoever until then. There was absolutely no problems though.

My birth experience was awful too. Everything was progressing fine when the mw told me I was 10cm and ready to push. 2 hours later and the obstetrician declared me 7cm with a lip on my cervix, (which I later found out could have been caused by pushing while not dilated) The rest is a horrible partially blocked out nightmare of drips, monitors, failed epidurals and a theatre delivery resulting in dd spending her first 12 hours in scbu. Where they ff her Sad

I will not let any of that happen again.

AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 15:38

I have no sticks here - did I mention I have had a minor addiction to them so I cut myself off cold turkey?! Blush I'm not sure if our local shop would sell them and my parents have just arrived so I can't discreetly ask dh to pop out and buy one further afield - think shops will be closing soon anyway and I've missed fmu now... Hmm...x

AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 15:39

Oh gosh, Mary, sounds awful Flowers

Pain has subsided, now I feel like I made a drama over possibly nothing Blush

peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 15:48

Ava - OMG that is shocking! I was sitting on my couch on sat night watching TV. Went to go to bed and spotted the tiniest wet patch on my pjamamas but thought it was just cm at the time. Monday came and I started having very mild contractions whilst being out and about. That night contractions came more and at 1am I realised maybe that wet patch on Saturday was my waters breaking. I then had a show and rang up hospital. I arrived at hospital at 3am only to be "interviewed" by a junior who didn't speak a word of English. I finally was seen by a midwife and doctor come Tuesday and they checked me over 3x but couldn't decide if my waters had broken. Contractions got stronger all day. They kept telling me they were busy but would move me soon. I too slept in the "pre labour ward" Tuesday night. I demanded DH stayed with me as we were told I would be moved in the night. Neither of us had slept for 48hrs. I was given pethidine in very early hours so I could get 2hrs sleep. Wednesday morning came. I was walking around the hospital with very strong contraction, then came back to finally be put on drip. Went to loo with drip and my waters gushed everywhere. I was so mortified because of the mess in the toilet and I didn't know what to do with midwife standing outside. I remember shouting to her that I've tried to clean it up Blush Then I was abandoned again. Then because I was so scared and didn't know how much worse it would get. how long I had or what stage I was at I asked for an epidural and they gave me more pethidine. I was completely out of it. A horrible horrible feeling. Pushed for 4 hours. DS got stuck. Had ventouse and then had a bad tear that needed surgery so I was whisked to surgery after he was born. I've heard worse though. At least my aftercare was amazing, Sad that is what got me through.

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peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 15:52

Ava - I'm a bit confused because on the stats board it says BFP due 8th March for you. Is AF not due today? Definitely hold out until AF is due. I used to say POAS but I also will be holding out this month, well trying very very hard to hold out!!

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peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 15:53

Mary - that is horrible poor you Hmm Does your hospital have a listening service? I've just contacted mine because I want to see my notes and prepare for next time.

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auroraboringalis · 08/03/2015 16:06

Gosh girls so sorry you had these awful rxperiences. I was so lucky to have DC at home and birth pool with midwives. No pain relief but it was very quick by all accounts and dh and midwife and cat very supportive. I hope all your next DC will be born without this abandonment you all experienced before. I can only imagine how terrible it would have been! Flowers

spekulatius · 08/03/2015 17:21

Ladies, can I ask another question? Think I've started a period today after not having one in february. If we dtd every day once that finished for 1 to 2 months surely I must get pregnant?

Mumof1sofar · 08/03/2015 17:32

So sorry to hear these terrible birth stories ladies. My birth experience was awful too - dd was back to back & I was v slow to dilate. Never known pain like it. I eventually had an epidural & she ended up having to be dragged out of me with forceps - 35 stitches & 5 days in hospital to recover! Ugh awful! I couldn't even change her nappy for the first couple of days as I couldn't move! Let's hope our next births are much better Smile

AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 17:35

We'll, AF arrived... Gutted is not the word... The pain earlier must've been due to that, another way my body has changed since AF returned, I used to be so in tune... Sad

Mumof1sofar · 08/03/2015 17:36

Oh no Ava, sorry the witch got you. Hope you've got some chocolate at home x

Mumof1sofar · 08/03/2015 17:37

Spek if your periods are irregular it may be worth giving ov sticks a whirl so you can see when you ovulate.

spekulatius · 08/03/2015 17:43

I did try ovulation indicator sticks but I don't think I understand how they work. They are only positive on the day of ovulation, aren't they? So I'd have to try every single day?

Mumof1sofar · 08/03/2015 17:53

I'm not the best person to ask as I'm not using them atm, but I used cheapy ones in the past & had to poas every day for those.

auroraboringalis · 08/03/2015 18:36

So much for staying away from mn for a few days. Blush
ava I am so sorry! I know how it feels! Flowers
spek yes. Dh and I decides it was worth the money for the first two months so that we could maximize chances as we are running out of time. So I poas everyday from about 8dpo at around 2pm and then once I started getting a line showing (indicating slight increase in levels) I started poas twice a day (11am-12pm and 7-8pm) to make sure I didn't miss the surge until I had a positive. Then carried on once a day for about three days after just be make sure it tallied with the surge. Regardless of my short lp messing it all up, I still feel it is well invested as ovulation appears erratic at the moment and my ewcm appears at non-ov times too. If your budget can stretch to it for a month or two, try it. I used ic as well, do it isn't as dear as the fancy branded ones.

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AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 19:45

Hi Ruth, no I'm in Wales, sorry to hear you had a similar experience Flowers I tore quite badly and the midwife did such a hash of my sutures they had to be removed a few days later by my GP and a nurse Shock, as there was no way they'd have dissolved on their own. My sis unfortunately had a crappy experience at the same hospital recently (chose that one as, although it was out of our county, she did consider it to be the best out of all the options Hmm) it's such a shame that something that special can be marred by the 'proffesionals' ... Sad

I'm getting the opks you suggested to Spek from amazon now....

Aurora, your birth experience is my ideal - I'd have loved nothing more than to be in a pool in hospital (or at home with DH and my cats Grin for support would have been even better) but that plan was vetoed when my BP was raised ( I did tell them that a calming environment would actually lower it! but they couldn't allow it - as soon as I got home it was back to normal) and as a result, I've been told I won't ever be allowed to birth in a pool Sad

peardrop2 · 08/03/2015 20:50

Oh Ava Hmm So sorry AF arrived. Well done for not wasting money on sticks!! You know that you can say no to the hospital and have a home birth...you just have to be strong and determined to stick to your right to choose. The right home birth team would support you I'm sure. Don't let them fool you with their scary rules before ruling every option out Wink

Sadly I am relieved to hear others feel OBEM is unrealistic!! As much as I love the programme it should be banned! I would really like to see a more realistic programme that reflects what we've experienced with the NHS...that would be the perfect new contraception for this country Wink

So who's next then? Mary and Mumofone and then me. We've got the 2ww to get through first!

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MarysPrayer · 08/03/2015 20:57

So sorry ava. Stay positive Flowers

I feel really sad, but also angered, by your negative birth experiences. Fear magnifies our perception of pain. Imo, that simple fact is responsible for so many traumatic births. I would have loved a home birth but dh would have been too scared. Our local hospital maternity dept has since closed (that may have outed me, but who cares!) so we will now would have to travel much further. So it probably means a home birth is out of the question next time but at least it means I can have a fresh start, and hopefully a better experience at a different hospital.

AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 21:39

Thanks Pear, no, I wasn't aware that I still had an option Flowers But I know that my maternal guilt would dictate that, should they say my dc would be in danger if my BP rose again, and at home I wouldn't have the necessary medical assistance blah blah blah, I'd be bamboozled into a hospital birth again. My former GP even said that, if at any point my BP started to rise in a future pg I'd be hospitalised straight away - which hasn't helped at all Hmm I know they have a duty of care, but it's the stress of hospitals that raises my BP - vicious circle Hmm I've got a new GP since we moved to be closer to my folks just over a year ago, so I hope they are more understanding Blush

Mumof1sofar · 08/03/2015 21:52

Mary when are you testing? I'll test on 23rd but not feeling too positive atm as this is my first cycle.

AvaAmulet · 08/03/2015 21:54

Thanks Mary, I am still surprisingly positive, after the initial slump I felt earlier today.

My mother, bless her, had tackled my mountain of ironing by the time I returned from bf'ing DD earlier, so I didn't have to face that after AF turned up Wink not that she knew anything about that - only my sis and DH in RL know we are ttc. And as sad as I felt initially, I am definitely counting my blessings Smile

We've just had a family movie night with The Croods and treats, and, sat there with DD, DH and my 2 cats I already feel so blessed to have what I have. Another amazing dc would be a bonus, and I'm sure it will happen for us, it's just a matter of when. I'm thinking I should be pg by May / June as this is my silly deadline, and I've never missed a deadline in my life Wink

If it doesn't happen by then though, well, I have a very happy, clever DD who gets to spend some more undivided time with us until she's a big sister Grin

Cue my many questions and random musings over the coming months if I'm to go back to trying to make sense of my opks though, sorry in advance Wink

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